(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: THANKYOU RED VELVET!
do you know who set that page up?

No clue LC.

(02-20-2011, 02:09 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:32 AM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 02:03 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 12:24 AM)purplepegasus Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 12:23 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: wow

Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!

I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....

use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe

Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.


No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!

This is like a tourist trip to Hell. These people are SOOOOOOO fucked up. I have spent years researching mind control and its ties to Satanic cults, human trafficking, the military, the ruling classes, the Illuminati, etc, and all of these FB and MySpace pages of these human black holes remind of all of that. The difference is that these people are not the "establishment". They are the trailer park/ghetto version of evil.

When I lived in LA, my honey was a private investigator. Though most of his work was for attorneys and missing persons cases, he also did some bounty hunting. He went into the most dangerous parts of LA county, bringing in people just like these. He used to tell me that with most of them, you could look into their eyes and there was NOTHING there. Just soul-less automatons. I can really see that with these thugs in the pages we're all looking at.

interesting, SS! Had to laugh at "tourist trip to Hell". I've definately learned more than I ever really wanted to know, about gangs, & 'wannabe's', from the posts here, & all the different links. I found myself grimacing, while looking at some of that crap last night.

I've gotta say that Tiff's mother's MySpace was the ultimate. Yes, SHE IS NOT INVOLVED and merely a peripheral character in the entire picture, but talk about insight into the mindset. Sheesh! On the part where it said "interests" her only reply was MONEY. I've seen that theme repeated on many of the pages. One guy had himself attending the University of [($$$)]. Those photos of the "purple drank", too!!! I mean it's bad enough to be drinking that shit (out of a baby bottle, no less) but who in the hell would find that worthy of taking pictures and uploading them?! Damn, talk about having NOTHING going on in your mind and soul.

*shakes head*

Interesting last couple of posts! Hoping people are starting to talk.

Shitstorm said: "There was not one peep from Tiffany. No, "Oh, Lisa :(". No, "Wasn't she beautiful?". Nothing. I found that interesting."

While Tiff & Lisa obviously knew each other, by no means would I consider them "friends" although w/all the "God Bless" that Tiff was pulling out of her ass, you'd think she could've said something about Lisa.

(02-20-2011, 05:48 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: THANKYOU RED VELVET!
do you know who set that page up?

No clue LC.

I don't know for sure but I think we know this person if u get my drift. god that sounds like 1960's lingo. there is a post that is verbatim from another forum that. nevermind it's too confusing. I think we are all familiar.

(02-20-2011, 05:48 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: THANKYOU RED VELVET!
do you know who set that page up?

No clue LC.

i hope you'll keep monitoring it, since it is ostensibly being used by a principal in case. thankyou again! i'll check in on it also since it appears to be public.

edit to add. yes i wouldn't be surprised if it's the same attention-seeking twat from the other pages.

(02-20-2011, 05:40 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: And the drama continues.....


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...5756296730

Lisa Straub - Injustice A major investigation into why and who killed Lisa Straub and Johnny Clarke in Springfield township is underway. Investigators discovered white baggie pieces, a light blue lighter and a Ziploc bag on the kitchen floor. In the home of Lisa Straub on various kitchen countertops a digital scale, two knives and central security documents were found.

The list of collected evidence goes on, including a key with 5-4-4 stamped on it under the body of Lisa Straub. The items were seized -- taken as evidence -- during a search of the home owned by Lisa Straub's parents. Throughout the house, they gathered DNA swabs.

They also found a key with 5-4-4 stamped on it under the body of Lisa Straub. The warrant also describes black/pink interband pants under Straub's neck. Her wrists were taped together, but not her ankles. Johnny Clarke's ankles were taped up.

