(02-20-2011, 07:10 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:53 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:23 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:18 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:12 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote: This is from the Open Discussion page:

JC and LS Case Open Discussion
What do you think about someone who has an extensive criminal record setting up a reward fund? [TC]

Attached to it are 69 comments although it appears many of those comments were deleted. Maytee announced that she would be setting up a reward fund & from what I get from reading the comments this was directed at Maytees criminal background although the Admin of the page says more than once that she hasn't said any names.

This makes me really sad. People who attack other people at their weakest point... and for what? What does admin have to gain from this? It's just really really sad to me.

i would be willing to bet that it's the Facebook Nazi working as the administrator of this new page... i definitely feel like she's cruelly baiting her just for a reaction which i find mean. makes me feel bad for my comments about thinking maytee is a nutter etc on this forum.

It is the Facebook Nazi, she openly admitted that she was starting this new page. It's suppose to be open discussion but I see she's still deleting peoples comments when they don't jive with her opinions. And I agree, I think she's purposely starting topics that will incite anger. I would be pissed off as well if I were grieving for my child & in that most raw time in my life I had to deal with the Facebook Nazi.

I can understand why Maytee is going ape shit over this....I'd probably do the same

I don't know, Belle. I can't even imagine how I'd react if my son was murdered, & especially the way Johnny & Lisa were, but I honestly THINK I wouldn't be on the internet at all. I think I'd be a crumbling idiot, mess, piled up in the bed, not wanting to get up. O/T - my son almost died, a few years back, & the last place I wanted to be, was on the internet. Stayed away for many days, obsessing over the situation, in my head. I understand it's completely different, & Maytee is certainly nothing like me, but I find it wild, she gets online & 'talks' the way she does. I can't imagine giving the time of day, to a Facebook page, if I were her... just sayin, lol

Yeah, I defint. wouldn't be all over Facebook and crap!, but I can totally understand her anger against the Admin. for the "Justice" page, she is such an unfeeling, callous bitch. I mean, the woman lost her son in the most tragic way for Christs' sake. The Admin. could just ignore the comments and go about her way, but she chooses to keep pouring salt (or acid lol) on the wounds....I mean have a heart for crying out loud. Be a decent human being. To me, being a decent feeling human being to another human being whose CHILD was just slaughtered is the only way to go....EVEN if the parent of the murdered child is a nutcase, a drug addict, a gangbanger. See what happens when you're raised by a social worker and an art teacher??!! lmfao

(02-20-2011, 07:21 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:10 PM)JustSayin... Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:56 PM)Jane Wrote: Lisa lived in rich ville where she was able to pull the wool over her parents EYES! You are a cunt and will rot in hell for what you are doing to ONE family, while the other is sitting there BELIEVING that lisa's exboyfriend and friends arent SUSPECTS.

from the facebook page Injustice- Lisa Straub, above..

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...5756296730

So maybe someone knows, or suspects that the Straub's aren't focused on Lisa's ex, & friends ?? Sounds that way, huh? Lisa living in "rich ville where she was able to pull the wool over her parents EYES!" .... WTF?

The Straub's are a nurse and truck driver. They were aware of their daughters problems. It is just well known that all the kids from Johnny's circle were talking about the non existing safe with a $100,000 in it. I don't know why he would make that up. For some reason he just felt compelled to brag about his living there, and embellished it.

If it's true he bragged about a non-existent safe, that's really, really, really sad

Sad, but he could have been thinking it would help him professionally, as in selling. If you have access to some serious cash, you are taken more seriously as a buyer. He could've been bragging in order to bump up business, if you know what I mean.

(02-20-2011, 07:16 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: Lisa Straub - Injustice
Just a heads up. I NEVER ban or delete posts. That is my number one rule. You say vulgar stuff on my page, I leave it. I have to warn the abusers, that every single comment is being screen shot and will be placed on this group's photo album. So, if you are willing to threat the administrators of this group, or make defamation comments, don't think you can delete your comment after. I screen shot everything.
7 minutes ago

Screen shot THIS bitch!

