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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
This is puzzling to me. JC was arrested for possession on 11/04/07 an OR'd on 11/05/07. Then the aggravated robbery chrges filed on 11/05/07. But at the end of the docket entry for the possession arrest it says this:

12/19/2009 Disposition information for this charge has been electronically sent to BCI. Clerk entry
So why was BCI requesting info on JC's possession charge?

I just haven't seen that before. I have looked at a lot of court documents.
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(03-03-2011, 08:34 PM)eye.of.my Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:14 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:11 PM)eye.of.my Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:06 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:03 PM)eye.of.my Wrote: I do to and you guys are welcome! I just found out who BC is and I personally know this lame is not intelligent enough to pull this off and was there before this happened. Sorry to burst thos bubbles guy. Ill bet money on it it was not him.

SEE NOW U GOT ME WONDERIN AGAIN! lol Ill just be glad when the DNA match is released! HOPEFULLY TODAY! Ugh Signs_173

I do to. I agree that BC is very creepy, and well not on our side obviously, but this is something that he would not have done and if I am wrong I will be very suprised because like I said he was gone before this happened hell he was gone in January soon after his last post or right before if Im not mistaken. Nothing on the news yet either, it has been on since I heard this. Smiley_emoticons_slash

One of his posts to a friends page says~hes back and had to finish some business! Nothing specific tho! IDK

That was about his baby momma I am sure. I promise you this man was not smart enough for what was done to these kids. I will spend days kissing the asses of the people I have told it wasn't him if it turns up I am wrong.


I would just like to say that intelligence is NOT a factor in being sadistic and cruel. It doesn't take brains to torture and murder someone, much less, ransack a house! STUPID people are also capable of this sort of vile behavior!!

The fact that LE has been so tight lipped has increased the amount of specualtion in this case, causing many of us to rack our brains and think of every possible scenario. There's nothing to say that there wasn't a couple of idiot thugs who made a mess of a crime scene with their DNA all over the place. Lets hope that EYE is right and that DNA has been returned!

I'm not saying it was BC, I'm just saying that stupid idiots commit violent crimes too!! Awink

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(03-03-2011, 09:08 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: eye.of.my do you mind me asking where you heard this info? Not people specifically but how can we trust it is true?

JSMom- I respect you for trying to help this woman in her time of mourning. However, as you can see now, she's a little too into herself! We all want the killers to be found and for Johnny and Lisa to rest in peace knowing they were found! We all feel for her and gave her an opportunity to speak, she continues to talk shit about US? Take a look in the mirror Maytee...or do witches not see themselves in mirrors? Like vampires?

JUST LIKE I TOLD HER ASS A SEC. AGO I GOT GOD ON MY SIDE! I dont care wtf she thinks any longer! IM JUST FUCKIN DONE WITH HER! she can WRITE THAT IN ER LIL BLACK BOOK!!!!!! she keeps megssaging me tho and I DONT WANNA HEAR ANYMORE OF HER BS! PLUS A FEW MORE CHOICE WORDS! Yah I kinda went off FINALLY! I am NOT gangsta but this white girl can GET GHETTO! 115
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(03-03-2011, 09:11 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:08 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: eye.of.my do you mind me asking where you heard this info? Not people specifically but how can we trust it is true?

JSMom- I respect you for trying to help this woman in her time of mourning. However, as you can see now, she's a little too into herself! We all want the killers to be found and for Johnny and Lisa to rest in peace knowing they were found! We all feel for her and gave her an opportunity to speak, she continues to talk shit about US? Take a look in the mirror Maytee...or do witches not see themselves in mirrors? Like vampires?

