(07-29-2012, 06:19 PM)NightOwl Wrote: From The Blade "Several of Clarke's friends said that Clarke was known to brag about money when he had it, and other things that he had."

This testimony from the trial Toledo Blade above, I see no mention of a safe and I believe the Blade wouldn't leave that part out.

I'm trying to find more info on the safe.

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2011/02/j...aub_fo.php


UPDATE IV: Relatives believe the killers were looking for a safe.

"There's a lot of work involved in this. That's not random. That's targeted," Doyle Burke, a retired Dayton homicide detective, told the Toledo Blade. "The average burglar or robber is armed, but they're not walking around with duct tape and plastic bags."

That has led some to believe that the perpetrators knew the victims, and that this was personal. Slowly suffocating the couple to death would indicate they wanted Johnny and Lisa to die slowly -- and painfully.

But Jim Jim Verbosky, Lisa's uncle, believes the bad guys knew Lisa's parents, Jeff and Mary Beth Straub, were out of town for their anniversary. He also says they were looking for a safe that didn't exist.

"There is a kitchen with an island and an open eating area that went into an open family room," he told the Blade. "That was not ransacked, but you could tell there was a fight that ensued there. Plants were knocked over. Things were broken and knocked over, but upstairs, Mary Beth and Jeff's room was ransacked to the point where it looked like a TV show. All the drawers were out, and they had punched holes in the walk-in closet looking for a safe that never existed. There was no safe."

All that was stolen was $84 in cash from a change jar. Valuables like jewelry, TVs and computers were left behind.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/0...-jail.html

Samuel Williams wasn't very open about his case with fellow inmates at the Lucas County jail until one night when he shared insight about events inside a Springfield Township home in January, 2011, said a Toledo man who testified Tuesday in Lucas County Pleas Court.

"One of the things [Williams] said was that he'll never forget how the bag made a crinkle noise when Lisa [Straub] breathed in," said Erik Yingling, who was incarcerated at the jail in December, 2011, with Williams. " … They were trying to torture them, for lack of a better word, to try to get Johnny [Clarke] to tell where the safe and money was."

(07-29-2012, 12:02 PM)Pico45 Wrote: OK people, I understand that a lot of you are not from toledo. I am. Moved away. But let me explain East Toledo to some of you. First of all, its very impoverished. The government put Brand Whitlock project homes there years ago, and it has sunk that place. Second, not some of the sharpest tools there. I think most of you get that by reading that article. Third, all they ever talk about is how things are not doing well in EToledo. That is going on for 30+years ago. Fourth, most of them are practically drug dealers, pimps, and assorted low lives. Fifth, most of them smoke crack cocaine. I am not kidding. Sixth, most of them are inbred. Seventh, Add that they are inbred, smoke crack, AND there is a HUGE Sun Oil plant right in the middle of the east side. No kidding. Hopefully this sheds some light on the retards we are dealing with!

Nice essay Pico, it's the complete breakdown of family, shattered lives, wrong thinking, no Prayer in school, no God period. Girls flaunting their bosom and bottom and throwing themselves away on thugs robbers, thieves, lazy worthless men, then unwed mothers run to Welfare for help for food and shelter. Good decent values all gone out the window!
Girls need to be taught old fashioned values no sex until marriage once again and if they are having children the man they marry must be able to provide for his family damn it! no daycare centers that's a communist notion! raise your own children women have your man's dinner prepared when he gets home from work and your home tidy if you want all the stuff you see pushed at you on that T.V. SUV's, motorcycles, Boats, Trips etc., etc., worry about a job after you've raised your children, better yet shut the T.V. off and read to your children, enjoy your library.

There is no substitute for a decent father and mother!

(07-29-2012, 12:02 PM)Pico45 Wrote: ... AND there is a HUGE Sun Oil plant right in the middle of the east side.Hopefully this sheds some light on the retards we are dealing with!

is your inference that the plant could have toxically poisoned the town with mentioning the plant? Interesting...

So I have been scoping out the Yinglings on fb. Looks like a who's who on the Eastside of Toledo. So many names in common with individuals that I had previous found through Williams and Pettaway. Kind of strange

Birds of a feather flock together.

