(03-30-2011, 03:14 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 03:07 AM)d505 Wrote: Anyone want to make a guess on the date that the first suspect is charged and arrested for the murders?

ON APRIL FOOLS

JsMom - I really laughed at your answer!! First you laugh but, then you cry because its been 2 months now.
Did you create the finger symbol yourself?

(03-30-2011, 02:55 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 03:14 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 03:07 AM)d505 Wrote: Anyone want to make a guess on the date that the first suspect is charged and arrested for the murders?

ON APRIL FOOLS

JsMom - I really laughed at your answer!! First you laugh but, then you cry because its been 2 months now.
Did you create the finger symbol yourself?

No I did not make the finger symbol just thought in fit in well with the mock forums....and I was serious about April Fools

(03-30-2011, 01:38 PM)Adub Wrote: it does speak to the character of both of them that they go on and on and on. Ugly comes to mind.

God doesn't like ugly.

Fabulous, Post #14099 I don't know him Fabulous, I don't think his tattoo is a joke and mocking God - these tattoos I heard were painful and cost money! It made my day seeing the Proverb - it was his choice - I thought it was a tattoo for the better! That is all. He doesn't have a criminal record. We know he was in our Military and maybe in the Ohio National Guard.

(03-30-2011, 03:35 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 01:38 PM)Adub Wrote: it does speak to the character of both of them that they go on and on and on. Ugly comes to mind.

God doesn't like ugly.

Having his only begotten son, bloody and hanging from a fucking telephone pole cross wasn't too pretty.

At the best, i think god has the world on ignore.

(03-30-2011, 12:37 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Ive been thinking about TW and her two personalities.
I see this all the time in the high school where I teach.
I have students that you would never know are gang affiliated
and talk just like she types(and more than likely talks like that amongst her fellow
gang bangers). In school and among the educated or "normal society"
they totally transform. They use big words, proper English/grammar and
alot of times, are very smart kids, but lazy with their schoolwork, because
they have to keep up appearances with their peers, or are too busy with that
lifestyle that they dont have time or are too tired to keep up due to the hours they
keep. Because they become so adept at fitting into both worlds, it teaches them to
hone their manipulative skills, and actually become master manipulators at fairly
young ages. …

Your post was so informative that I wish I could have left the entire message in my reply, but of course everyone has no doubt already read it.

I just want to thank you for it. It was enormously informative to me.

I have been wondering how these young gangsta and wannabes act in school and other normal or adult situations. In real life. In civilized society.

I personally find their peer life to be so revolting and disgusting. Your split personality explanation makes perfect sense and is so revealing.

Especially when we are tempted to make the mistake of judging (and sometimes dismissing) their criminal capabilities by how they act around normal people.

(03-30-2011, 12:50 PM)ALWAYSBITCHEN Wrote: be right back people gotta go clean up DOG SHIT off the wall where my grandson thought it was a crayon and make-up..GEES...NO NOTHING THAT I TELL YOU IS A LIE OR MADE UP....WELCOME TO GRANNY'S DAY-CARE...WHERE THEY POOP EM' WE SMELL EM'

Is there some reason why you are posting off-topic comments?
Isn't the length of what we need/want to read to keep up on the case in this forum sufficient to maintain your interest?

(03-30-2011, 03:41 PM)Adub Wrote: Having his only begotten son, bloody and hanging from a fucking telephone pole cross wasn't too pretty.

Was my sarcastic tone lost as it made its way through cyberspace?

(03-30-2011, 03:37 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Fabulous, Post #14099 I don't know him Fabulous, I don't think his tattoo is a joke and mocking God - these tattoos I heard were painful and cost money! It made my day seeing the Proverb - it was his choice - I thought it was a tattoo for the better! That is all. He doesn't have a criminal record. We know he was in our Military and maybe in the Ohio National Guard.

"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. An evil soul producing holy witness Is like a villain with a smiling cheek."

[1596 Shakespeare Merchant of Venice i. iii. 93]

Re: Duchess,

Dang, I was just replying in kind. Hey, where's your butt. i got my lips puckered.

(03-30-2011, 04:05 PM)Adub Wrote: Dang, I was just replying in kind. Hey, where's your but. i got my lips puckered.