JUST LIKE I TOLD HER ASS A SEC. AGO I GOT GOD ON MY SIDE! I dont care wtf she thinks any longer! IM JUST FUCKIN DONE WITH HER! she can WRITE THAT IN ER LIL BLACK BOOK!!!!!! she keeps megssaging me tho and I DONT WANNA HEAR ANYMORE OF HER BS! PLUS A FEW MORE CHOICE WORDS! Yah I kinda went off FINALLY! I am NOT gangsta but this white girl can GET GHETTO! 115

Good for you!! I'm not a super religious person but I'd say she needs God more than anyone!!!
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It slipped while talking to a good source thats been in contact with one of the families. But as I told LC I can't help but wonder if the family isn't spreading that to scare the perps into turning themselves in??? There has been other talk that someone was recently arrested for it yet no names are given there either. But my source has had good info on everything else in this case hoping this is the same result.
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(03-03-2011, 09:09 PM)Adub Wrote: This is puzzling to me. JC was arrested for possession on 11/04/07 an OR'd on 11/05/07. Then the aggravated robbery chrges filed on 11/05/07. But at the end of the docket entry for the possession arrest it says this:

12/19/2009 Disposition information for this charge has been electronically sent to BCI. Clerk entry
So why was BCI requesting info on JC's possession charge?

I just haven't seen that before. I have looked at a lot of court documents.

That is very interesting.
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(03-03-2011, 09:14 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:11 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:08 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: eye.of.my do you mind me asking where you heard this info? Not people specifically but how can we trust it is true?

JSMom- I respect you for trying to help this woman in her time of mourning. However, as you can see now, she's a little too into herself! We all want the killers to be found and for Johnny and Lisa to rest in peace knowing they were found! We all feel for her and gave her an opportunity to speak, she continues to talk shit about US? Take a look in the mirror Maytee...or do witches not see themselves in mirrors? Like vampires?

JUST LIKE I TOLD HER ASS A SEC. AGO I GOT GOD ON MY SIDE! I dont care wtf she thinks any longer! IM JUST FUCKIN DONE WITH HER! she can WRITE THAT IN ER LIL BLACK BOOK!!!!!! she keeps megssaging me tho and I DONT WANNA HEAR ANYMORE OF HER BS! PLUS A FEW MORE CHOICE WORDS! Yah I kinda went off FINALLY! I am NOT gangsta but this white girl can GET GHETTO! 115

Good for you!! I'm not a super religious person but I'd say she needs God more than anyone!!!

YES SHE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!! x 100! 36 and thanks
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(03-03-2011, 09:16 PM)eye.of.my Wrote: It slipped while talking to a good source thats been in contact with one of the families. But as I told LC I can't help but wonder if the family isn't spreading that to scare the perps into turning themselves in??? There has been other talk that someone was recently arrested for it yet no names are given there either. But my source has had good info on everything else in this case hoping this is the same result.

Thank you!! I'm sure we're all going to be on edge in the morning hoping LE comes out with some statement! I'm not going to hold my breath tho!
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(03-03-2011, 09:11 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:34 PM)eye.of.my Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:14 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:11 PM)eye.of.my Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:06 PM)JsMom Wrote: SEE NOW U GOT ME WONDERIN AGAIN! lol Ill just be glad when the DNA match is released! HOPEFULLY TODAY! Ugh Signs_173

I do to. I agree that BC is very creepy, and well not on our side obviously, but this is something that he would not have done and if I am wrong I will be very suprised because like I said he was gone before this happened hell he was gone in January soon after his last post or right before if Im not mistaken. Nothing on the news yet either, it has been on since I heard this. Smiley_emoticons_slash

One of his posts to a friends page says~hes back and had to finish some business! Nothing specific tho! IDK

That was about his baby momma I am sure. I promise you this man was not smart enough for what was done to these kids. I will spend days kissing the asses of the people I have told it wasn't him if it turns up I am wrong.


I would just like to say that intelligence is NOT a factor in being sadistic and cruel. It doesn't take brains to torture and murder someone, much less, ransack a house! STUPID people are also capable of this sort of vile behavior!!

The fact that LE has been so tight lipped has increased the amount of specualtion in this case, causing many of us to rack our brains and think of every possible scenario. There's nothing to say that there wasn't a couple of idiot thugs who made a mess of a crime scene with their DNA all over the place. Lets hope that EYE is right and that DNA has been returned!

I'm not saying it was BC, I'm just saying that stupid idiots commit violent crimes too!! Awink

I am simply saying this dumbass wanna be gangster couldn't commit suicide correctly basicly.
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That's right. Not being a "snitch" means giving the criminals all the power.
And another quote, "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."

"Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone."
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i have to be gone a few hours tomorrow, and i just want you all to know if LE makes a statement while i am gone i will be shooting my computer. Guns


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(03-03-2011, 09:17 PM)esbee Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:09 PM)Adub Wrote: This is puzzling to me. JC was arrested for possession on 11/04/07 an OR'd on 11/05/07. Then the aggravated robbery chrges filed on 11/05/07. But at the end of the docket entry for the possession arrest it says this:

12/19/2009 Disposition information for this charge has been electronically sent to BCI. Clerk entry
So why was BCI requesting info on JC's possession charge?

I just haven't seen that before. I have looked at a lot of court documents.

That is very interesting.

This is in reference to court ordered fingerprints which are electrionically sent to BCI. These case dispostions relating to the fingerprints are tracked for informational purposes. Just an FYI...carry on.

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(03-03-2011, 09:02 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:57 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:04 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
All you gossiping evil unsympathetic mock forum sewer trash can choke on your tongues for all i care...laugh now n cry later and im sure u all have kids too... Just remember it could happen to you and only then will you know my pain KARMA you low life pathetic poor excuses for human life...no life havin gossip queens/kings i will never join your pathetic sight
3 hours ago via iPhone · LikeUnlike ·

Oh well JSmom you tried....and we meant well. She could have reached a lot more people through Mock than FB, but she still wrapped up in her grief, which is completely understandable, but I hope she doesn't swallow her tongue while spewing all that garbage...

IM FUCKING DONE WITH THAT WOMEN! THIS ISNT FUCKING ABOUT HER ASS NO WAYS ITS ABOUT JOHNNY AND LISA u know? FUCK WHAT SHES TALKIN! IM DONE! I BETTER THEN THAT BS SHES TALKIN! SHE CAN VOODOO THAT SHIT! 115

You've been very supportive of Maytee and I'll bet it meant a lot to her. I think she's out of her mind with grief and anger and i don't blame her. It couldn't be more personal, for her, and it's got to be hard to see people on a forum discuss, with objectivity, the personal details, police records, rumors, and her precious son.

I pray that the Creator, universe, whatever, relieves her of this terrible pain and that her anger finds some end when the killers are removed from society. I know that Johnny would not want his mother to suffer like this. It's not good for her. It just has to play itself out.
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(03-03-2011, 09:14 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:11 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:08 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: eye.of.my do you mind me asking where you heard this info? Not people specifically but how can we trust it is true?

JSMom- I respect you for trying to help this woman in her time of mourning. However, as you can see now, she's a little too into herself! We all want the killers to be found and for Johnny and Lisa to rest in peace knowing they were found! We all feel for her and gave her an opportunity to speak, she continues to talk shit about US? Take a look in the mirror Maytee...or do witches not see themselves in mirrors? Like vampires?

JUST LIKE I TOLD HER ASS A SEC. AGO I GOT GOD ON MY SIDE! I dont care wtf she thinks any longer! IM JUST FUCKIN DONE WITH HER! she can WRITE THAT IN ER LIL BLACK BOOK!!!!!! she keeps megssaging me tho and I DONT WANNA HEAR ANYMORE OF HER BS! PLUS A FEW MORE CHOICE WORDS! Yah I kinda went off FINALLY! I am NOT gangsta but this white girl can GET GHETTO! 115

Good for you!! I'm not a super religious person but I'd say she needs God more than anyone!!!

She could use an exorcist.


"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw Smiley_emoticons_fies
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(03-03-2011, 09:20 PM)jenjen Wrote: That's right. Not being a "snitch" means giving the criminals all the power.
And another quote, "If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything."

"Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone."

I've just been thinking of a "snitch" as someone who rats on another to cover their own ass. Maybe Johnny was an informant. Like working with LE. It would explain why he suddenly started going back around the homeboys.
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(03-03-2011, 09:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i have to be gone a few hours tomorrow, and i just want you all to know if LE makes a statement while i am gone i will be shooting my computer. Guns

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IM SO HEATED LC! ugh
DID I USE THE BITCH WORD?!?!?!
Oops I SURE DID! hahaha
:x
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(03-03-2011, 09:26 PM)FutileResistance Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:17 PM)esbee Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:09 PM)Adub Wrote: This is puzzling to me. JC was arrested for possession on 11/04/07 an OR'd on 11/05/07. Then the aggravated robbery chrges filed on 11/05/07. But at the end of the docket entry for the possession arrest it says this:

12/19/2009 Disposition information for this charge has been electronically sent to BCI. Clerk entry
So why was BCI requesting info on JC's possession charge?

