(05-17-2012, 01:27 PM)Maggot Wrote: In London they pad the streetlights so people texting and walking do not knock themselves out when they smack into them.

That's freaking hilarious!

(05-17-2012, 07:12 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

Quote:IMaDick posted: What if I can show you where this has all been placed in the record, where all of this has been brought up discussed and even voted on in some cases, where some actions have in fact taken the position of or influenced the advancement of some if not all of the things I listed, but rest assured that each thing I listed is desired by certian people in power in our country, those people have a following.
n this post.

Dick, I'm not a "conservative" nor probably a true "liberal"; depends on the issue. I like hearing counter views and sometimes they do provide new perspective. So, I'm gonna bite on your posts from this morning. Educate me about how the following are being propagated by liberals, Obama, or whomever you believe is leading the brigade.

-race wars
-super regulation of business
-eco terrorism
-censorship of the press
-abandonment of free speech
-repealing of the Constitution

(I know your facts regarding BAIPA and surrogate medical decisions were correct even though some called "bullshit"; I took those issues and a few others off your original list; the above 6 are ones that I'm most interested in hearing about from an independent Conservative's standpoint.)

This is a very easy question to answer.

Just use Van Jones as a search for youtube.

once there listen to what he has to say and then see what you can't listen to, I think it will surprise how many errors occure when you click on his youtubes.


All of the above are being championed by him in one form or another.

Van Jones ties directly to the oval office.

(05-18-2012, 10:43 AM)IMaDick Wrote: This is a very easy question to answer.

Just use Van Jones as a search for youtube.

once there listen to what he has to say and then see what you can't listen to, I think it will surprise how many errors occure when you click on his youtubes.


All of the above are being championed by him in one form or another.

Van Jones ties directly to the oval office.

Okay. I actually thought you were offering your takes on the topics, but I'll try to give Van Jones a listen later. Something tells me that some Van Morrison might be in order afterwards; balance.

(05-18-2012, 10:47 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 10:43 AM)IMaDick Wrote: This is a very easy question to answer.

Just use Van Jones as a search for youtube.

once there listen to what he has to say and then see what you can't listen to, I think it will surprise how many errors occure when you click on his youtubes.


All of the above are being championed by him in one form or another.

Van Jones ties directly to the oval office.

Okay. I actually thought you were offering your takes on the topics, but I'll try to give Van Jones a listen later. Something tells me that some Van Morrison might be in order afterwards; balance.

I have takes on the above, each is it's own conversation, Those conversation have to start someplace.

(05-18-2012, 10:56 AM)IMaDick Wrote: I have takes on the above, each is it's own conversation, Those conversation have to start someplace.

Tease! Put out an offer and then throw out requirements before you'll put out. I'll do my part and get back with you, Dick. Better be some amazing fuckin' insight you've got for me, making me work for it and all...

Okay Dick. I'm pretty well-versed on Van Jones now. He's one guy, who formerly worked as a White House "Green Advisor" and whose more radical past dealings and statements have largely been "not supported" by Obama, via public statements. While I admire some of what Mr. Jones has accomplished, some of his comments and past endeavors are indeed shady to me. However, he's not the cause or proof of anything you listed below, imo. He and Glen Beck sure don't see eye to eye though, huh?

I can guess where you're headed with Van Jones being a liberal torch carrier for points 1 and 4 below based on his works and statements; quite an extrapolation if I infer correctly. You're giving Mr. Jones way more power, influence, and ill intent than would I. I'm unclear how you would tie him to points 2, 3 or 6 in any event.

1. race wars
2. super regulation of business
3. eco terrorism
4. censorship of the press
5. abandonment of free speech
6. repealing of the Constitution

It was interesting research and reading anyway. If you really wanna talk about how Obama, liberals, or some other anti-Conservative entities are propagating the problems you list above, I'll look forward to it.

(05-05-2012, 02:23 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: All that money getting cut off hurts the women in that state.

Any particular women, sport, or are you just one of those who toss generalizations as if it were manna?

(05-18-2012, 05:50 PM)Sterling Wrote: Any particular women, sport, or are you just one of those who toss generalizations as if it were manna?

Shhh. He's playing "friend to mankind." The rest of us are evil but he loves all Negroes and anyone he thinks he can beat at arm wrestling.

He is only bothered by white men who get pussy by their looks alone.

(05-17-2012, 09:45 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I prefer hooters.

BTW, how are yours?

Stop thinking of me as a woman Dr. Brewster and start thinking of me as a person!

Because that's what Southwest General is made up of....people.

(05-18-2012, 06:46 PM)aussiefriend Wrote:

(05-17-2012, 09:45 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I prefer hooters.

BTW, how are yours?

Stop thinking of me as a woman Dr. Brewster and start thinking of me as a person!

Because that's what Southwest General is made up of....people.

I suggest you go read the words to Bob Seger's 'Her Strut'.

That'll explain why us men, as much as we admire and respect women professionally, can't get past our carnal instincts.

I'm not sorry, either.

I believe in retroactive abortion all the way up to around Dick's age. I wish his mom did.

