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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-01-2011, 11:09 PM)Jane Wrote: Or maybe he actually stole somone else's drugs, like a nice sized/for resale stash. If that's the case, the person he stole from isn't going to contact LE about the theft.

Thats what I think. Why else would they be looking in the airducts ( removing the vent covers) sounds like a good place for Johnny to hide the drugs, in case the ppl he stole them from come looking for the drugs. Looks like they found the drugs. Johnny disrespected somebody because these ppl were mighty pissed off to do what they did. Punching holes in the wall, tearing the house up. Either they were looking for something (a safe). Or they were pissed off that somebody took something from them.
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(03-02-2011, 12:21 AM)kitty1 Wrote: Does anyone else find it odd that Maytee hasn't (to my knowledge) refuted any of what Sgt. Schiavone said today?
"Sgt. Schiavone said he believes the DRUG-RELATED crime was a professional "hit" INSTIGATED BY THE ACTION OF THE VICTIMS" I would have expected her to come to her "babiboi's" defense and claim that he wasn't involved in drugs and that Johnny in no way instigated this vicious murder. But then again has she ever really denied his involvement with drugs? Yes she refused to discuss his criminal record on JVM , but has she ever defended him or Lisa in regards to drug use? I can't remember. My brain is starting to get fried from all this.

I SOOO AGREE!!! Cheers
she's been blowin up the world wide web for the past month...but nothing in response to the somewhat derogitory report from the sgt...... hmmmm....
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(03-02-2011, 12:08 AM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: To "kitty1"....I really like your new AV

Thanks alot! I finally figured out how to get a good one! That's me! I wish!
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(03-02-2011, 12:15 AM)shitstorm Wrote: Mr. Stevens and other gang members planned to burglarize Mr. Mamadou Barry, a Warehouse owner and business associate of Mr. Steven’s father. But when the African businessman returned home unexpectedly that November in 2005, the defendants hog-tied, handcuffed, duck taped, and suffocated (with a plastic bag over his head) him and left his body inside the bathtub of his West End apartment.





Not unheard of.

These dumb ass lil gang bangers probably searched the internet "How do Gang members kill ppl who disrespect them" LOL
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"PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE"..........Let there be news tomorrow! Good night Mockers.
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(03-02-2011, 12:27 AM)SayWhat123 Wrote: Thats what I think. Why else would they be looking in the airducts ( removing the vent covers) sounds like a good place for Johnny to hide the drugs, in case the ppl he stole them from come looking for the drugs. Looks like they found the drugs. Johnny disrespected somebody because these ppl were mighty pissed off to do what they did. Punching holes in the wall, tearing the house up. Either they were looking for something (a safe). Or they were pissed off that somebody took something from them.

oh yeah, I believe they got the drugs too!

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Good night all. My brain is on overload. I want answers!!!
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(03-01-2011, 10:56 PM)DivineDragon Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 10:49 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 10:42 PM)Adub Wrote: [quote='ZEROSPHERES' pid='138662' dateline='1299033290']
[quote='truth be told' pid='138650' dateline='1299032223']
John Sr. was busted for pot (a lot of it!)...served nearly 5 years. Maytee should have been sitting in a cell herself because she was really the kingpin. Finding info about John Sr. is a bit tricky because of the fact that he was sentenced to a Federal prison. Federal prisons are harder to get info. on prisoners.

I thinking that "dismissed because the police had the wrong man" may be whats is being view with suspicion and futhering the belief by "some" that he had a streak of the Benedict Arnold in him.

Perhaps you meant to use "viewed" instead of "view" above?

I really dont understand this new found side thread of correcting everyones spelling and choice of words esp when its obvious what they meant. Use
either word and it doesnt change the meaning of her statement.
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
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(03-02-2011, 12:15 AM)shitstorm Wrote: http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-atlanta...kidnapping

Not unheard of.

definately not..



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We do not KNOW, as of yet, whether BC and MM's arrest out of Kansas had anything to do with this case.

Regarding MM:
I believe the US Marshalls were looking for him because he left the State on OR Bond with 2 Felony Charges pending in Lucas County
*See below

COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1)THEFT F5
2 (D -1)FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SIGNAL OF A POLICE OFFICER F3
*I removed his name to protect his privacy

He was OR'd, the cases were continued several times, set for a Pre-Trial on 112 and he FTA'd...failed to appear....A warrant was issued on 1/14, bond was THEN set at $20,000 no 10%, the warrant was cancelled on 223 and, his pre-trial is set for 32 @ 9 a.m. Go to the big old courthouse downtown at 700 Adams and you can see him in Judge Cook's courtroom. Smiley_emoticons_smile

I know for a FACT that Marshall's go after people for this kind of charge, including across state lines....actually they contact the Marshall's office in that state. Not only have I had a probation violator hiding under my porch that a US Marshall caught, I work in LE.
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Anybody who has any close association with Maytee or has known her for a long time....has seen first hand the lifestyle she lives. It is a fact that she has gotten younger teens involved in doing crimes while she just sat back and played "dictator." Maytee has sold drugs of one sort of another practically her whole life. Pot, crack, and then onto pills. When I say she holds the truth. I mean "come on, We aren't dumb." We know that she knows more than she is saying to cops, she "knew" that Johnny and Lisa were inside of the house an needed to be found by someone other than herself. By not coming truthful with police this can easily put her right in the center of an active double murder scene. I think that intelligent folks will soon begin to see this twisted horrible story unfold completely differently than they anticipated.


