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(02-18-2011, 02:10 AM)shitstorm Wrote: I think the killer/s may have been lying in wait, too. I'll reiterate - it was premeditated murder. First degree, not second. Not incidental to a robbery.
I think you might be right. Since "lots of people" (per Maytee) knew about the key in the garage, I think it IS possible, the perps were already in the house. Johnny & Lisa come in, she heads to change clothes, then the perps come out....BUT it seems odd they'd show themselves while JC's on the phone, don't you think ???
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(02-18-2011, 12:55 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: At this point in time, we administrators have concluded, based on Mystery Girls's answers, she did everything in her power to get to the bottom of the reason for Johnny and Lisa failing to respond to her texting and calling and I doubt she is a suspect or person of interest.
This bugs the shit out of me. No one who claims an interest in justice, should take to defending a potential suspect based upon a he said - she said. She should change the name to "Justice for TW and friends."
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(02-18-2011, 02:16 AM)allieayy Wrote: (02-18-2011, 02:04 AM)jash Wrote: Quote:kitty1 Wrote:
(Today 12:00 AM)kfran Wrote:
(Yesterday 11:53 PM)Jane Wrote:
(Yesterday 11:50 PM)kfran Wrote:
(Yesterday 11:46 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
No. Nothing has been confirmed beyond what was released right at the beginning. Cause of death - asphyxiation.
So we don't know for sure if LS died from the plastic bag over her head. It could have been that she was choked to death, possibly using the pants.
the coroner stated death by asphyixiation (sp?)
Jane, yes that is what the coroner stated. But asphyxiation is lack of oxygen, it can be from smothering or choking or strangulation. I'm trying to find a reason for the damn pants being under her head.
she was found with only her work pants on. i think that she was planning on changing into those pants to go out when she heard commotion and ran out to see what was going on.
makes sense to me.
We have to put several things to rest and not keep bringing up things that are false.
Death was due to asphyxiation due to bags over head per coroner. If she was strangled, death would have been asphyxiation due to strangulation of something like that. Strangulation would have ligature marks, bruising around throat, or the telltale hyoid bone being broken. Coroner definitely said she was asphyxiationwith bag, which could be used interchangeably with the work smothered.
Lisa's uncle has stated bluntly that Lisa was still wearing her uniform. he did not say just her pants. Or that her top was off. Her uniform consisted of a TGIF polo (I think they are red and black here, or red or black striped. Pants are black I believe. Lisa's uncle made a point of saying that she was still wearing her uniform and that's why he thinks they were killed shortly after arriving home cuz she didn't have time to change out of it. He didn't say she was in the process of changing, he said she was wearing her uniform..not half her uniform. I think we can take that as fact and stop all this supposition that MAYTEE brought into the mix by saying she didn't have a top on. Her uncle (who would know) says she was clothed.
personally, I think the guys walked right in behind them when they got home...or were already in the house waiting.
as i said before. lisa's uncle said she was still in her uniform. this could mean she was still in her uniform WHEN THEY GOT THERE. not WHEN THEY LEFT.
if her uniform, or part of it, was found nearby her body, he would know she was still in her uniform when they came in.
and i have personal reason to believe that what i just stated is the case.
also, if this was my niece, i wouldnt want the world to know she was half naked or naked when she was found either. so i wouldnt clarify.
good points made Jash! & allieayy
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(02-18-2011, 01:09 PM)allieayy Wrote: (02-18-2011, 12:28 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote: this may also be insignificant but i found it interesting. there was a girl that posted to the RIP johnny site on wednesday that said "i need you here. it was supposed to be us in the future. i love u. this song describes how i feel. i'll never be the same. i lost my other half." it could be NOTHING (just an old girlfriend remembering someone important to her)... but it made me consider the possibility that LS and JC didn't have the good relationship that has been claimed by a few people. maybe he wasn't a one woman man? could meet with the possibility of a "jealousy" motive. we haven't really heard or talked about that as a possibility... was JC a "faithful" boyfriend? anyone know?
i know that girl, i met her last week actually. she referred to johnny as "her first love"
needless to say she was upset when i brought the topic up (not knowing who she was) and didnt want to talk much about it.