(05-18-2012, 05:50 PM)Sterling Wrote:

(05-05-2012, 02:23 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: All that money getting cut off hurts the women in that state.

Any particular women, sport, or are you just one of those who toss generalizations as if it were manna?

Sorry Sterling, you're right. My bad habit. Most women are uninsured, at least imo. PP takes careof 98 percent of the health care needs of those women (in arizona, 4000+ women) who otherwise wouldn't have access to quality medical care. This is beyond abortion, this is about bc, pap smears, mammograms, cancer screening, condoms, family planning, only 2% of funding is "spent" on abortions, more than 2 million pregnancies circumvented last year

(05-18-2012, 07:21 PM)Donovan Wrote: I believe in retroactive abortion all the way up to around Dick's age. I wish his mom did.

Don't worry Donoboy, you will get over it when I say you can.

until then just keep feeling small and powerless.

(05-18-2012, 03:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Okay Dick. I'm pretty well-versed on Van Jones now. He's one guy, who formerly worked as a White House "Green Advisor" and whose more radical past dealings and statements have largely been "not supported" by Obama, via public statements. While I admire some of what Mr. Jones has accomplished, some of his comments and past endeavors are indeed shady to me. However, he's not the cause or proof of anything you listed below, imo. He and Glen Beck sure don't see eye to eye though, huh?

I can guess where you're headed with Van Jones being a liberal torch carrier for points 1 and 4 below based on his works and statements; quite an extrapolation if I infer correctly. You're giving Mr. Jones way more power, influence, and ill intent than would I. I'm unclear how you would tie him to points 2, 3 or 6 in any event.

1. race wars
2. super regulation of business
3. eco terrorism
4. censorship of the press
5. abandonment of free speech
6. repealing of the Constitution

It was interesting research and reading anyway. If you really wanna talk about how Obama, liberals, or some other anti-Conservative entities are propagating the problems you list above, I'll look forward to it.

You obviously didn't find the youtubes that seem to have some kind of error, there are dozens of them.

you also must not have heard his key note address to His eco group where he has declared they will be taking small steps towards control of the economy.

Perhaps things are not as irrelevant as you found them to be and the numbers if you were paying attention just filled in by a few.

(05-18-2012, 11:40 PM)IMaDick Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 03:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Okay Dick. I'm pretty well-versed on Van Jones now. He's one guy, who formerly worked as a White House "Green Advisor" and whose more radical past dealings and statements have largely been "not supported" by Obama, via public statements. While I admire some of what Mr. Jones has accomplished, some of his comments and past endeavors are indeed shady to me. However, he's not the cause or proof of anything you listed below, imo. He and Glen Beck sure don't see eye to eye though, huh?

I can guess where you're headed with Van Jones being a liberal torch carrier for points 1 and 4 below based on his works and statements; quite an extrapolation if I infer correctly. You're giving Mr. Jones way more power, influence, and ill intent than would I. I'm unclear how you would tie him to points 2, 3 or 6 in any event.

1. race wars
2. super regulation of business
3. eco terrorism
4. censorship of the press
5. abandonment of free speech
6. repealing of the Constitution

It was interesting research and reading anyway. If you really wanna talk about how Obama, liberals, or some other anti-Conservative entities are propagating the problems you list above, I'll look forward to it.

You obviously didn't find the youtubes that seem to have some kind of error, there are dozens of them.

you also must not have heard his key note address to His eco group where he has declared they will be taking small steps towards control of the economy.

Perhaps things are not as irrelevant as you found them to be and the numbers if you were paying attention just filled in by a few.

You're leading me on a wild goose chase, Dick. You're telling me to take one man's words and actions and interpret them the way you do. I read, I watched, I interpreted with my mind. You're teasing me. You tell me how he supports your assertions. You threw it out there. I was interested enough to bite and research. Give it to me.

(05-18-2012, 11:45 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 11:40 PM)IMaDick Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 03:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Okay Dick. I'm pretty well-versed on Van Jones now. He's one guy, who formerly worked as a White House "Green Advisor" and whose more radical past dealings and statements have largely been "not supported" by Obama, via public statements. While I admire some of what Mr. Jones has accomplished, some of his comments and past endeavors are indeed shady to me. However, he's not the cause or proof of anything you listed below, imo. He and Glen Beck sure don't see eye to eye though, huh?

I can guess where you're headed with Van Jones being a liberal torch carrier for points 1 and 4 below based on his works and statements; quite an extrapolation if I infer correctly. You're giving Mr. Jones way more power, influence, and ill intent than would I. I'm unclear how you would tie him to points 2, 3 or 6 in any event.

1. race wars
2. super regulation of business
3. eco terrorism
4. censorship of the press
5. abandonment of free speech
6. repealing of the Constitution

It was interesting research and reading anyway. If you really wanna talk about how Obama, liberals, or some other anti-Conservative entities are propagating the problems you list above, I'll look forward to it.

You obviously didn't find the youtubes that seem to have some kind of error, there are dozens of them.

you also must not have heard his key note address to His eco group where he has declared they will be taking small steps towards control of the economy.