(02-20-2011, 06:59 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:47 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: Is it just me or does it appear that the crime was interrupted?

As in, lots of materials and evidence left behind. If they strangled Lisa with the pink and black pants, why not take them with you and burn them? Seems they would've left behind way less evidence if they could've.

Also, the fact that valuables were left behind might suggest that the crime was interrupted or cut short.

I have read in a few places now (including the search warrant article) that the pants were found UNDER her neck/head. Not around.
This is why I think the pants were just something Lisa was changing into when the attack happened. I think the ligature marks around the neck that were found was from the tape being tightly bound around her neck, and her maybe struggling to get free/thrashing, etc. :( Dear God I hope they had the comfort of loved ones/angels by their sides and minds when they went.

that's all I've read too, Belle. "under" her head/neck. Not around. I also agree with you; I think she was getting ready to change clothes, when the attack started. I can't even imagine what was going on in their minds, during all of this.

:B

(02-20-2011, 07:27 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:16 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: Lisa Straub - Injustice
Just a heads up. I NEVER ban or delete posts. That is my number one rule. You say vulgar stuff on my page, I leave it. I have to warn the abusers, that every single comment is being screen shot and will be placed on this group's photo album. So, if you are willing to threat the administrators of this group, or make defamation comments, don't think you can delete your comment after. I screen shot everything.
7 minutes ago

Screen shot THIS bitch!
BBBB

(02-20-2011, 07:25 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:10 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:53 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:23 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:18 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote: i would be willing to bet that it's the Facebook Nazi working as the administrator of this new page... i definitely feel like she's cruelly baiting her just for a reaction which i find mean. makes me feel bad for my comments about thinking maytee is a nutter etc on this forum.

It is the Facebook Nazi, she openly admitted that she was starting this new page. It's suppose to be open discussion but I see she's still deleting peoples comments when they don't jive with her opinions. And I agree, I think she's purposely starting topics that will incite anger. I would be pissed off as well if I were grieving for my child & in that most raw time in my life I had to deal with the Facebook Nazi.

I can understand why Maytee is going ape shit over this....I'd probably do the same

I don't know, Belle. I can't even imagine how I'd react if my son was murdered, & especially the way Johnny & Lisa were, but I honestly THINK I wouldn't be on the internet at all. I think I'd be a crumbling idiot, mess, piled up in the bed, not wanting to get up. O/T - my son almost died, a few years back, & the last place I wanted to be, was on the internet. Stayed away for many days, obsessing over the situation, in my head. I understand it's completely different, & Maytee is certainly nothing like me, but I find it wild, she gets online & 'talks' the way she does. I can't imagine giving the time of day, to a Facebook page, if I were her... just sayin, lol

Yeah, I defint. wouldn't be all over Facebook and crap!, but I can totally understand her anger against the Admin. for the "Justice" page, she is such an unfeeling, callous bitch. I mean, the woman lost her son in the most tragic way for Christs' sake. The Admin. could just ignore the comments and go about her way, but she chooses to keep pouring salt (or acid lol) on the wounds....I mean have a heart for crying out loud. Be a decent human being. To me, being a decent feeling human being to another human being whose CHILD was just slaughtered is the only way to go....EVEN if the parent of the murdered child is a nutcase, a drug addict, a gangbanger. See what happens when you're raised by a social worker and an art teacher??!! lmfao

Perhaps she has to keep a tab on how close the pundits might be getting to the truth.

(02-20-2011, 07:23 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:20 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:05 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:02 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: Dr. Patrick said his office could not pinpoint a time of death, although it appears both died within six hours of being found.

Not to slam the coroner but, I could have given that exact same answer without even seeing the bodies.

Yes...Vague isn't it....but I put it out there as statements are posted questioning the original and equally vague TOD as 1AM- to 4AM. The more recent "6 hours before being found" actually allows for the possibility of TOD before 11pm and makes speculation of the entire cronology which is based alot on TWs statements come into question. Especially the 11pm impression that LS and JC were alive and on the phone so if someone needs an alibi here it is....If the killer perpetrated the crime between 10-11pm and establishes his where abouts at 11pm. he has an alibi.....thanks to the belief we all all working under...that 11pm phone call.