(03-30-2011, 03:43 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 12:37 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:

Especially when we are tempted to make the mistake of judging (and sometimes dismissing) their criminal capabilities by how they act around normal people.[/b]

Youre welcome. Im glad I could help...was just musing about it, and realized I have TW's in and out of my classroom all the time. I would never
understand it either, if I didnt see it.
As for how they act/look around normal people, Im sure weve all had that moment, looking at Johnny and Lisa's photos, (and any of the other people's photos weve perused during our investigations) where we thought "theres no way" OR "guilty as charged". Its human nature to judge a book by its cover...and sometimes when you look past the cover you find amazing things inside, and on the flip side, you might find the cover was perfect for the book and you didnt even need to read it. LOL

(03-30-2011, 04:00 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 03:37 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Fabulous, Post #14099 I don't know him Fabulous, I don't think his tattoo is a joke and mocking God - these tattoos I heard were painful and cost money! It made my day seeing the Proverb - it was his choice - I thought it was a tattoo for the better! That is all. He doesn't have a criminal record. We know he was in our Military and maybe in the Ohio National Guard.

"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. An evil soul producing holy witness Is like a villain with a smiling cheek."

[1596 Shakespeare Merchant of Venice i. iii. 93]

We do not know for certain he has an evil soul! MTY was never mentioned by Maytee - some how he has been dragged into this - because of other tattoos and being in our Military. I see fellows all the time with tattoos - some with a cross - I don't stand and think, he has an evil soul. I don't know this fellow, once again I believe, he had the tattoo done for the GOOD!

(03-30-2011, 04:09 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 03:43 PM)Methusala Wrote:

(03-30-2011, 12:37 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:

Especially when we are tempted to make the mistake of judging (and sometimes dismissing) their criminal capabilities by how they act around normal people.[/b]

Youre welcome. Im glad I could help...was just musing about it, and realized I have TW's in and out of my classroom all the time. I would never
understand it either, if I didnt see it.
As for how they act/look around normal people, Im sure weve all had that moment, looking at Johnny and Lisa's photos, (and any of the other people's photos weve perused during our investigations) where we thought "theres no way" OR "guilty as charged". Its human nature to judge a book by its cover...and sometimes when you look past the cover you find amazing things inside, and on the flip side, you might find the cover was perfect for the book and you didnt even need to read it. LOL

I taught for the CalSafe alternative ed program for five years until the program got cut in 2009. It gave teenage mothers an opportunity to finish highschool outside of the mainstream. I loved those young ladies. Still do. And the babies came to class a couple of days a week. Everyone of them came from a hard ass background. And most wanted a better life. What they needed most was a safe, supportive environment to live in. Some have succeeded and some have not.

I still work in alternative ed. I see the gangbanger lifestyle everyday. I am aware of all that it is.

(03-30-2011, 03:41 PM)Adub Wrote: Having his only begotten son, bloody and hanging from a fucking telephone pole cross wasn't too pretty.

At the best, i think god has the world on ignore.

Blasphemy!

Im not sure if anybody ever answered me,But they key that was found under lisa was it ever thought of as being from a locker of some sort like local bowling alley,safety deposit key from a local bank,orif she was taking classes (wich some say she was and some say she wasnt) did they check out to see if it may have came from a locker there,or evensome kinda local gym locker...(jmo)....all this is just so crazy...and yes I know this may have already been ansanswered is "Where did the blod around Lisa come from!!!

(03-30-2011, 04:53 PM)ALWAYSBITCHEN Wrote: Im not sure if anybody ever answered me,But they key that was found under lisa was it ever thought of as being from a locker of some sort like local bowling alley,safety deposit key from a local bank,orif she was taking classes (wich some say she was and some say she wasnt) did they check out to see if it may have came from a locker there,or evensome kinda local gym locker...(jmo)....all this is just so crazy...and yes I know this may have already been ansanswered is "Where did the blod around Lisa come from!!!

Oh DEAR, I must HAVE missed you asking THIS question. The KEY IS a real mystery, isn't it?

And, I hate it when blood doesn't stay inside the skin where it belongs. Lisa's blood must have come partly from the head/face region. I want to know why it was dried if it was wrapped in plastic.

I always stick my paintbrushes in a plastic baggie so the paint does not dry. Thinking that blood and paint is the same sito.

So when did the blood get a chance to dry out?

yw

(03-30-2011, 04:53 PM)ALWAYSBITCHEN Wrote: Im not sure if anybody ever answered me,But they key that was found under lisa was it ever thought of as being from a locker of some sort like local bowling alley,safety deposit key from a local bank,orif she was taking classes (wich some say she was and some say she wasnt) did they check out to see if it may have came from a locker there,or evensome kinda local gym locker...(jmo)....all this is just so crazy...and yes I know this may have already been ansanswered is "Where did the blod around Lisa come from!!!

Have you even took the time to read any of the threads from page1 on??? We have exhausted every avenue possible, I think!!

OPEN UR EYES and go read the whole thread! geez