Just imagine the ruminations in "SM"s mind thinking what if I was there when all this happened? That email i received yesterday could have been an invitation to come over to the Straub house.
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(02-18-2011, 12:29 PM)trixie Wrote: (02-18-2011, 09:38 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: NOTICE TO OWNER OF JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY FACEBOOK PAGE:
ALL POSTS IN MY CRIME FORUM ARE COPYRIGHTED. reproduce them without attribution at your own risk.
i have complained to Facebook, step #1.
Thank you LC~she wants to talk about what people post bout the couple but hey thats their opinion~ im not sayin I agree with every here but I am open minded and would like to hear all angels of this story~ People here r NOT bashing JC and LS they r stating facts as they know it~SHE NEEDS TO GET A LIFE!
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(02-18-2011, 12:34 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: (02-18-2011, 12:29 PM)trixie Wrote: (02-18-2011, 09:38 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: NOTICE TO OWNER OF JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY FACEBOOK PAGE:
ALL POSTS IN MY CRIME FORUM ARE COPYRIGHTED. reproduce them without attribution at your own risk.
i have complained to Facebook, step #1.
Did anyone read all those answers she has there by TW? It looks like she took them from here and even EDITED some of them...OMG!
RIGHT! I totally agree with U east coast!
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LOL PEOPLE ARE BANNING THEMSELVES!!
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I see everyone asking for the link that the girl in question answers questions! Why would anyone want to read anything that bashes two deceased people? I just asked u for the link to read her answers and u deleted that? Why? Why have this p...age if your going to delete everything people say? I thought thats what this is for? To keep updated correct? I see deleting the ignorant shit but u delete the important shit too! Why ask the girl all them questions then turn around and delete her answers? Makes no sense! Dont worry about banning me because im going to ban myself! Have fun with this crap! Its n0t helping any0ne BTW!See More
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"SM" sure looked disraught on Jan 31 in that TV/Det Stooksbury tape
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(02-18-2011, 02:43 AM)kitty1 Wrote: (02-17-2011, 05:15 PM)curious Wrote: In regards to the dad, the window, and basement...
First, in regards to the window, I wonder if LE confirmed that the bodies could be seen from the window based on his claims? Perhaps that was how the perps entered the house, unlocking it during a previous visit to the home...and it makes for a good cover if worried fingerprints lifted from the window might match yours.
Secondly, per Maytee's call to 911 stating something to the effect of seeing the bodies in the basement...does the home even have a basement and if so, does it have a window?
And lastly, where did LE find the puppy...in a cage, locked in a room, hiding? If it's a puppy, typically the first thing you do when you get home is let it out to go potty, were there dog prints in the snow and where do they let it out from the front, back, through the garage?
they found the puppy under the couch. poor thing was traumatized. he was biting and nipping at everyone that was trying to get him out. they had to call the dog warden to get him out. he is safe now and in good hands.
thanks for this bit of info, kitty!
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JSMom: would like to hear all angels of this story
i don't think there are any angels in this sad story. 
just teasing you!  couldn't resist!
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(02-18-2011, 02:51 AM)kitty1 Wrote: (02-18-2011, 01:40 AM)Jane Wrote: (02-18-2011, 01:16 AM)curious Wrote: (02-17-2011, 11:38 PM)jash Wrote: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing!
Quote:UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Both cell phones are on the ground, and we can see the people. Him and his girlfriend are tied up in the basement!
911 OPERATOR: Cell phones on their bodies?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: With cell phones on their bodies!
911 OPERATOR: She`s unclothed with (INAUDIBLE) pants on.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She only has pants on! And their hands are tied!
I think everyone can agree that the "unidentified female" is Maytee as she keeps saying my son.
More stuff that bothers me...
1. She says, "I just saw them" Yet it has been reported in PRINT that she waited in the car while her husband and cousin went to see if they could see anything. The cousin comes running back yelling call an ambulance, call the police...so Maytee did not see them when she said she did.