It is accurate because Lisa was at work until 11pm. Johnny picked her up from work when her shift was over and they went to Lisa's house.

Do we know if there were any other occupants in the car when Johnny picked up Lisa?

Maytee wrote on the RIP Johnny Page

RIP Johnny You people on that mock forum are low life pathetic skum poor excuses for human life how dare you say that me and my son dont get along we are best friends and always have been...how dare you try to blame our family or johnny for what these evil demons did to him and lisa you people disgust me i want to vomit all you p...eople dont know anything what you can do is do the world a favor and choke on your evil tongues

(02-20-2011, 07:25 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 07:10 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:53 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:23 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 06:18 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote: i would be willing to bet that it's the Facebook Nazi working as the administrator of this new page... i definitely feel like she's cruelly baiting her just for a reaction which i find mean. makes me feel bad for my comments about thinking maytee is a nutter etc on this forum.

It is the Facebook Nazi, she openly admitted that she was starting this new page. It's suppose to be open discussion but I see she's still deleting peoples comments when they don't jive with her opinions. And I agree, I think she's purposely starting topics that will incite anger. I would be pissed off as well if I were grieving for my child & in that most raw time in my life I had to deal with the Facebook Nazi.

I can understand why Maytee is going ape shit over this....I'd probably do the same

I don't know, Belle. I can't even imagine how I'd react if my son was murdered, & especially the way Johnny & Lisa were, but I honestly THINK I wouldn't be on the internet at all. I think I'd be a crumbling idiot, mess, piled up in the bed, not wanting to get up. O/T - my son almost died, a few years back, & the last place I wanted to be, was on the internet. Stayed away for many days, obsessing over the situation, in my head. I understand it's completely different, & Maytee is certainly nothing like me, but I find it wild, she gets online & 'talks' the way she does. I can't imagine giving the time of day, to a Facebook page, if I were her... just sayin, lol

Yeah, I defint. wouldn't be all over Facebook and crap!, but I can totally understand her anger against the Admin. for the "Justice" page, she is such an unfeeling, callous bitch. I mean, the woman lost her son in the most tragic way for Christs' sake. The Admin. could just ignore the comments and go about her way, but she chooses to keep pouring salt (or acid lol) on the wounds....I mean have a heart for crying out loud. Be a decent human being. To me, being a decent feeling human being to another human being whose CHILD was just slaughtered is the only way to go....EVEN if the parent of the murdered child is a nutcase, a drug addict, a gangbanger. See what happens when you're raised by a social worker and an art teacher??!! lmfao

aaaah, so THAT's it! LOL, j/k ... It just amazes me how admin for those pages, keeps going on & on with the different pages, I'll admit. It's as if they're having a good time, doing so... or what???? I'd have given up, early on, & closed the FB down, tight, lol ... Just seems like such a hassle, OR the person literally has nothing else to do. Wild!

there's been much sympathy here for maytee as well.

(02-20-2011, 07:33 PM)Free_Dom Wrote: Maytee wrote on the RIP Johnny Page

RIP Johnny You people on that mock forum are low life pathetic skum poor excuses for human life how dare you say that me and my son dont get along we are best friends and always have been...how dare you try to blame our family or johnny for what these evil demons did to him and lisa you people disgust me i want to vomit all you p...eople dont know anything what you can do is do the world a favor and choke on your evil tongues

Put a sock in it, Maytee. I don't have the same kind of pity for you that others have & I have no problem rippin' you a new one.

(02-20-2011, 05:40 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: And the drama continues.....


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...5756296730

Lisa Straub - Injustice A major investigation into why and who killed Lisa Straub and Johnny Clarke in Springfield township is underway. Investigators discovered white baggie pieces, a light blue lighter and a Ziploc bag on the kitchen floor. In the home of Lisa Straub on various kitchen countertops a digital scale, two knives and central security documents were found.

