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(03-07-2011, 07:05 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO about what spectulation of whos blood is all over....They took knives out of the home as part of the evidence. I think Lisa or Johnny might have got a cut or stab in on one of the perps. Possibly Lisa did and that is why they brutalized her like they did. I am saying "they" because I think there had to have been more than one.
I see it differently. I see LS as the blood found at the scene and possibly the only blood there was hers. The knives were used not as weapons but were executed as a means to cut the tape and bags from the two victims by two rescuers.
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(03-07-2011, 07:14 PM)Methusala Wrote: Cordray on Lucas County Sheriff charging for PSAP
(Thought this was interesting and in some way possibly relevant?)
Methu,
You are the most investigative Mocker. You find things I couldn't even think of looking for.
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(03-07-2011, 07:05 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO about what spectulation of whos blood is all over....They took knives out of the home as part of the evidence. I think Lisa or Johnny might have got a cut or stab in on one of the perps. Possibly Lisa did and that is why they brutalized her like they did. I am saying "they" because I think there had to have been more than one.
That is my thinking too. At least 2 perps and at least one stabbed by Johnny or Lisa.
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Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy....
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(03-07-2011, 07:05 PM)Methusala Wrote: (03-07-2011, 12:41 PM)Methusala Wrote: We all keep referring to "Law Enforcement" and "The Detectives" and that conjures up a certain image, but I keep worrying about just what kind of depth, experience and training exists in the Lucas County Sheriff's Department to handle the investigation of a murder case.
Are we picturing a big staff of trained, experienced civil service detectives, like the the Detective Bureau of the Toledo Police Department has?
Or does the Det. Bureau of the Sheriff's Office consist of only 2-3 people given jobs by the Sheriff as political favors, which is the way I believe the rest of the Sheriff's staff is filled, to-wit his deputies who do traffic patrol and misdemeanors in the unincorporated areas of the county, and run the county jail?
How many people does the Sheriff have in his Detective Bureau? What is their training? What is their experience in handling homicide cases? Just to what extent are they getting assistance if any from the FBI and the Toledo Police Department?
We don't know the answers to these questions, and it troubles me greatly.
How can we find out the answers to these questions? Would the Sheriff answers these questions or would he contend that public responses would compromise the investigation?
Is there anyone on Mock who has friends on TPD or other local agencies who would know the answers to these questions?
"Because of the layoffs, Lucas County will stop participating in terrorism, drug and violent crime multi-jurisdictional task forces."
http://www.toledofreepress.com/tag/lucas...y-sheriff/
Toledo Free Press, June 24, 2010 You know, I thought you were teasing till I read the article. Good grief. Now mind you, they can't participate in a violent task force but if you drop a wayward prescription pill in their midst, they'd go apeshit.
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(03-07-2011, 07:26 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy....
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Just so you know that i know who you all are the second you decided to murder my johnny n lisa is the second you signed your death sentence... Not one of you will get away with it i promise you that...justice does prevail and you are all caught and you know who you are i hate you and cnt wait to see you all die
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This is what she wrote one of her pages.
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(03-07-2011, 07:13 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Sure wish the local news media would interview Johnny's father and Lisa's father. It would be interesting to hear their opinions. I can say on here "KEEP THE FAITH!"
It sure would be interesting to hear their thoughts.
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Well WTOL just announce that Maytee will be sharing on what else she lost since Johnnys death tonight at 11
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(03-07-2011, 07:26 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy.... Someone said LS's crazy ex boyfriend was at the funeral and that his crazy ass had been put through the wringer by LE.
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(03-07-2011, 07:27 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: (03-07-2011, 07:26 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy....
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Just so you know that i know who you all are the second you decided to murder my johnny n lisa is the second you signed your death sentence... Not one of you will get away with it i promise you that...justice does prevail and you are all caught and you know who you are i hate you and cnt wait to see you all die
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This is what she wrote one of her pages.
Well it does say she knows. Wonder what kinda medication she is taking?
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(03-07-2011, 07:30 PM)concerned Wrote: Well WTOL just announce that Maytee will be sharing on what else she lost since Johnnys death tonight at 11
Someone local will have to watch it and give us a report.
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Yeah shes full of shit...
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(03-07-2011, 07:30 PM)van64 Wrote: (03-07-2011, 07:26 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy.... Someone said LS's crazy ex boyfriend was at the funeral and that his crazy ass had been put through the wringer by LE.
Am I alowed to ask his intials?Or name? I want to look him up ..Does anyone know if he has a facebook?
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I still have faith that this will be solved and soon. IMO they didnt have the manpower so that is why the FBI was brought in. The Sheriffs Department wants to catch these fiends. Nothing would make Telb look better. Especially since his little "trial". Im sure that the detectives on the case take there work home with them. They have families and children also. They seen the actual crime scene and know what we dont know.
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Could that be an "underlying" reason why Fed Marshalls went to KC to get MM and BC. Get em fast before they heal? (theory)
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(03-07-2011, 07:32 PM)van64 Wrote: (03-07-2011, 07:27 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote: (03-07-2011, 07:26 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Maytee is going around telling every1 she knows who did it, and they will see their day.. But I thinks she full of shit. I think she just thinks Tw did it. She dont want to think it could of had something to do with payback on her because of all the shit shes done in the past to people . It is very sad these two beatuiful kids had to go through this but I think it sad everyone keeps blaming Tw.It took a real crazy sick person to do what they did to them. I dont think Tw or anyone around her could even pull that off . What about LS ex boyfriend??I herd he was crazy....
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
Just so you know that i know who you all are the second you decided to murder my johnny n lisa is the second you signed your death sentence... Not one of you will get away with it i promise you that...justice does prevail and you are all caught and you know who you are i hate you and cnt wait to see you all die
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This is what she wrote one of her pages.
Well it does say she knows. Wonder what kinda medication she is taking?
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(03-07-2011, 07:30 PM)concerned Wrote: Well WTOL just announce that Maytee will be sharing on what else she lost since Johnnys death tonight at 11
What is wtol ? Is it something that can b accessed on the puter?
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(03-07-2011, 07:21 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: (03-07-2011, 07:14 PM)Methusala Wrote: Cordray on Lucas County Sheriff charging for PSAP
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Methu,
You are the most investigative Mocker. You find things I couldn't even think of looking for.
Thanks
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Alot of you here are very informative! and ZERO u crack me the fuck up! 
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(03-07-2011, 07:32 PM)van64 Wrote: (03-07-2011, 07:30 PM)concerned Wrote: Well WTOL just announce that Maytee will be sharing on what else she lost since Johnnys death tonight at 11
Someone local will have to watch it and give us a report.
I will tape it but watch it online. They are good about posting their stories online.
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(03-07-2011, 07:36 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: Am I alowed to ask his intials?Or name? I want to look him up ..Does anyone know if he has a facebook?
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