NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

[Jimbone]

Don't even make me tell you about the time I was in a heated gun battle in a Rio favela.

[Duchess]

Paulistano, did you go to Carnival?

[Paulistano]

Don't even make me tell you about the time I was in a heated gun battle in a Rio favela.

[Paulistano]

Paulistano, did you go to Carnival?

I did not to go the real deal this year...but I took my kid to an afternoon party at a local sports club, it was all very tame.

A few years ago it was great when I was in Parintins (wife's home town in the state of Amazonas).





Did you / do you have carnival?

[BlueTiki]

1) That is not what I said, I credited their spirit in tough circumstances.
2) Thanks for making up a load of complete bollocks.

1.) Nah. You credited their display of outward physical characteristics . . . "happy and friendly". Again . . . It's a "grin and bear it" attitude to those who control their future. Our niggers and white trash welfare rats are vocal motherfuckers. I credit the First Amendment, their inherent laziness and sense of entitlement . . . not their spirit.

2.) Show me where.

You keep forgetting to explain the whole "our language" bit.

I believe I've explained my confusion several times and still no answer.

That ain't bollocks.

[Duchess]

That is a kickass dragon float!

We don't have the kind of Carnival that you would be accustomed too. I think Mardi Gras in New Orleans would be the closet thing to it.

[HairOfTheDog]

I didn't get the "language on loan" reference/concept either.

Is Portuguese on loan to Brazil? Is Spanish on loan to Mexico?

[Jimbone]

Serious.

Favelas are dangerous places.

[BlueTiki]

I didn't get the "language on loan" reference either.

Must be a "join date" thing.

My spirit is strong but my face is frowny.

[ramseycat]

I think I'm probably more of a judgmental bitch rather than a racist pig.

You're not judgmental.

[Paulistano]

I didn't get the "language on loan" reference/concept either.

Is Portuguese on loan to Brazil? Is Spanish on loan to Mexico?

In a way, yes it is. I embrace linguistic diversity, but don't find myself being as generously welcoming when my English gets corrected into American English, and when I use software where the language option is American and there is no British English option - yeah, that does piss me off.

The interesting point about Spanish is that its most purest form is actually in Columbia and Mexico and not Spain.

Serious.

Favelas are dangerous places.

Yes, I realise they can be. Have you actually been into one though?

[HairOfTheDog]

I didn't get the "language on loan" reference/concept either.

Is Portuguese on loan to Brazil? Is Spanish on loan to Mexico?

In a way, yes it is. I embrace linguistic diversity, but don't find myself being as generously welcoming when my English gets corrected into American English, and when I use software where the language option is American and there is no British English option - yeah, that does piss me off.

Are there still software programs which don't have both language setting options? That surprises me.

The interesting point about Spanish is that its most purest form is actually in Columbia and Mexico and not Spain.

It is indeed an interesting opinion; one with which I'm almost certain the people of the Castile region in Spain and linguistic scholars would disagree.

When I worked in translation and localization, Castilian Spanish was universally considered the root of the modern Spanish language, which would make it the “most purest” by default. I don’t think the history of language has since been re-written. For me, "language purity" is meaningless though. In my opinion, dialects (like the many between and within Spain and Colombia and Mexico...) will naturally develop due to geographic and cultural differences. Efficiency in communication is where it's really at, as far as I'm concerned.

I assume that you’re British by the implication of the “on loan” statement. But, I didn’t realize that the definition of “loan” differs between British English and American English. In American English, a loan is something that will be returned after temporary use, which of course doesn’t apply to the subject of language in any context. I was also unaware that “Colombia” was spelled differently in British English. Of course, I’m assuming that your post was in reference to Spanish spoken in the South American country, rather than Spanish spoken in the Columbia district of the US.

I’m not a spelling or grammar Nazi, Paulistano, and I make plenty of linguistic mistakes. I’m just having fun with you since you so boldly implied ownership of the English language.

[Paulistano]

Are there still software programs which don't have both language setting options? That surprises me.

Indeed, much to my dismay there are. The genius software houses can write a layer in Mandarin and Arabic, but seem to overlook the world's internationally adopted language. English, based upon British English turned international English.

It is indeed an interesting opinion; one with which I'm almost certain the people of the Castile region in Spain and linguistic scholars would disagree.

When I worked in translation and localization, Castilian Spanish was universally considered the root of the modern Spanish language, which would make it the “most purest” by default. I don’t think the history of language has since been re-written. For me, "language purity" is meaningless though. In my opinion, dialects (like the many between and within Spain and Colombia and Mexico...) will naturally develop due to geographic and cultural differences. Efficiency in communication is where it's really at, as far as I'm concerned.

I assume that you’re British by the implication of the “on loan” statement. But, I didn’t realize that the definition of “loan” differs between British English and American English. In American English, a loan is something that will be returned after temporary use, which of course doesn’t apply to the subject of language in any context. I was also unaware that “Colombia” was spelled differently in British English. Of course, I’m assuming that your post was in reference to Spanish spoken in the South American country, rather than Spanish spoken in the Columbia district of the US.

I’m not a spelling or grammar Nazi, Paulistano, and I make plenty of linguistic mistakes. I’m just having fun with you since you so boldly implied ownership of the English language.

