Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[wanttoknow]

[quote='ToledoNative' pid='136381' dateline='1298724501']
I'm confused as to why Tiffany has two boyfriends? If I am reading all this correctly. She has slept with the minor and bought him things? Yet she is dating and pregnant by the one in hiding?

Why are you confused? Doesn't seem shocking to me. And didn't we read earlier in this thread that some say either could be the father?

I've been DVRing "maury" everyday. Still no Tiffany.

Where is Jerry Springer when you need him?

[Butterfly Girl]

i truly don't mean to be coy or secretive, but some things i have information about i can't discuss in public. or people would not confide in me. i have to keep my confidences.

Do you find this info creditable aside from the confidence thing?
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LC i don't know if you missed this or you're ignoring it lol

[fabulous]

Heres info on toledo gangs

http://www.knowgangs.com/gangsofamerica/...Page1.html

That's a lot of gang activity.

In Toledo, OH. These are the main gang that our unit is aiming for and there colors and territories.{WestSide}BLOODS (red) 1000 Fernwood, 2400 Hollywood & Lawrence, Prospect, Smith Park Mafia, 900 Pinewood. CRIPS (blue) 1100 Woodstock, 1000 Parkside, Joffery, Auburn, X-Blocc=Glenwood,Scottwood,Highland. {NorthSide}PIRUS (Maroon) 2200 Kent. BLOODS (red) 3300 Stickney, Page, Chase. CRIPS (blue) Cherrywoods= Ontario,Walnut, BeeHive= Rockingham,Fulton {EastSide}BLOODS (red) Whiler Homes, The Ville. CRIPS (blue) Burmingham Terrace {SouthSide}GD FOLKS (black) 300 Division, 1100 Belmont, 900 Vance, Tecumseh, 1200 Buckingham, Hamilton Park Gangsters, City Park Mafia {HillSide} (green) Torrington, 300 Wenz, Sleepy Hollow Park Boyz {SouthEnd}CHOLOZ (baby blue) 900 Venton, 300 Western. CRIPS (blue) 300 Western Locs. BLOODS (red) 900 Orchard And 600 Thayer. GOONS (grey) 1100 Walbridge, Deer Field Goons, 1400 Colton, 400 Hiett.

all of these streets are either in the inner-city or what we call the dirty south end or the north end... which is just a glorified innercity. MOST of these streets people that don't live there would never be on or around. ALOT of these streets are in our public housing projects.

this is an interesting FB page: (THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT RELATED TO THIS CASE, but just found it interesting about gangs in TOledo)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profi...62&sk=wall

and I know, I know but I just thought it was interesting.

[notsure]

yes, John Sr. and Maytee live in the same house. But is not your typical happy family setting. She lives for herself, she only cares about one person in the world and that is herself. Everything else that people are seeing from her at this present time is purely acting. Trust me, this woman is capable of evil destruction and she actually believes that she is smarter than the law.
If it hadn't been for the blizzard we had that week of the double murders, this story would have been the "Top Story" in local news everyday and reporters would have been out knocking on Maytee's neighbor's doors asking questions. Everyone who personally knows this woman, knows what she is capable of. People are afraid to say anything bad against her in fear of retaliation. I believe there has been too much talk on here about people who are not connected. People wake up, an arrest is coming soon....prepare yourself to be shocked.

lets hear your "theory" or "rumor".

[imsuchawildflower]

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post #7 here contains his record:

http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html

he has wisely kept a very low profile throughout.


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True, he may the only one with a brain in this mess...
Thank you for posting that...

[imsuchawildflower]

It looks like they all spell that way, to me. Why don't they use the letter K?
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Because "ck" is another gang sign (that I can do ) and it stands for "Crip Killer", so Crips won't ever put the two letters together. Gosh, I shouldn't know this.
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You know, I knew that at one time...some documentary on gangs I think.
If you dont use it, you lose it...LOL

[Methusala]

yes, John Sr. and Maytee live in the same house. But is not your typical happy family setting. She lives for herself, she only cares about one person in the world and that is herself. Everything else that people are seeing from her at this present time is purely acting. Trust me, this woman is capable of evil destruction and she actually believes that she is smarter than the law.
If it hadn't been for the blizzard we had that week of the double murders, this story would have been the "Top Story" in local news everyday and reporters would have been out knocking on Maytee's neighbor's doors asking questions. Everyone who personally knows this woman, knows what she is capable of. People are afraid to say anything bad against her in fear of retaliation. I believe there has been too much talk on here about people who are not connected. People wake up, an arrest is coming soon....prepare yourself to be shocked.

I am very interested in your post and your prediction, but it is not clear whether you are basing it on personal knowledge or on information from others or on speculation.

Could you please clarify?