That's one of many details investigators are trying to sort through in the search for a killer or killers. Johny Clarke has a troubled past including time spent in prison. As prayers go out to the family of Johnny, the family is probaly asking themselves if they could have done something to prevent this. Clarke’s mother certainly has not lived her life as a good example for her son. As speculation surrounds who John Clarke may have told the house’s owners were out of town, one has to wonder, should it also be asked who his mother could have told?
about an hour ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You fucking evil bitch iam the best mom any son could want n proud they proud to have i did everything for my boys. you stupid ignorant cunt iam very proud of my sons and you are a satanic demon and dont know what the fuck your talking about you evil piece of trash karma is on her way to you and i hope you choke on your tongue you piece of shit worthless excuse for life it should be people like you killed and not our kids ypu pathetic skum i wish you ill will watch how karma devours you
52 minutes ago

Kassa Nova Your obviously a dumb ass bitch who knows nothing about johnny. Lisa lived in rich ville where she was able to pull the wool over her parents EYES! You are a cunt and will rot in hell for what you are doing to ONE family, while the other is sitting there BELIEVING that lisa's exboyfriend and friends arent SUSPECTS.
42 minutes ago

Bre Michelle Prowell WOAH!!! Im so sick of this "troubled past of Johnnys" he made a bad choice in WHO he hung out with and that got him into trouble he did nothing!!! He didn't have a "troubled past" i grew up with him and ALLL OF OUR PARENTS broke their backs...
See More
40 minutes ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She keeps deleting some of my stuff too
35 minutes ago

Bre Michelle Prowell I'm sick of this shit! It's so rude and heartless. You people do begging u can to drive a grieving family insane and hurt them and bash the victim and his parents?
33 minutes ago

Tracey Schuette this shit is fuckin ridiculous ! we all have a fucking past ! and weve all done dumb ass shit in our lives ITS CALLED LIFE ! how dare you even try to say what kind of mother maytee is ! you dont kno 1 fucking thing about her. and why the f...
See More
6 minutes ago


Posting it before it's deleted.

and the mother of the year award goes to...


no... that was mean of me. i do feel sorry for her. but saying she's the best mom and son could want... that's taking it a little far... just my opinion, of course.

This was a comment on the new page, concerning Johnny's involvement in gangs and the robbery. Apparently, this is a cousin of his as she references Maytee to be her aunt in another comment.

"Im sorry but Johnny was NEVER in a gang a day in his life!! Yea maybe he was into some drugs but LISA WAS TOO! and he never once had a weapon a day in his life! And no he was no in prison for armed robbery! He was in a car with 3 other peop...le and ONE PERSON WHO WAS NOT JOHNNY got out and robbed someone and they ALL went to jail for it!! WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE. Johnny and Lisa hung out with ALL the same people. And if Johnny knew these people so did she. Neither one of them is responsible for this murder. Lisa had problems BEFORE she met Johnny."

(02-20-2011, 05:51 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:48 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: THANKYOU RED VELVET!
do you know who set that page up?

No clue LC.

i hope you'll keep monitoring it, since it is ostensibly being used by a principal in case. thankyou again! i'll check in on it also since it appears to be public.
edit to add. yes i wouldn't be surprised if it's the same attention-seeking twat from the other pages.

can someone pm me the link?

(02-20-2011, 05:51 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:48 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: THANKYOU RED VELVET!
do you know who set that page up?

No clue LC.

i hope you'll keep monitoring it, since it is ostensibly being used by a principal in case. thankyou again! i'll check in on it also since it appears to be public.
edit to add. yes i wouldn't be surprised if it's the same attention-seeking twat from the other pages.

You're welcome, and I will continue to monitor it.

(02-20-2011, 04:59 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Unfortunately the real criminals - the people who stalked the home and set
up the hit- were not there so will not get punished in any way by LE.

Their debt may be paid, but not by money or items in safes.

I've thought about that too, TC, ugh!

(02-20-2011, 05:54 PM)sharit Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:51 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:48 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: THANKYOU RED VELVET!
do you know who set that page up?

No clue LC.

i hope you'll keep monitoring it, since it is ostensibly being used by a principal in case. thankyou again! i'll check in on it also since it appears to be public.
edit to add. yes i wouldn't be surprised if it's the same attention-seeking twat from the other pages.

can someone pm me the link?

it's on previous page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...5756296730

(02-20-2011, 05:48 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 02:09 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:32 AM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 02:03 AM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 12:24 AM)purplepegasus Wrote: Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!

I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....

use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe

Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.


No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!

This is like a tourist trip to Hell. These people are SOOOOOOO fucked up. I have spent years researching mind control and its ties to Satanic cults, human trafficking, the military, the ruling classes, the Illuminati, etc, and all of these FB and MySpace pages of these human black holes remind of all of that. The difference is that these people are not the "establishment". They are the trailer park/ghetto version of evil.