IN YOUR OPINION. LC

read the crime forum rules:

http://mockforums.net/thread-4781.html
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(03-01-2011, 11:57 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 11:51 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 11:30 PM)fabulous Wrote: LIsa's FB page is gone. RIP LIsa!

it's still there for me

It was taken down a few days ago? I just checked .It is not there?

Still there for me too, although its just the info page as I was not on
her friends list.
Your avatar...that chick is wearing GREAT shoes.
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
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(03-02-2011, 01:19 AM)jenjen Wrote: We do not KNOW, as of yet, whether BC and MM's arrest out of Kansas had anything to do with this case.

Regarding MM:
I believe the US Marshalls were looking for him because he left the State on OR Bond with 2 Felony Charges pending in Lucas County
*See below

COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1)THEFT F5
2 (D -1)FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SIGNAL OF A POLICE OFFICER F3
*I removed his name to protect his privacy

He was OR'd, the cases were continued several times, set for a Pre-Trial on 112 and he FTA'd...failed to appear....A warrant was issued on 1/14, bond was THEN set at $20,000 no 10%, the warrant was cancelled on 223 and, his pre-trial is set for 32 @ 9 a.m. Go to the big old courthouse downtown at 700 Adams and you can see him in Judge Cook's courtroom. Smiley_emoticons_smile

I know for a FACT that Marshall's go after people for this kind of charge, including across state lines....actually they contact the Marshall's office in that state. Not only have I had a probation violator hiding under my porch that a US Marshall caught, I work in LE.

Thank you. I was wondering why the US Marshal would go after him.
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(03-02-2011, 01:20 AM)truth be told Wrote: Anybody who has any close association with Maytee or has known her for a long time....has seen first hand the lifestyle she lives. It is a fact that she has gotten younger teens involved in doing crimes while she just sat back and played "dictator." Maytee has sold drugs of one sort of another practically her whole life. Pot, crack, and then onto pills. When I say she holds the truth. I mean "come on, We aren't dumb." We know that she knows more than she is saying to cops, she "knew" that Johnny and Lisa were inside of the house an needed to be found by someone other than herself. By not coming truthful with police this can easily put her right in the center of an active double murder scene. I think that intelligent folks will soon begin to see this twisted horrible story unfold completely differently than they anticipated.

I work with someone that knows her, and he's saying the same thing.
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(03-02-2011, 01:20 AM)truth be told Wrote: Anybody who has any close association with Maytee or has known her for a long time....has seen first hand the lifestyle she lives. It is a fact that she has gotten younger teens involved in doing crimes while she just sat back and played "dictator." Maytee has sold drugs of one sort of another practically her whole life. Pot, crack, and then onto pills. When I say she holds the truth. I mean "come on, We aren't dumb." We know that she knows more than she is saying to cops, she "knew" that Johnny and Lisa were inside of the house an needed to be found by someone other than herself. By not coming truthful with police this can easily put her right in the center of an active double murder scene. I think that intelligent folks will soon begin to see this twisted horrible story unfold completely differently than they anticipated.


Okay. You keep saying these things. Get specific. Say what you have WITNESSED. I hope you know you're making serious allegations.
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So much to digest today...Im pretty sure Im looking
at another sleepless night unless I pop a lunesta.
Yeah, Im hard core like that, yo.
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
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Hello Mockers!!! First time posting. I been following for some time and have spoke with a couple of you. All that talk of an arrest had my heart pumping! This case has had my head spinning. To those of you who have been faithfully investigating this must be absolute torture! I have seen plenty of theories here and was wondering for those who believe that it was older suspects if you had anyone in mind or heard of anything to believe this? Also if you think it would be older relatives of the "main characters" excuding the direct involvement of Maytee/John Sr. theories?
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(03-02-2011, 02:46 AM)BellaMia Wrote: Hello Mockers!!! First time posting. I been following for some time and have spoke with a couple of you. All that talk of an arrest had my heart pumping! This case has had my head spinning. To those of you who have been faithfully investigating this must be absolute torture! I have seen plenty of theories here and was wondering for those who believe that it was older suspects if you had anyone in mind or heard of anything to believe this? Also if you think it would be older relatives of the "main characters" excuding the direct involvement of Maytee/John Sr. theories?

Welcome BellaMia
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Hi, BellaMia. I don't have a theory about who. My feeling about the killers being older was because I felt it would take a more hardened criminal to do what they did, take that kind of time, and be so cool headed about it. I figure they spent a fair amount of time in that house. I think someone younger and more inexperienced would kill and run, probably with a gun, leaving doors open as they fled.
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Thanks!Smiley_emoticons_biggrin I agree with that also. I was thinking maybe the local people were not sharing openly on that subject so i thought i would just ask. I know a few people that just dont want to talk about this case or share what they know. They are either worried about getting dragged into the he said she said of it or the long term drama that might be attached for spreading rumor and it turn out to be nothing. I am from Toledo and know people who know people of course but nothing concrete. I have been following for awhile now but i thought it would be best if i caught up befor i got into the discussion. But i do like having something new to think about/toss around with the older theory something new. I wonder if there is anything out there to go on besides the nature being to "mature" for lack of a better word. I am tired and tend to draw blanks and this point haha.
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