Thanks.

[Lady Cop]

i truly don't mean to be coy or secretive, but some things i have information about i can't discuss in public. or people would not confide in me. i have to keep my confidences.



Do you find this info creditable aside from the confidence thing?

LC i don't know if you missed this or you're ignoring it lol

i saw it.


Kitty:
This reminds me of a question I asked earlier. Is this one of your longest threads for a crime? I've never been on a forum before so I assumed that this was the norm but, I beginning to think this case is much more unusual than others. I am really interested of course bcuz i am family. i am amazed at people's interest. people that live thousands of miles away.


well i have stated a couple times why i think this has drawn so much interest everywhere. in Mock, my longest threads were the Petit trial and Zahra Baker case. but we didn't have so many members.
i have had longer threads at a couple other forums before Mock.

a lot of people from NC did join for Zahra.
Petit will get busy again when the second defendant goes on trial soon. that is a horrific case, 10 times worse than this one. but i expect him to try to cop a plea. i expect the to DA say NO.
Petit:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4202.html

this thread is our longest here at a very young forum. thanks to all you Ohio people!

[Methusala]

Heres info on toledo gangs

http://www.knowgangs.com/gangsofamerica/...Page1.html

That's a lot of gang activity.

In Toledo, OH. These are the main gang that our unit is aiming for and there colors and territories.{WestSide}BLOODS (red) 1000 Fernwood, 2400 Hollywood & Lawrence, Prospect, Smith Park Mafia, 900 Pinewood. CRIPS (blue) 1100 Woodstock, 1000 Parkside, Joffery, Auburn, X-Blocc=Glenwood,Scottwood,Highland. {NorthSide}PIRUS (Maroon) 2200 Kent. BLOODS (red) 3300 Stickney, Page, Chase. CRIPS (blue) Cherrywoods= Ontario,Walnut, BeeHive= Rockingham,Fulton {EastSide}BLOODS (red) Whiler Homes, The Ville. CRIPS (blue) Burmingham Terrace {SouthSide}GD FOLKS (black) 300 Division, 1100 Belmont, 900 Vance, Tecumseh, 1200 Buckingham, Hamilton Park Gangsters, City Park Mafia {HillSide} (green) Torrington, 300 Wenz, Sleepy Hollow Park Boyz {SouthEnd}CHOLOZ (baby blue) 900 Venton, 300 Western. CRIPS (blue) 300 Western Locs. BLOODS (red) 900 Orchard And 600 Thayer. GOONS (grey) 1100 Walbridge, Deer Field Goons, 1400 Colton, 400 Hiett.

Is this police information posted by authorities, or simply punks bragging about their purported street knowledge?

Can one or two punks get together and claim they have formed a "gang" much like the "clubs" we invented when kids?

[Butterfly Girl]

i truly don't mean to be coy or secretive, but some things i have information about i can't discuss in public. or people would not confide in me. i have to keep my confidences.

Do you find this info creditable aside from the confidence thing?

LC i don't know if you missed this or you're ignoring it lol


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sorry I didnt use the correct word its credible not creditable this is what happens when I multi task lol

[imsuchawildflower]

I'm confused as to why Tiffany has two boyfriends? If I am reading all this correctly. She has slept with the minor and bought him things? Yet she is dating and pregnant by the one in hiding? I understood that she was referring to her bf, the one in hiding. There are many posts on her page between the two of them proclaiming their love.

Does Tiffany have custody of her kids? Does the minor watch her kids?? Does she let the addict minor babysit her kids? No she doesnt seem to have custody of her children. Reading her fb wall, seems she doesnt see too much of them either. The fathers have them.

[Gonzojoe]

can you imagine the hell John Sr is going through right now?Not only did he find his son dead he now has to deal with that raving lunatic Maytee.I understand she lost a son,I get it.But as much as she posts on FB she must be really a handful in person.

[purplepegasus]

Does Tiffany have custody of her kids? Does the minor watch her kids?? Does she let the addict minor babysit her kids? [/b] No she doesnt seem to have custody of her children. Reading her fb wall, seems she doesnt see too much of them either. The fathers have them.
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ToledoNative brought up a good point though, does she have her youngest? The one she had with the dead boyfriend?

[Lady Cop]

i truly don't mean to be coy or secretive, but some things i have information about i can't discuss in public. or people would not confide in me. i have to keep my confidences.



Do you find this info creditable aside from the confidence thing?

LC i don't know if you missed this or you're ignoring it lol

i saw it.