When I lived in LA, my honey was a private investigator. Though most of his work was for attorneys and missing persons cases, he also did some bounty hunting. He went into the most dangerous parts of LA county, bringing in people just like these. He used to tell me that with most of them, you could look into their eyes and there was NOTHING there. Just soul-less automatons. I can really see that with these thugs in the pages we're all looking at.

interesting, SS! Had to laugh at "tourist trip to Hell". I've definately learned more than I ever really wanted to know, about gangs, & 'wannabe's', from the posts here, & all the different links. I found myself grimacing, while looking at some of that crap last night.

I've gotta say that Tiff's mother's MySpace was the ultimate. Yes, SHE IS NOT INVOLVED and merely a peripheral character in the entire picture, but talk about insight into the mindset. Sheesh! On the part where it said "interests" her only reply was MONEY. I've seen that theme repeated on many of the pages. One guy had himself attending the University of [($$$)]. Those photos of the "purple drank", too!!! I mean it's bad enough to be drinking that shit (out of a baby bottle, no less) but who in the hell would find that worthy of taking pictures and uploading them?! Damn, talk about having NOTHING going on in your mind and soul.

*shakes head*

& her hero is "Jesus"

(02-20-2011, 05:43 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 04:46 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 04:39 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 04:34 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: KNOWLEDGE of possible things that might go down during the evening.
Prior to any bodies found.

911
Johnny's Mother: "I want to know where my son and his girlfriend are at. I want to know if they got abducted by whoever tried to assault them and rob them."

Yes, I see lots of people on here think Maytee knew something was going down before it happened. I struggle with this. I feel like she was saying this just to try and escalate the situation to 911 dispatch since LE wasn't doing too much. But, why, why would Maytee have used those words? Did someone threaten her that they were going to kidnap and/or harm her son?

very odd choice of words, indeed. i can't decide where i stand with maytee. sometimes i feel like she knows something more (even if she is not involved directly) and sometimes i just chalk everything up that she says to her being a little loony (and grieving the loss of her son).

people have been saying it all along and i'm going to repeat it... there is something that is just not right about this whole thing. it's unsettling... especially when you look closely at some of the possible players. i think that's part of what makes this case so intriguing to many.

I flip flop a lot, about Maytee, but I still think it's odd she said the bodies were "in the basement" ??? I asked yesterday, if the bodies were found in the living/dining/kitchen area .... I THOUGHT the Uncle said that's where they were, but I could be wrong. If they were, why on earth would Maytee say clearly, they were in the basement?

I think the only thing Maytee is guilty of here is being a caring mother who is alarmed at the possibility of what had happened to her son. I don't see any harmful intent or complicity in her actions. She is really at a disadvantage as this unfolds and wants answers and is hoping to find her son is alright. She knows he runs in dangerous circles and participates in dangerous activities. I listen to the 911 tapes and I hear her. She is a victim of the unfolding circumstances...IMO_

(02-20-2011, 05:53 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: This was a comment on the new page, concerning Johnny's involvement in gangs and the robbery. Apparently, this is a cousin of his as she references Maytee to be her aunt in another comment.

"Im sorry but Johnny was NEVER in a gang a day in his life!! Yea maybe he was into some drugs but LISA WAS TOO! and he never once had a weapon a day in his life! And no he was no in prison for armed robbery! He was in a car with 3 other peop...le and ONE PERSON WHO WAS NOT JOHNNY got out and robbed someone and they ALL went to jail for it!! WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE. Johnny and Lisa hung out with ALL the same people. And if Johnny knew these people so did she. Neither one of them is responsible for this murder. Lisa had problems BEFORE she met Johnny."

Yes, and Maytee believes that the Administrator of the page wrote the leading story/article but she didn't the article is from Jan Valez Mitchell's War on Women page.

(02-20-2011, 05:53 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: This was a comment on the new page, concerning Johnny's involvement in gangs and the robbery. Apparently, this is a cousin of his as she references Maytee to be her aunt in another comment.