I just haven't seen that before. I have looked at a lot of court documents.

That is very interesting.

This is in reference to court ordered fingerprints which are electrionically sent to BCI. These case dispostions relating to the fingerprints are tracked for informational purposes. Just an FYI...carry on.

And it took BCI 2 years to get around to requesting JCs finger prints?

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(03-03-2011, 09:28 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:02 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:57 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 08:04 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
All you gossiping evil unsympathetic mock forum sewer trash can choke on your tongues for all i care...laugh now n cry later and im sure u all have kids too... Just remember it could happen to you and only then will you know my pain KARMA you low life pathetic poor excuses for human life...no life havin gossip queens/kings i will never join your pathetic sight
3 hours ago via iPhone · LikeUnlike ·

Oh well JSmom you tried....and we meant well. She could have reached a lot more people through Mock than FB, but she still wrapped up in her grief, which is completely understandable, but I hope she doesn't swallow her tongue while spewing all that garbage...

IM FUCKING DONE WITH THAT WOMEN! THIS ISNT FUCKING ABOUT HER ASS NO WAYS ITS ABOUT JOHNNY AND LISA u know? FUCK WHAT SHES TALKIN! IM DONE! I BETTER THEN THAT BS SHES TALKIN! SHE CAN VOODOO THAT SHIT! 115

You've been very supportive of Maytee and I'll bet it meant a lot to her. I think she's out of her mind with grief and anger and i don't blame her. It couldn't be more personal, for her, and it's got to be hard to see people on a forum discuss, with objectivity, the personal details, police records, rumors, and her precious son.

I pray that the Creator, universe, whatever, relieves her of this terrible pain and that her anger finds some end when the killers are removed from society. I know that Johnny would not want his mother to suffer like this. It's not good for her. It just has to play itself out.

I UNDERSTAND THAT MORE THEN ANYTHING! I HAVE LOST A CHILD JUST NOT IN THIS MANNER! but I HAVE BEEN NOTHING BUT NICE TO HER! THERE FOR HER! DEFENDING HER! and THATS WHAT I GET! NAW HELLLLLL NAW! NOT THIS ONE HERE! IM DONE! :B NO SWEAT OFF MY ASS AT ALL!!!!! :B IT WILL TAKE THE WORLDS PRAYERS TO HELP HER WITH HER PROBLEMS! GOD DONT LIKE "UGLY" NONE OF GODS KIDS R WITCHES! just sayin.....Im not a holy roller but I know whom got me through my death of my son! ENOUGH Said =)
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(03-03-2011, 09:31 PM)Adub Wrote: And it took BCI 2 years to get around to requesting JCs finger prints?

Its called integration of computer systems, and catching up with a "backlog" of information. You will find cases from the 1990s that have the same docket entry, while others do not. BCI did not personally request that particular information. It is now standard practice with most criminal justice agencies in Ohio now to send numerous forms of data to various agencies, including past records.
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(03-03-2011, 09:31 PM)Adub Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:26 PM)FutileResistance Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:17 PM)esbee Wrote:
(03-03-2011, 09:09 PM)Adub Wrote: This is puzzling to me. JC was arrested for possession on 11/04/07 an OR'd on 11/05/07. Then the aggravated robbery chrges filed on 11/05/07. But at the end of the docket entry for the possession arrest it says this:

12/19/2009 Disposition information for this charge has been electronically sent to BCI. Clerk entry
So why was BCI requesting info on JC's possession charge?

I just haven't seen that before. I have looked at a lot of court documents.

That is very interesting.

This is in reference to court ordered fingerprints which are electrionically sent to BCI. These case dispostions relating to the fingerprints are tracked for informational purposes. Just an FYI...carry on.

And it took BCI 2 years to get around to requesting JCs finger prints?

That's what I was thinking.

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