(07-29-2012, 09:15 PM)Adub Wrote: So I have been scoping out the Yinglings on fb. Looks like a who's who on the Eastside of Toledo. So many names in common with individuals that I had previous found through Williams and Pettaway. Kind of strange

He's 39 his real name I believe is Erik S Yingling that's what was in Toledo Blade and on Mugshotsonline.com but, he's also going with Eric Yingling, I don't see any connection to Cam or Sam. Mustang, seems quite suspicious of Yingling, I can not find anything connecting him to Alexandra Cousino, Eric Taylor, Amy TenEyck or Cam and Sam & lets not forget Yaunest Deandre Gaiter Amy's new guy. I do believe Erik Yingling did the right thing and the Jury believed him. Perjury in Ohio is 5 years in Prison and maximum fine of $10,000.

(07-29-2012, 10:41 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(07-29-2012, 09:15 PM)Adub Wrote: So I have been scoping out the Yinglings on fb. Looks like a who's who on the Eastside of Toledo. So many names in common with individuals that I had previous found through Williams and Pettaway. Kind of strange

He's 39 his real name I believe is Erik S Yingling that's what was in Toledo Blade and on Mugshotsonline.com but, he's also going with Eric Yingling, I don't see any connection to Cam or Sam. Mustang, seems quite suspicious of Yingling, I can not find anything connecting him to Alexandra Cousino, Eric Taylor, Amy TenEyck or Cam and Sam & lets not forget Yaunest Deandre Gaiter Amy's new guy. I do believe Erik Yingling did the right thing and the Jury believed him. Perjury in Ohio is 5 years in Prison and maximum fine of $10,000.

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(07-29-2012, 07:23 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(07-29-2012, 12:02 PM)Pico45 Wrote: OK people, I understand that a lot of you are not from toledo. I am. Moved away. But let me explain East Toledo to some of you. First of all, its very impoverished. The government put Brand Whitlock project homes there years ago, and it has sunk that place. Second, not some of the sharpest tools there. I think most of you get that by reading that article. Third, all they ever talk about is how things are not doing well in EToledo. That is going on for 30+years ago. Fourth, most of them are practically drug dealers, pimps, and assorted low lives. Fifth, most of them smoke crack cocaine. I am not kidding. Sixth, most of them are inbred. Seventh, Add that they are inbred, smoke crack, AND there is a HUGE Sun Oil plant right in the middle of the east side. No kidding. Hopefully this sheds some light on the retards we are dealing with!

Nice essay Pico, it's the complete breakdown of family, shattered lives, wrong thinking, no Prayer in school, no God period. Girls flaunting their bosom and bottom and throwing themselves away on thugs robbers, thieves, lazy worthless men, then unwed mothers run to Welfare for help for food and shelter. Good decent values all gone out the window!
Girls need to be taught old fashioned values no sex until marriage once again and if they are having children the man they marry must be able to provide for his family damn it! no daycare centers that's a communist notion! raise your own children women have your man's dinner prepared when he gets home from work and your home tidy if you want all the stuff you see pushed at you on that T.V. SUV's, motorcycles, Boats, Trips etc., etc., worry about a job after you've raised your children, better yet shut the T.V. off and read to your children, enjoy your library.

There is no substitute for a decent father and mother!

I agree with you completely. Im an old fasioned woman, for sure, but my husband and I sacrificed a lot for our kids....and Id do it all over again!

(07-29-2012, 09:15 PM)Adub Wrote: So I have been scoping out the Yinglings on fb. Looks like a who's who on the Eastside of Toledo. So many names in common with individuals that I had previous found through Williams and Pettaway. Kind of strange

Perhaps thats why Sam chose to confide in him.

Adub, I don't know what you do for a living but you ought to be a researcher for investigators.

(07-29-2012, 12:02 PM)Pico45 Wrote: OK people, I understand that a lot of you are not from toledo. I am. Moved away. But let me explain East Toledo to some of you. First of all, its very impoverished. The government put Brand Whitlock project homes there years ago, and it has sunk that place. Second, not some of the sharpest tools there. I think most of you get that by reading that article. Third, all they ever talk about is how things are not doing well in EToledo. That is going on for 30+years ago. Fourth, most of them are practically drug dealers, pimps, and assorted low lives. Fifth, most of them smoke crack cocaine. I am not kidding. Sixth, most of them are inbred. Seventh, Add that they are inbred, smoke crack, AND there is a HUGE Sun Oil plant right in the middle of the east side. No kidding. Hopefully this sheds some light on the retards we are dealing with!