The list of collected evidence goes on, including a key with 5-4-4 stamped on it under the body of Lisa Straub. The items were seized -- taken as evidence -- during a search of the home owned by Lisa Straub's parents. Throughout the house, they gathered DNA swabs.

They also found a key with 5-4-4 stamped on it under the body of Lisa Straub. The warrant also describes black/pink interband pants under Straub's neck. Her wrists were taped together, but not her ankles. Johnny Clarke's ankles were taped up.

That's one of many details investigators are trying to sort through in the search for a killer or killers. Johny Clarke has a troubled past including time spent in prison. As prayers go out to the family of Johnny, the family is probaly asking themselves if they could have done something to prevent this. Clarke’s mother certainly has not lived her life as a good example for her son. As speculation surrounds who John Clarke may have told the house’s owners were out of town, one has to wonder, should it also be asked who his mother could have told?
about an hour ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You fucking evil bitch iam the best mom any son could want n proud they proud to have i did everything for my boys. you stupid ignorant cunt iam very proud of my sons and you are a satanic demon and dont know what the fuck your talking about you evil piece of trash karma is on her way to you and i hope you choke on your tongue you piece of shit worthless excuse for life it should be people like you killed and not our kids ypu pathetic skum i wish you ill will watch how karma devours you
52 minutes ago

Kassa Nova Your obviously a dumb ass bitch who knows nothing about johnny. Lisa lived in rich ville where she was able to pull the wool over her parents EYES! You are a cunt and will rot in hell for what you are doing to ONE family, while the other is sitting there BELIEVING that lisa's exboyfriend and friends arent SUSPECTS.
42 minutes ago

Bre Michelle Prowell WOAH!!! Im so sick of this "troubled past of Johnnys" he made a bad choice in WHO he hung out with and that got him into trouble he did nothing!!! He didn't have a "troubled past" i grew up with him and ALLL OF OUR PARENTS broke their backs...
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40 minutes ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She keeps deleting some of my stuff too
35 minutes ago

Bre Michelle Prowell I'm sick of this shit! It's so rude and heartless. You people do begging u can to drive a grieving family insane and hurt them and bash the victim and his parents?
33 minutes ago

Tracey Schuette this shit is fuckin ridiculous ! we all have a fucking past ! and weve all done dumb ass shit in our lives ITS CALLED LIFE ! how dare you even try to say what kind of mother maytee is ! you dont kno 1 fucking thing about her. and why the f...
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6 minutes ago


Posting it before it's deleted.

I find it strange that Maytee says "choke on your tongue"

Hi this is my first time posting, but I have been reading the post for days.I am a Springfield resident and have 2 kids One graduated with Lisa. One thing I want to clear up is Springfield is not this thug free quaint little town everybody says it is. We have our share of drug dealers and thugs. We have low income apartments here named Oakwood nickname Cokewood. They are full of drugs. We have little rich kids that I know for fact deal drugs and thier lawyer parents get them out of the shit. Alot of ppl around here let their kids run wild and do whatever they want to do.This is not a rich area mostly middle class. Just wanted to clear that up for the ppl who are not familiar with Holland/Springfield. The one thing that makes me think that TW is involved is When the perps confronted Johnny he was on the phone wouldnt they be worried that the person on the other end of the phone would call the police right away??? It dosent seem to me like they were in that big of a hurry. Unless they knew who was on the other end. JMO.

(02-20-2011, 07:36 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: there's been much sympathy here for maytee as well.

Very True LC...many of us feel awful for what she is going through, no matter the circumstances.

welcome SayWhat123 ~~

(02-20-2011, 07:33 PM)Free_Dom Wrote: Maytee wrote on the RIP Johnny Page

RIP Johnny You people on that mock forum are low life pathetic skum poor excuses for human life how dare you say that me and my son dont get along we are best friends and always have been...how dare you try to blame our family or johnny for what these evil demons did to him and lisa you people disgust me i want to vomit all you p...eople dont know anything what you can do is do the world a favor and choke on your evil tongues

damn!

