(09-24-2012, 09:33 PM)Ilyanna Wrote: Uh, no, it is not abortion, not even in the strictest of sense. The MAP prevents ovulation and, in case an egg still is ready and willing, pretty much disables any sperm to impregnate it. I repeat, there is NO fertilization happening. Please read up on it before you say something placative, aussie.

So it's pretty much like having a copper IUD which is what I have? It stops the egg from being fertilized like any other birth control.

(09-24-2012, 09:36 PM)sally Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:33 PM)Ilyanna Wrote: Uh, no, it is not abortion, not even in the strictest of sense. The MAP prevents ovulation and, in case an egg still is ready and willing, pretty much disables any sperm to impregnate it. I repeat, there is NO fertilization happening. Please read up on it before you say something placative, aussie.

So it's pretty much like having a copper IUD which is what I have? The egg doesn't actually get fertilized?

I've heard the IUD inhibits a womans ability to achieve orgasm.

Thoughts?

I think the pills should be in a despencer by the water fountain.
Do they still have water fountains?

(09-24-2012, 09:42 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: I think the pills should be in a despencer by the water fountain.
Do they still have water fountains?

Yes they still have water fountains. LOL
Interesting..............

(09-24-2012, 09:41 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:36 PM)sally Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:33 PM)Ilyanna Wrote: Uh, no, it is not abortion, not even in the strictest of sense. The MAP prevents ovulation and, in case an egg still is ready and willing, pretty much disables any sperm to impregnate it. I repeat, there is NO fertilization happening. Please read up on it before you say something placative, aussie.

So it's pretty much like having a copper IUD which is what I have? The egg doesn't actually get fertilized?

I've heard the IUD inhibits a womans ability to achieve orgasm.

Thoughts?

I never had one. However my sister did does and she has no problems reaching that.

(09-24-2012, 09:33 PM)Ilyanna Wrote: Uh, no, it is not abortion, not even in the strictest of sense. The MAP prevents ovulation and, in case an egg still is ready and willing, pretty much disables any sperm to impregnate it. I repeat, there is NO fertilization happening. Please read up on it before you say something placative, aussie.

There does exist a so-called abortion pill. It has a completely different indication (you guess it - abortion) and effect, and no state, city, school, or doctor in the US or Europe would consider simply distributing it to pregnant students.

Yep. You are not evenly REMOTELY pregnant if you take the MAP.

(09-24-2012, 09:41 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:36 PM)sally Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:33 PM)Ilyanna Wrote: Uh, no, it is not abortion, not even in the strictest of sense. The MAP prevents ovulation and, in case an egg still is ready and willing, pretty much disables any sperm to impregnate it. I repeat, there is NO fertilization happening. Please read up on it before you say something placative, aussie.

So it's pretty much like having a copper IUD which is what I have? The egg doesn't actually get fertilized?

I've heard the IUD inhibits a womans ability to achieve orgasm.

Thoughts?

No problems in that department. It does cause me to have really, really heavy periods and cramps, however. My husband says to take it out before it kills me, but I'm too scared to take the chance. I got pregnant after having my tubes cauterized for 13 years, he's lucky I'm willing to even have sex anymore.

(09-24-2012, 09:36 PM)sally Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:33 PM)Ilyanna Wrote: Uh, no, it is not abortion, not even in the strictest of sense. The MAP prevents ovulation and, in case an egg still is ready and willing, pretty much disables any sperm to impregnate it. I repeat, there is NO fertilization happening. Please read up on it before you say something placative, aussie.

So it's pretty much like having a copper IUD which is what I have? It stops the egg from being fertilized like any other birth control.

If it is one of the old-fashioned IUD's, it's different because with those, the sperms' movements is supposedly inhibited so it can't get to the tubes where the egg is, and in case where that still happens, the fertilized egg will not be able to settle into the endometrium.
If it's the newer version that also constantly emits hormone (Gestagen, iirc), well, that's more or less a long-term hormonal contraceptive.

The base line, though, is - yeah, that's what the MAP is. Only it has a much higher level of hormonal active substance than the standard pill.

It's abortion. I have taken it twice in my life. I didn't realise what it did. I would never do it again.

(09-24-2012, 09:01 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: Morning after pill is abortion, you ladies should know what you are doing. If you want to do it, that is your business, but you should know what you are doing.

The pill that the schools are distributing is the "Plan B" pill by Teva. It needs to be taken as soon as possible after sex (within 72 hours) to prevent pregnancy. According to Teva: "Plan B should not affect or terminate an existing pregnancy".

From what I've read, abortion pills terminate existing pregnancies less than 9 weeks along.

It brings on a menstrual cycle. If you are pregnant it will abort.

(09-24-2012, 09:54 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: It's abortion. I have taken it twice in my life. I didn't realise what it did. I would never do it again.

Unless you pissed out a tadpole I don't thinks it's abortion, Aussie

(09-24-2012, 09:57 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: It brings on a menstrual cycle. If you are pregnant it will abort.

Well, maybe so in some cases. I don't believe the manufacturer claims that it could never interfere with existing pregnancy.

But, if you are not already pregnant and take the Plan B as directed after sex, there's nothing to abort.

Seriously, aussie, I think you are confusing something here. Plan B does not immediately bring on menstruation, at least as far as I know.

Besides, as we have tried to say very clearly and repeatedly - the MAP is preventing the spermy thingies to get into the eggsy thingies, so there is no mingling of DNA (at least as long as it works as intended), and thus, no little baby. Seriously, you could just as well claim that brushing your teeth after oral sex equals abortion.

Even if it is, so what?

(09-24-2012, 09:41 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I've heard the IUD inhibits a womans ability to achieve orgasm.

Thoughts?

Ms, you crack me up sometimes.

I had a copper IUD for years. I would have had the doctors take it out and just stuck with the painful morning after pill, if that were the case.

I have never heard of that side effect.

(09-24-2012, 09:54 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: It's abortion. I have taken it twice in my life. I didn't realise what it did. I would never do it again.

You're fucking retarded. It's no different than any other form of birth control. It prevents implantation ergo, there IS no pregnancy. You might as well call all forms of contraception abortion.

Quote:Even if it is, so what?

OBK, strictly speaking for myself here - it is a slight difference for me, I would ponder a bit longer about it. But as I said - strictly speaking for myself. I think it is solely the right of the involved woman/couple to decide if it'd be a difference, and how they decide if it is.

(09-24-2012, 10:14 PM)username Wrote:

(09-24-2012, 09:54 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: It's abortion. I have taken it twice in my life. I didn't realise what it did. I would never do it again.

You're fucking retarded. It's no different than any other form of birth control. It prevents implantation ergo, there IS no pregnancy. You might as well call all forms of contraception abortion.

You are the retarded one. Stupid bitch. At least I spent some time studying this shit. Your experience is based on fucking around alot.

As for Ilyanna, I am not even responding to that shit. How the fuck did you get a membership here?

Right out of arguments, huh? It's ok, dear, we kind of figured that three or four posts of yours ago. Don't get your knickers in a twist over it, who knows what could happen if!