Kitty:
This reminds me of a question I asked earlier. Is this one of your longest threads for a crime? I've never been on a forum before so I assumed that this was the norm but, I beginning to think this case is much more unusual than others. I am really interested of course bcuz i am family. i am amazed at people's interest. people that live thousands of miles away.


well i have stated a couple times why i think this has drawn so much interest everywhere. in Mock, my longest threads were the Petit trial and Zahra Baker case. but we didn't have so many members.
i have had longer threads at a couple other forums before Mock.

a lot of people from NC did join for Zahra.
Petit will get busy again when the second defendant goes on trial soon. that is a horrific case, 10 times worse than this one. but i expect him to try to cop a plea. i expect the to DA say NO.
Petit:
http://mockforums.net/thread-4202.html

this thread is our longest here at a very young forum. thanks to all you Ohio people!

[sealed27]

I find it strange that out of all of Johnny's gang banging violence craving thug friends, that I have not seen a single one post a message about getting revenge for their beloved friend Johnny!! I mean these are people who are all about street justice, and protecting their own, and it seems odd that no one has mentioned getting back at their friend's killers! So much bravado and then nothing! Do they all know who did it and are just terrified of the killers? Or, what?!?!!!

Your absolutely right its quiet in DA HOOD!Too quiet!!

I have to disagree with this. Although minimal, I saw a post on the FB wall of one of his friends that mentioned revenge. They didn't mention revenge on who, they just mentioned revenge.

And on that bogus Justice for JC and LS page in the earlier version of it lol, there was a comment under their pic that was from what appeared to be a friend of JC's that stated We r going to find out who did this to you and yur girl, even spelled something in that way, but I can't find it at the moment

[truth be told]

My theory is the cold hard factual evidence which has been stated earlier. After studying the 9-11 call and knowing Maytee and how sick and twisted she is I have my own thoughts on what went down. I believe that there has been a lot of "staging" in this crime. I believe the staging began immidiately, even before the first 9-11 call was even made. Tiff's crappy lifestyle may actually be part of a master plan to try and frame her.
-1^st 9-11 call, Maytee knew the act addrress of Lisa parents home four digit address at that (Where she was not welcome at)
-Maytee acted like she was having a heart attack...again. Neighbors Danberry street are very familiar with this stunt. Maytee has the rescue squad at her house at least once a month for similar stuff (helps her get more perscriptions filled)
-She quickly recovered to become a detective and try and figure out who is responsible for "robbing and kidnapping her son" this was stated before the bodies were even found.
-Both parents got a ride to Lisa parents to avoid their vehicles being in the middle of a crime scene.
This is just a few examples of what's going on. People who know Johnny's mother...knows that she will go out of her way to hurt or destroy anyone who messes with her.

[Lady Cop]

truth be told...sorry to ask you in public, but you have ignored my PMs. did you get them? please reply. thankyou.

[toledoarea]

My theory is the cold hard factual evidence which has been stated earlier. After studying the 9-11 call and knowing Maytee and how sick and twisted she is I have my own thoughts on what went down. I believe that there has been a lot of "staging" in this crime. I believe the staging began immidiately, even before the first 9-11 call was even made. Tiff's crappy lifestyle may actually be part of a master plan to try and frame her.
-1^st 9-11 call, Maytee knew the act addrress of Lisa parents home four digit address at that (Where she was not welcome at)
-Maytee acted like she was having a heart attack...again. Neighbors Danberry street are very familiar with this stunt. Maytee has the rescue squad at her house at least once a month for similar stuff (helps her get more perscriptions filled)
-She quickly recovered to become a detective and try and figure out who is responsible for "robbing and kidnapping her son" this was stated before the bodies were even found.
-Both parents got a ride to Lisa parents to avoid their vehicles being in the middle of a crime scene.
This is just a few examples of what's going on. People who know Johnny's mother...knows that she will go out of her way to hurt or destroy anyone who messes with her.

Exactly. And look at the Straub family. They are grieving quietly, which is normal. People that lose loved ones may mention it a few times, not plaster it on facebook. It's almost like a form of begging for mercy and it's decieving. She is showing this grief as if she wants people to see her innocense when really she might not be.

[Freshbait78]

My theory is the cold hard factual evidence which has been stated earlier. After studying the 9-11 call and knowing Maytee and how sick and twisted she is I have my own thoughts on what went down. I believe that there has been a lot of "staging" in this crime. I believe the staging began immidiately, even before the first 9-11 call was even made. Tiff's crappy lifestyle may actually be part of a master plan to try and frame her.

Would you mind sharing your theory for motive? What was the motive for Maytee to set up this "hit" on her son & his girlfriend & what was the motive for pinning it on Tiffany? Was there a personal vendetta against Tiffany in particular?

[NightOwl]

RUMOR awhile back...........Maytee mentioned a very jealous ex-boyfriend - if this is true he would not like Johnny.

Shortage of info on this ex-boyfriend.

Whats the MOTIVE for this hellish crime?