Perhaps things are not as irrelevant as you found them to be and the numbers if you were paying attention just filled in by a few.

You're leading me on a wild goose chase, Dick. You're telling me to take one man's words and actions and interpret them the way you do. I read, I watched, I interpreted with my mind. You're teasing me. You tell me how he supports your assertions. You threw it out there. I was interested enough to bite and research. Give it to me.

Van Jones is just the first of many Obama can't distance himself from and all of them speak the same words he also cannot distance himself from the legislation that has either been passed or has been written to be voted on after the election.

He cannot find any reason for the failure of solyndra, and the millionaires that were made in it's failure.

Do you think his support of green energy is a fluke? do you think his denial of a pipeline for oil was a fluke?

you weren't very good at connect the dots were you sweetie?

I didn't have too many dots to connect, Sweet Thang. You can ask me for my opinion on any issue I toss out and I'll give you MINE. You said you'd support your contentions and then referred to me to someone else. Anyway, here are the connections that I think might be relevant in your goose chase.

Race Wars:
-He was arrested for protesting the Rodney King verdict
-As part of his Green For All NGO, he proclaims that the white community is polluting the environment of the black community.
-He supports Abu-Jamal, convicted cop killer on death row.

Censorship of the Press:
- He refused to answer some conservative journalist's questions after the scandal that caused his "resignation".
-He urged sponsors to drop adds on Glenn Beck after Beck aired 12 programs lambasting him.

Eco-Terrorism:
- He has transformed himself into "Mr. Green" and is all about the "Green Economy" and creating jobs related to environmental commerce. Don't know where the "terrorism" comes into it, unless it's because he is foreceful in pushing for greener business endeavors.

These are my guesses at what you infer from someone else. I don't necessarily support all of Jones' position in these areas and I could be wrong about why you referrred me to him instead of answering for your very capable self. So, give me a report card and YOUR fuckin' opinion or I'll let it be and figure you were all talk, no action when you said that YOU could prove your points. I wouldn't ask if I wasn't interested.

(05-19-2012, 12:17 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I didn't have too many dots to connect, Sweet Thang. You can ask me for my opinion on any issue I toss out and I'll give you MINE. You said you'd support your contentions and then referred to me to someone else. Anyway, here are the connections that I think might be relevant in your goose chase.

Race Wars:
-He was arrested for protesting the Rodney King verdict
-As part of his Green For All NGO, he proclaims that the white community is polluting the environment of the black community.
-He supports Abu-Jamal, convicted cop killer on death row.

Censorship of the Press:
- He refused to answer some conservative journalist's questions after the scandal that caused his "resignation".
-He urged sponsors to drop adds on Glenn Beck after Beck aired 12 programs lambasting him.

Eco-Terrorism:
- He has transformed himself into "Mr. Green" and is all about the "Green Economy" and creating jobs related to environmental commerce. Don't know where the "terrorism" comes into it, unless it's because he is foreceful in pushing for greener business endeavors.

These are my guesses at what you infer from someone else. I don't necessarily support all of Jones' position in these areas and I could be wrong about why you referrred me to him instead of answering for your very capable self. So, give me a report card and YOUR fuckin' opinion or I'll let it be and figure you were all talk, no action when you said that YOU could prove your points. I wouldn't ask if I wasn't interested.

Can you define eco terrorism?

(05-19-2012, 12:20 AM)IMaDick Wrote:

(05-19-2012, 12:17 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I didn't have too many dots to connect, Sweet Thang. You can ask me for my opinion on any issue I toss out and I'll give you MINE. You said you'd support your contentions and then referred to me to someone else. Anyway, here are the connections that I think might be relevant in your goose chase.

Race Wars:
-He was arrested for protesting the Rodney King verdict
-As part of his Green For All NGO, he proclaims that the white community is polluting the environment of the black community.
-He supports Abu-Jamal, convicted cop killer on death row.

Censorship of the Press:
- He refused to answer some conservative journalist's questions after the scandal that caused his "resignation".
-He urged sponsors to drop adds on Glenn Beck after Beck aired 12 programs lambasting him.

Eco-Terrorism:
- He has transformed himself into "Mr. Green" and is all about the "Green Economy" and creating jobs related to environmental commerce. Don't know where the "terrorism" comes into it, unless it's because he is foreceful in pushing for greener business endeavors.

These are my guesses at what you infer from someone else. I don't necessarily support all of Jones' position in these areas and I could be wrong about why you referrred me to him instead of answering for your very capable self. So, give me a report card and YOUR fuckin' opinion or I'll let it be and figure you were all talk, no action when you said that YOU could prove your points. I wouldn't ask if I wasn't interested.

Can you define eco terrorism?

Yes. But, I'm not challenging you, Dick. I was taking you up on your offer because I was interested in your views. I can look all of it up, but that's not the point. You don't have to answer what I've asked in response to your offer if you don't want to. But, why would I tell you what you mean?

Van jones en-cited the people he was speaking to using fear as a substantive motivation to act.

Terrorism at it's core essential is fear.

eco terrorism does not require violence only the embodiment of fear.