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Did the removal of God
#21
Knowing someone is watching you 247 kinda makes you double think before doing anything bad. I know it made me think a bunch of times and kept me out of trouble when I was a kid.
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#22
(08-13-2011, 08:47 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Yes they did, thus the question I asked which by the way you have danced all around without answering.

even though it was really not about the teachers doing anything.

I answered your question. They DID NOT take God (by which you mean prayer) out of the schools. They took TEACHER LED PRAYER out of schools.

If you are talking about the Scopes monkey trial, say that. I refuse to have my children taught a bunch of stupid bullshit lies so you can be happy on Sunday. The thought should horrify every intelligent adult.

Do a poll and see how many members agree with me and how many agree with you. That may open your eyes or disgust me. Even odds.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#23
(08-13-2011, 08:53 PM)Maggot Wrote: Knowing someone is watching you 247 kinda makes you double think before doing anything bad. I know it made me think a bunch of times and kept me out of trouble when I was a kid.

For me, knowing that I have to live with the memory of what I did is enough.

Which is true morality? External morality (someone else watching you) or intrinsic morality (doing the right thing because you know what you did)? Think about it.

External morality is signified by a lower stage or moral development:

Level 1. Preconventional Morality
•Stage 1 - Obedience and Punishment
The earliest stage of moral development is especially common in young children, but adults are also capable of expressing this type of reasoning. At this stage, children see rules as fixed and absolute. Obeying the rules is important because it is a means to avoid punishment.

•Stage 2 - Individualism and Exchange
At this stage of moral development, children account for individual points of view and judge actions based on how they serve individual needs. In the Heinz dilemma, children argued that the best course of action was the choice that best-served Heinz’s needs. Reciprocity is possible, but only if it serves one's own interests.

Level 2. Conventional Morality
•Stage 3 - Interpersonal Relationships
Often referred to as the "good boy-good girl" orientation, this stage of moral development is focused on living up to social expectations and roles. There is an emphasis on conformity, being "nice," and consideration of how choices influence relationships.

•Stage 4 - Maintaining Social Order
At this stage of moral development, people begin to consider society as a whole when making judgments. The focus is on maintaining law and order by following the rules, doing one’s duty and respecting authority.

Level 3. Postconventional Morality
•Stage 5 - Social Contract and Individual Rights
At this stage, people begin to account for the differing values, opinions and beliefs of other people. Rules of law are important for maintaining a society, but members of the society should agree upon these standards.

•Stage 6 - Universal Principles
Kolhberg’s final level of moral reasoning is based upon universal ethical principles and abstract reasoning. At this stage, people follow these internalized principles of justice, even if they conflict with laws and rules.


Jesus freaks are stuck in the moral world of a child. The threat of Hell keeps simple people in line.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#24
Copy and paste queen.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
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#25
This little light of mine. I'm gonna let it shine. (til I need the batteries for my vibrator.)
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#26
(08-13-2011, 08:56 PM)Cracker Wrote: Do a poll and see how many members agree with me and how many agree with you. That may open your eyes or disgust me. Even odds.

hah what the fuck is wrong with you?

Morality is what it is, the bible is the source for all of the moral obligations which we in this country as civilized people hold.

Other countries use their own deities.

but no matter which you choose they all fall around the same moral code.

this country is the only one that seems content to let our society deteriorate well us and the UK the most godless place on the face of the earth.





Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
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#27
I believe that with children morality is taught. Religion is a tool that has worked for centuries and today with all the science that is easily found on the internet, humans believe that they are above all that religion and god stuff. I think we are fools to think we are that smart.
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(08-13-2011, 09:14 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Copy and paste queen.

I learned it in college, Dick. Undergraduate. So did other people that actually study things outside of Wednesday night Bible Study.

It's common knowledge.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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(08-13-2011, 09:21 PM)Maggot Wrote: I believe that with children morality is taught. Religion is a tool that has worked for centuries and today with all the science that is easily found on the internet, humans believe that they are above all that religion and god stuff. I think we are fools to think we are that smart.

People have decided there is more than one religion, Maggot. Why that bothers people is beyond me.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#30
Deflection
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(08-13-2011, 08:52 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I asked a simple yes or no question, what's so scientific about it, except your desire to muddy the waters with all the bullshit.

you can't prove there is not a god, I can't prove there is, you can't prove evolution, I can't prove creation, I asked about a simple morality issue and the state of our society, we both know it was not always like it is now? so should I believe in de evolution? or did something happen that changed the way our society see's things?

I think it was removing God from the schools and from our government, you can't prove I'm wrong, you can't tell me where morality started and where it comes from other than the bible(born in ) my ass, you know that ain't real.

From post NUMBER FUCKING TWO IN THIS THREAD:
(08-13-2011, 07:57 PM)Cracker Wrote: No.

I CAN prove evolution. You just can't be taught. Your eyes are closed. That's fine, your choice, but don't assume everyone else is as simple-minded as you are.

I answered you numerous times. You don't see and you don't hear.

Christian Dick:
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(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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#32
(08-13-2011, 09:34 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Deflection

At some point, that's just retarded. We are past that point.
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#33
I don't hide my Christanity. I don't always make it to church and sometimes I find it boring, but at the end of the day I'm thankful for all I have been allowed to enjoy. Being around the dying, and seeing things I can't explain strengthens my faith and belief. That said, I don't exactly come across like a church lady...and I do know I can be twisted, but I proudly proclaim my faith. Also, church wine is pretty good, actually.
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#34
So you don't feel the need to go to a public school and force it down some kid's throat? Good for you.
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#35
evolution remains unproven and is a theory to the origin for life.
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#36
(08-13-2011, 09:40 PM)Cracker Wrote: So you don't feel the need to go to a public school and force it down some kid's throat? Good for you.

Me? No. I hate going to my kids schools. Germ factories. No I prefer beautiful poetry and a bit of interpretive dance.
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(08-13-2011, 09:40 PM)Cracker Wrote: So you don't feel the need to go to a public school and force it down some kid's throat? Good for you.

making up your own conversations again.

I said take it to school from home not bring it home from school. even though that could happen you know peer pressure is a real bitch.

can you imagine a kid saying no to robbing a store after school because of religion? fucked up don't think?



Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
















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#38
Monkey feet fascinate me.
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#39
(08-13-2011, 09:46 PM)Maggot Wrote: Monkey feet fascinate me.

Don't monkeys have paws? Surely it is against God's Word to refer to them as feet.

Oh, the things you could do with feet like a monkey!
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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(08-13-2011, 09:43 PM)IMaDick Wrote:
(08-13-2011, 09:40 PM)Cracker Wrote: So you don't feel the need to go to a public school and force it down some kid's throat? Good for you.

making up your own conversations again.

I said take it to school from home not bring it home from school. even though that could happen you know peer pressure is a real bitch.

can you imagine a kid saying no to robbing a store after school because of religion? fucked up don't think?

You dumbass. Every prisoner is a Reborn Christian, especially on Death Row. Emphasis on Reborn.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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