2. I can't see any way where you would say the word towels instead of duck tape.
3. The basement??? I don't even know where the hell she got this...You don't confuse a kitchen/family room combo with a basement.
4, Cell phones on their bodies? LE did not report this tho they reported cell phone parts strewn all over...I just think this is completel fabrication
5. Lisa has no top on. Lisa's uncle has confirmed that Lisa was still in her uniform..she was not found undressed.
All of Maytee's 911 calls in my opinion are half truths and complete fabrication and exaggeration about what was said and what occurred, and what she saw or didn't see. I swear, everything she says muddies the water further and makes it more difficult to weed out fact from fiction.
There's also conflicting reports and the lights being on...if what TW claims is accurate that only the light in the stairwell was on, how did the cousin see the bodies? Guess you would have to re-create the scenario to find out...dunno but i get more confused with every post
someone brought up a good point, last night, & I really think it's how it went down. I think JC's father kicked the door in, BEFORE that last 911 call was made, where Maytee is saying she can see her son lying inside the house, etc ... As soon as he kicked in the door, & saw what he saw, I imagine, THAT'S when Maytee called again (the last time)
we know that. that has never been in question. the last 911 call is when she reports that they have been found. i don't understand what u r saying????? of course they would find the bodies and then call 911. u r not making any sense at all???????????????????
hahahah!... no I wasn't, sorry bout that; I was extremely tired 
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(02-18-2011, 01:29 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: "SM" sure looked disraught on Jan 31 in that TV/Det Stooksbury tape
Yes, I got the impression she was a close and really good friend.
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(02-18-2011, 03:03 AM)AriGold Wrote: (02-18-2011, 02:08 AM)LedZeppelin Wrote: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ban-Justic...2314713870
...mmmm interesting...
Jesus Christ. Really?
This is so crazy! Like ShitStorm posted. Facebook wars over a double homicide. Pathetic!
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Thanks Zero & Jash!! I leave the sight for a few hours & get lost lol
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  B (02-18-2011, 01:31 PM)Jane Wrote: (02-18-2011, 02:51 AM)kitty1 Wrote: (02-18-2011, 01:40 AM)Jane Wrote: (02-18-2011, 01:16 AM)curious Wrote: (02-17-2011, 11:38 PM)jash Wrote: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My son is in the basement, tied up with a towel (ph). I just saw him through the window. The police were (EXPLETIVE DELETED) earlier and did absolutely nothing!
I think everyone can agree that the "unidentified female" is Maytee as she keeps saying my son.
More stuff that bothers me...
1. She says, "I just saw them" Yet it has been reported in PRINT that she waited in the car while her husband and cousin went to see if they could see anything. The cousin comes running back yelling call an ambulance, call the police...so Maytee did not see them when she said she did.
2. I can't see any way where you would say the word towels instead of duck tape.
3. The basement??? I don't even know where the hell she got this...You don't confuse a kitchen/family room combo with a basement.
4, Cell phones on their bodies? LE did not report this tho they reported cell phone parts strewn all over...I just think this is completel fabrication
5. Lisa has no top on. Lisa's uncle has confirmed that Lisa was still in her uniform..she was not found undressed.
All of Maytee's 911 calls in my opinion are half truths and complete fabrication and exaggeration about what was said and what occurred, and what she saw or didn't see. I swear, everything she says muddies the water further and makes it more difficult to weed out fact from fiction.
There's also conflicting reports and the lights being on...if what TW claims is accurate that only the light in the stairwell was on, how did the cousin see the bodies? Guess you would have to re-create the scenario to find out...dunno but i get more confused with every post
someone brought up a good point, last night, & I really think it's how it went down. I think JC's father kicked the door in, BEFORE that last 911 call was made, where Maytee is saying she can see her son lying inside the house, etc ... As soon as he kicked in the door, & saw what he saw, I imagine, THAT'S when Maytee called again (the last time)
we know that. that has never been in question. the last 911 call is when she reports that they have been found. i don't understand what u r saying????? of course they would find the bodies and then call 911. u r not making any sense at all???????????????????
hahahah!... no I wasn't, sorry bout that; I was extremely tired
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