"Im sorry but Johnny was NEVER in a gang a day in his life!! Yea maybe he was into some drugs but LISA WAS TOO! and he never once had a weapon a day in his life! And no he was no in prison for armed robbery! He was in a car with 3 other peop...le and ONE PERSON WHO WAS NOT JOHNNY got out and robbed someone and they ALL went to jail for it!! WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE. Johnny and Lisa hung out with ALL the same people. And if Johnny knew these people so did she. Neither one of them is responsible for this murder. Lisa had problems BEFORE she met Johnny."

No gang? Fine.
No armed robbery? Fine.
No weapons? Fine.

But what about drug dealing? What about digital scales, lighters, baggies? Associate with junkies and dealers then throw in the money factor, and you've got a robbery/killing waiting to happen.

(02-20-2011, 05:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: This was posted at another site I go to for updates:
TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH!

1^ST. PERSON:
I was just told to be careful and to keep my doors locked because the police have a suspect that lives a few streets away. They questioned the neighbors as to when they last saw him and said he is a suspect in a double homicide. They have been there several times to arrest him and he has not been home. I can't believe this! I was just told to be careful and keep my doors locked 2 weeks ago because there was a murder suspect a few streets away. The next thing I knew the area was swarming with undercover agents and dogs..... They arrested the man that shot and killed his boss from that fork lift company that very evening!

2N PERSON:
sounds like you need to move

1^ST PERSON:
Believe me the thought has crossed my mind more than once. I've lived here for four years and during this time it's been very peaceful. It's just been the last few weeks that it's gotten a little crazy. Someone busted the neighbors door in a few weeks ago at 8 in the evening. I heard the noise. It sounded like a car crash it was so loud. She was in bed(she has to get up early) and came out yelling "What the hell" It scared them and they took off.. She doesn't own any modern eletronics and has a 15 yr old tv. She said she's going to put a sign up that says if you want my tv just ask... Don't break my door. How Sad!!!

2^ND PERSON:
Adding. if you're referring to the suspect in the Clarke, Straub murders, what are the initials of the suspect in question, if you don't mind my asking?

1^ST PERSON:
I was told that it is concerning the murder of Lisa and Johnny. I have no idea of what his initials are. I don't believe the neighbors know him personally. From what I was told he knows he's a suspect and has been hiding out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that if this guy has anything to do with the case they'll find him soon.

WOW, I WONDER IF THIS IS TRUE???

who knows???? Maybe that's how the rumor of an arrest, got put 'out there' the other day ?? Interesting!

(02-20-2011, 05:58 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: I think the only thing Maytee is guilty of here is being a caring mother who is alarmed at the possibility of what had happened to her son. I don't see any harmful intent or complicity in her actions. She is really at a disadvantage as this unfolds and wants answers and is hoping to find her son is alright. She knows he runs in dangerous circles and participates in dangerous activities. I listen to the 911 tapes and I hear her. She is a victim of the unfolding circumstances...IMO_

I agree with you, zero. Plus Maytee didn't have all the facts when she spoke to 911 and in her desperation to get action she was telling them a combination of what she'd heard and what she thought she'd heard, along with what she feared.

(02-20-2011, 05:44 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: My apologies if this has already been discussed and answered....

I am really curious as to why LE is stating that the couple was murdered between 1am-4am.

Tiffany was supposedly on the phone around 11pm when things began to happen. So, does this mean that they are discrediting Tiffany's timeline, or do they believe the killers were there for 2+ hours before killing Lisa and Johnny??

Also, I believe the bodies were discovered at 3:50am, and were already cold to the touch.

I'm just confused as to why the possible time of death begins at 1am instead of 11pm.

Maytee tells 911 Johnny is cold and stiff to the touch. That means they would've been dead closer to 11pm. And that means the intruders came right in and let the killing begin...

(02-20-2011, 05:47 PM)Methusala Wrote: The following exchange appears on TW's FB wall:

TW: i pay no mind 2 the ignorance that is goin on..so go somewhere else wyt it .i aint got tyme for dis lame shyt.get it together people foreal..
February 16 at 6:03pm



XXX XXX XXX: I'm very very proud of you! February 16 at 9:05pm

I'm wondering - What is it that TW did that this person in N. Carolina is so very very proud of her for?

Was it for appearing on Mock and answering questions?

Or what?

I have no idea!