Indeed, I retain ownership of all things which allow others the use of, even if those said users and joint custodians are indeed cousins.

With regards to the loan definition, this is a tricky one - perhaps we could draw parallels to the US national debt, there is a redemption / maturity date on US government federal bonds, but in reality they are do not redeem as they truncate or funge into other securities - assuming that the AAA status is not adversely affected and liquidity.

Indeed, the Latin American country, not the US district of. In fact, I am not a Spanish speaker - I understand a lot of it because of its similarity to Portuguese. I have been told frequently by fluent speakers all over the world that they consider Bogota as the place where the clearest, purest form is spoken.

I am sure the Spanish would disagree, but then again they pronounce "c" as "th" all walking around with pretend lisps because of some idiot King a few hundred years ago.

I love Spain, and like Spanish people. But they speak far too quickly to be taken seriously.

[HairOfTheDog]

Well, I think we bloody Americans are gonna keep the language, with our improvements in spelling and vocabulary to boot!. Consider that loan defaulted.

I'd also like to keep the muffins and perhaps the bull terriers.

But, don't worry. I doubt that we'll try to snag your royalty, gourmet cuisine, paparazzi, or the citizenship of Mr. Morgan. We're not that greedy.

[Paulistano]

Well, I think we bloody Americans are gonna keep the language, with our improvements in spelling and vocabulary to boot!. Consider that loan defaulted.

I'd also like to keep the muffins and perhaps the bull terriers.

But, don't worry. I doubt that we'll try to snag your royalty, gourmet cuisine, paparazzi, or the citizenship of Mr. Morgan. We're not that greedy.

Indeed, you cannot give the loan back with reckless Zs instead of the correct Ss in their places.

Muffins - I assume you mean scones..?

As for the rest, you already pay for our Queen, we do not have a cuisine (outside of London), the press are scum - and that includes Piers Moron!

[HairOfTheDog]

Muffins - I assume you mean scones..?

It was just a play on words: English language, English Muffins, English Bull Terriers... I do like an occasional eggs benedict though and bull dogs are good too.

As for the rest, you already pay for our Queen, we do not have a cuisine (outside of London), the press are scum - and that includes Piers Moron!

How do we pay for your Queen?

Because we're a generous lot, we will also not attempt to steal your other national treasures, namely Gary Glitter and Russell Brand. Unless you wanna make a trade. You get the entire Kardashian family (including Kanye West and Bruce Jenner) and we'll take Mr. Brand. Deal?

P.s. Spain is my favorite country to visit, though I've only really explored Madrid and Barcelona (but seen a lot of the land getting there on Eurail). I take the Spanish very seriously in matters of art, food, love, and attitude.

[Jimbone]

Yes, I realise they can be. Have you actually been into one though?

More than one.

[Paulistano]

It was just a play on words: English language, English Muffins, English Bull Terriers... I do like an occasional eggs benedict though and bull dogs are good too.

How do we pay for your Queen?

The tourists alone from the US probably pay for her to have 156 servants.

Personally I dislike bulldogs, always associated muffins with the US - blueberry ones especially, and I thought that Eggs Benedict was French!

Because we're a generous lot, we will also not attempt to steal your other national treasures, namely Gary Glitter and Russell Brand. Unless you wanna make a trade. You get the entire Kardashian family (including Kanye West and Bruce Jenner) and we'll take Mr. Brand. Deal?

P.s. Spain is my favorite country to visit, though I've only really explored Madrid and Barcelona (but seen a lot of the land getting there on Eurail). I take the Spanish very seriously in matters of art, food, love, and attitude.

I quite like Mr. Brand, his flavour of intellectual humour / complete lunatic amuses me. You cannot have him, I also quite like Mr. Ramsay - or as you guys call him, Chef Ramsey. He is a good lad.

I think Spain is the most visited country on the planet - it is just a shame that most of the visitors are uneducated idiot Brits and Germans and not cultured people like yourself. I would like to spend some time in Northern Spain and get into the culture and language - and food of course.

More than one.

Where, if you don't mind my interest?

[Jimbone]

Where, if you don't mind my interest?

Rio and São Paulo.

[HairOfTheDog]

...always associated muffins with the US - blueberry ones especially, and I thought that Eggs Benedict was French!

I don't know much about food origins, but I believe that England gets credit for the "English muffin" and the US gets credit for using the English muffin to create "eggs benedict" (named after one of two men with the surname "Benedict"; that's what I've read anyway).

I think Spain is the most visited country on the planet - it is just a shame that most of the visitors are uneducated idiot Brits and Germans and not cultured people like yourself. I would like to spend some time in Northern Spain and get into the culture and language - and food of course.

While I don't believe France owns the invention of eggs benedict, it does own the title of most visited country in the world. I think that the US, China and Italy are next in terms of most-visited, with Spain rounding out the top 5 (or Spain may have exceeded Italy in the last couple of years - it's pretty close between them, IIRC).

Exploring Northern Spain sounds like a dream. I hope you get to do it. I've always really wanted to visit Cuba, but US/Cuban relations make that dream impossible for me - someday, maybe. I have a few scuba-diving friends in Germany who've dived and explored Cuba for extended holidays; they love it (and love to rub it in too - bastards).