(05-18-2012, 10:21 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 10:15 AM)ramseycat Wrote: If Trayvon was so stoned he didn't know what he was doing, I highly doubt he beat the shit out of George.

People do not pick fights if they are stoned. Doesn't happen.

I disagree. " I hope your post was to point out how stupid Ramseys comment was"

agitation and violence are the side affects of certain drugs or drug combinations.

Some stoned people as you call them feel no pain have greater than normal strength and a very short fuse and go into blind rages over very minor things.

Meth is well known for those side affects.

Cannabis does not cause violence and never has done.

You are thinking of Meth, PCP and alcohol you fucking moron.

The fact that they found THC in his bloodstream does not show that it caused him to fight. It does show that he was not as innocent as he was thought to be at first. I think it will play out different than the first few posts in this thread had been leaning. A child just walking through the neighborhood.

(05-18-2012, 11:42 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Cannabis does not cause violence and never has done.

You are thinking of Meth, PCP and alcohol you fucking moron.

I agree, BUT what it does do is cause paranoia to the point of possibly attacking someone.

(05-18-2012, 11:50 AM)Maggot Wrote: The fact that they found THC in his bloodstream does not show that it caused him to fight. It does show that he was not as innocent as he was thought to be at first. I think it will play out different than the first few posts in this thread had been leaning. A child just walking through the neighborhood.

AND the video alone shows that he was not a 10 year old child either, he is a lot bigger then they made him out to be.....!!

I have never heard of anyone attacking someone or rioting while under the influence of cannabis.

Stoners can't be assed to do anything never mind pick a fight.

(05-18-2012, 11:42 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Cannabis does not cause violence and never has done.

You are thinking of Meth, PCP and alcohol you fucking moron.

Never has done.

Ok, thanks for the college boy take on the subject.

Have you ever fought with a dealer who had 20 lbs of pot in the trunk of his car?

I think pot can cause violence ingested or not.

(05-18-2012, 11:52 AM)LytoMe Wrote: BUT what it does do is cause paranoia to the point of possibly attacking someone.

Bwahahaha! oh puleeze. People high on pot don't attack people & in this instance the amount of THC found in his blood was so minute that it showed he could have smoked some weed as far back as five days before this went down.

(05-18-2012, 11:54 AM)LytoMe Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 11:50 AM)Maggot Wrote: The fact that they found THC in his bloodstream does not show that it caused him to fight. It does show that he was not as innocent as he was thought to be at first. I think it will play out different than the first few posts in this thread had been leaning. A child just walking through the neighborhood.

AND the video alone shows that he was not a 10 year old child either, he is a lot bigger then they made him out to be.....!!

The original picture looks nothing like the dimestore video. Go back and read the first few pages of this thread and you can see the relationship between this mob and the mob in Zimmermans hometown.

(05-18-2012, 12:50 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Have you ever fought with a dealer who had 20 lbs of pot in the trunk of his car?

The dealer is not fighting you because he is under the influence you fucknut he is fighting you because you caught him.

Jesus Christ.

Some people are absolutely determined to make this incident some fault of the kid that got shot.

(05-18-2012, 02:41 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Some people are absolutely determined to make this incident some fault of the kid that got shot.

...but, but, but he LOOKED suspicious, OP. He was wearing a hoodie, oh my gods.

Simply seeing his face makes my lip curl.

(05-18-2012, 02:44 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 02:41 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Some people are absolutely determined to make this incident some fault of the kid that got shot.

...but, but, but he LOOKED suspicious, OP. He was wearing a hoodie, oh my gods.

The bottom line is if George had stayed in his vehicle as he was advised to do and let the police handle this, Trayvon would be alive. George would not be on trial for murder. Maybe Trayvon wasn't a skinny teenager. Maybe he was high. The fast still remains that George left his vehicle and went looking for him because he "thought" he was up to no good. Trayvon could have been a complete shit head high school drop out. It doesn't matter. If he was walking home from the store doing nothing wrong and George followed him despite being told to leave it to the police, he is ultimately responsible for killing Trayvon. Why the hell was George carrying a gun for a neighborhood watch anyway? That right there tells you he was looking for trouble on some level.

(05-18-2012, 02:41 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 12:50 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Have you ever fought with a dealer who had 20 lbs of pot in the trunk of his car?

The dealer is not fighting you because he is under the influence you fucknut he is fighting you because you caught him.

Jesus Christ.

Some people are absolutely determined to make this incident some fault of the kid that got shot.

Really? this is my story and the dealer is high.

(05-18-2012, 02:41 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 12:50 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Have you ever fought with a dealer who had 20 lbs of pot in the trunk of his car?

The dealer is not fighting you because he is under the influence you fucknut he is fighting you because you caught him.
Jesus Christ.
Some people are absolutely determined to make this incident some fault of the kid that got shot.

I really do not think anyone is making it to be MARTIN'S FAULT.
I just do not think he is this INNOCENT CHILD that they made him out to be in the first place. If the picture of what he looked like at the time of death was circulated, and NOT the picture of when he was 10 was circulated...I am sure it would not have had this much attention.

I am not putting BLAME on anyone...but the facts are facts. Speculation and what COULD HAVE HAPPENED, or HE WOULD BE ALIVE IF....No one can answer that. Who is to say he would not have went after a cop, then a cop would have shot him!? “Ifs” and “could have beens” do not count in a court of law.

(05-18-2012, 02:59 PM)LytoMe Wrote: Who is to say he would not have went after a cop, then a cop would have shot him!?

Well that's a nice big leap and the inference there is that Trayvon "went after" Zimmerman. I disagree from what I know so far.

(05-18-2012, 02:58 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Really? this is my story and the dealer is high.

He struggled with you because you caught him NOT because he was high.

The only thing he could have done influenced directly by cannabis would have been to give you a fucking high five.

(05-18-2012, 03:06 PM)username Wrote: Well that's a nice big leap and the inference there is that Trayvon "went after" Zimmerman. I disagree from what I know so far.

Really? It seems completely plausible that Trayvon could have confronted someone following him... it's just as likely a scenario as Zimmerman confronting him.

It strikes me reading though this thread that a jury will discuss the same things, and likely not be able to agree.

(05-18-2012, 03:16 PM)Jimbone Wrote:

(05-18-2012, 03:06 PM)username Wrote: Well that's a nice big leap and the inference there is that Trayvon "went after" Zimmerman. I disagree from what I know so far.

Really? It seems completely plausible that Trayvon could have confronted someone following him... it's just as likely a scenario as Zimmerman confronting him.

There's a difference (to me) between going after someone and confronting someone. The former implies a chase type scenario, the latter is, well, the confrontation. Trayvon may well have gotten tired of being followed and turned around and "confronted" Z. Or Z might have confronted Trayvon.