The Benefit this week is for LISA. No one else.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab=3#!...1001088310

From FOX News
The family of Ms. Straub is asking you to donate to the Lisa Straub Benefit fund, which is accepting donations at any Fifth Third Bank branch.

In addition, a benefit for Ms. Straub will be held Thursday, Feb. 24, at TGI Friday's, Bernath Parkway and Airport Highway. The benefit runs from 12-10 p.m. Money raised from the benefit will be donated to the reward fund.

If you have any information that could assist detectives with this case you are asked to call Crimestopper at 49-255-1111. You can remain anonymous.

Please respect this family.

Haven't heard much from J's mom for a couple days....the one that encouraged Tiff to answer questions..., the one that has been very supportive of Maytee on FB, etc. wonder where she went?

(02-20-2011, 07:39 PM)KarmaK Wrote:

(02-20-2011, 05:40 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: And the drama continues.....


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lisa-Strau...5756296730

Lisa Straub - Injustice A major investigation into why and who killed Lisa Straub and Johnny Clarke in Springfield township is underway. Investigators discovered white baggie pieces, a light blue lighter and a Ziploc bag on the kitchen floor. In the home of Lisa Straub on various kitchen countertops a digital scale, two knives and central security documents were found.

The list of collected evidence goes on, including a key with 5-4-4 stamped on it under the body of Lisa Straub. The items were seized -- taken as evidence -- during a search of the home owned by Lisa Straub's parents. Throughout the house, they gathered DNA swabs.

They also found a key with 5-4-4 stamped on it under the body of Lisa Straub. The warrant also describes black/pink interband pants under Straub's neck. Her wrists were taped together, but not her ankles. Johnny Clarke's ankles were taped up.

That's one of many details investigators are trying to sort through in the search for a killer or killers. Johny Clarke has a troubled past including time spent in prison. As prayers go out to the family of Johnny, the family is probaly asking themselves if they could have done something to prevent this. Clarke’s mother certainly has not lived her life as a good example for her son. As speculation surrounds who John Clarke may have told the house’s owners were out of town, one has to wonder, should it also be asked who his mother could have told?
about an hour ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You fucking evil bitch iam the best mom any son could want n proud they proud to have i did everything for my boys. you stupid ignorant cunt iam very proud of my sons and you are a satanic demon and dont know what the fuck your talking about you evil piece of trash karma is on her way to you and i hope you choke on your tongue you piece of shit worthless excuse for life it should be people like you killed and not our kids ypu pathetic skum i wish you ill will watch how karma devours you
52 minutes ago

Kassa Nova Your obviously a dumb ass bitch who knows nothing about johnny. Lisa lived in rich ville where she was able to pull the wool over her parents EYES! You are a cunt and will rot in hell for what you are doing to ONE family, while the other is sitting there BELIEVING that lisa's exboyfriend and friends arent SUSPECTS.
42 minutes ago

Bre Michelle Prowell WOAH!!! Im so sick of this "troubled past of Johnnys" he made a bad choice in WHO he hung out with and that got him into trouble he did nothing!!! He didn't have a "troubled past" i grew up with him and ALLL OF OUR PARENTS broke their backs...
See More
40 minutes ago

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She keeps deleting some of my stuff too
35 minutes ago

Bre Michelle Prowell I'm sick of this shit! It's so rude and heartless. You people do begging u can to drive a grieving family insane and hurt them and bash the victim and his parents?
33 minutes ago

Tracey Schuette this shit is fuckin ridiculous ! we all have a fucking past ! and weve all done dumb ass shit in our lives ITS CALLED LIFE ! how dare you even try to say what kind of mother maytee is ! you dont kno 1 fucking thing about her. and why the f...
See More
6 minutes ago


Posting it before it's deleted.

I find it strange that Maytee says "choke on your tongue"

NO SHIT!! I wondered if anyone else noticed it...My mind wanders, about every little comment/word, from her mouth, I wasn't sure if I'd sound crazy, lol