Brand Whitlock isn't on the east side...FYI.
The east Toledo projects are Weiler homes and BT ...Birmingham Terrace.

Im wide awake and thinking about the sentencing hearing tomorrow.
Thinking about SW getting the death penalty or dying in prison.
Thinking about the Straubs and the Clarkes...and wondering if theyre up and thinking too.
Thinking about Cameo and wondering if he feels any, even a tiny bit, of guilt for
what is going to happen to his friend tomorrow, if he has any remorse at all for being a
lying, murdering, thieving piece of shit.
Thinking about Lisa and Johnny and wondering what they would have done this weekend
if they were still alive. Would they still be together? Would they be engaged? Have a baby on
the way? Would they have enjoyed family, friends and the warm sun on their faces while
taking Gotti for a walk in the park?
I think. I wonder. I wonder. Then think some more.
The answers lead to more thinking...and wondering...
Im thankful I have Mock, and all of us who have hung out together in this forum...
I know yall understand what Im saying. Im sure Im not the only one thinking and wondering
about all this all the time. I appreciate you, fellow Mockers.

Justice for Johnny & Lisa
3 hours ago via mobile
IF WE SEE ANY OF YOU DEMONS THAT ARE NOT ARRESTED YET WE WILL DEVOURE ALL YOU SICK EVIL COWARDS WE TOO HAVE NO REMORSE FOR YOU OR YOURS ITS BECAUSE OF YOU TAKING JOHNNY AND LISA FROM US THAT YOU ACTIVATED OUR HATE SO CROSS MY PATH.......I DARE YOU

the sentencing hearing should be taking place now. the defense will present mitigating factors, if any. the state will present aggravating factors.
there should already be a pre-sentencing report in the judge's hands.
the jury will weigh the factors and make their recommendation to the judge.
the judge cannot sentence to death if jury recommends life. however, he can sentence to life even if they recommend death. they usually follow jury recommendation.
prior to actual sentencing there may be victim impact statements by victims' families.

I'm wondering if they're going to let that loon MV in the courtroom for a Victim Impact Statement. If so, the hearing could go on for days...............and days........... How is she going to speak in ALL CAPS without getting thrown out again??

(07-30-2012, 10:05 AM)piwannab Wrote: I'm wondering if they're going to let that loon MV in the courtroom for a Victim Impact Statement. If so, the hearing could go on for days...............and days........... How is she going to speak in ALL CAPS without getting thrown out again??

Judge has to approve what they say so she would have to write what she wants to say first.

Thanks fabulous. I always get confused what projects are over there!

LC

I have SO appreciated your knowledge, wisdom and insight here over the
past months and once again, you succinctly answered a question. Thanks
for the fun Smilies and the occasional emotional exclamation with which I almost
always agree! This board is such a pleasure and support.

I have not personally come in contact with any Mockers but wish there
would be a Mock picnic sometime in some local park in Toledo or even
a cocktail hour somewhere as I feel as if I have made a dozen or so new
friends from here and about the states on Mock.

Just to let you know - I started out hunting for Mock when I lived in
Manhattan, and have since moved to within 25 miles of Toledo. It is
odd, I never batted an eye walking any time of day or night in Central
Park or Harlem, but getting gas in Toledo (Secor/Central/Monroe area)
for the first time was scary as hell.

I was at the pump and tapped on the shoulder from behind by a local
hooknick. I did not know if I would get a knife in the belly, my purse
or car stolen or what might happen. So, stay away from pumps
by restrooms and trees lining the property.

A Hello out to ALL MOCKERS EVERYWHERE~~~!!!!!
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hell.

Justice for Johnny & Lisa
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IF WE SEE ANY OF YOU DEMONS THAT ARE NOT ARRESTED YET WE WILL DEVOURE ALL YOU SICK EVIL COWARDS WE TOO HAVE NO REMORSE FOR YOU OR YOURS ITS BECAUSE OF YOU TAKING JOHNNY AND LISA FROM US THAT YOU ACTIVATED OUR HATE SO CROSS MY PATH.......I DARE YOU
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