If I lived in a corrupt raghead infested hellhole like fatboy I would insist my wife never left the house without as much firepower as she could physically carry.

(07-20-2013, 03:49 PM)Mohammed Wrote: What can I say? You go with the flow. We should be moving into our new residence over the next month. It got a freakin pool and sauna in the basement. Didn't want to open another restaurant and club, but the city sure needed a place to party.

Well, times are tough and it's gettin' rough. Just gave Jelly her own little AK for a present. Now we're looking for a fitting handbag.

I love sittin' in the sauna.

Probably 3-4 times a week at the club, and what I'd give to have one IN MY HOUSE.

It's better to be lucky than good, Mo.

Hats off to you.

(07-20-2013, 03:21 PM)Mohammed Wrote: Aussie, not only do you sound like a daft 6 year old now, "When you go to Dubai some of the tourism that they are using to attract tourists is obviously not the same as the western countries you have mentioned. You cannot compare Singapore/New York/Tokyo or any other Western nation to Dubai." no shit, but also somewhat traumatized, which I guess comes from your Saudi experience.

I have been to Dubai and to Abu Dhabi. I have been to Bahrain, several times too. I loved Bahrain. But I was very aware that these are muslim countries and you need to be aware of that. You see some westerners who forget that. That is my point.

You do not know the full extent of my experience Mohammed and you would be shocked, I have not revealed in here, nor will I. Needless to say, I very much know what I am talking about. You don't need to get personal and accuse me of childish naivety.

Addit: For the record Mohammed, I am not in the other thread condoning or applauding like others the vile actions of marines urinating on corpses. What people don't seem to understand is that it says more about them and the fact that they think this practice is acceptable just because the corpses were muslims. I think this act shows them to be more evil than the evil that they are trying to allegedly fight. Those condoning and supporting them are morons.

(07-20-2013, 10:08 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: What people don't seem to understand is that it says more about them and the fact that they think this practice is acceptable just because the corpses were muslims.

I never got the feeling that those (including myself) who had no problem whatsoever about our Marines pissing on the corpses as it had NOTHING to do with being Muslim.

The gesture is pissing on the corpse of an enemy . . . PERIOD.

Fuck 'em if they didn't like it.

It's war . . . not fucking tea time.

Don't you come from a legal background? Aren't those individuals in breach of international laws? What about bringing the uniform/nation into disrepute? Shame shame shame.

(07-21-2013, 12:29 AM)aussiefriend Wrote: What about bringing the uniform/nation into disrepute? Shame shame shame.

They were charged, prosecuted and punished by their respective branch of service.

To me, this was a non-incident within the panorama of war.

It was urine on a corpse . . . not napalm on children.

War should have no rules.

Rules give warfare the appearance that somehow it is civilized and fair.

Maybe if we allow it to be so horrific, individuals will be just a tad more hesitant to willfully engage in combat.

Fuck the rules: Kill every single mother fucking enemy combatant and their family.

Win . . . then go home.

Well, so me saying you sound somewhat traumatized, and you coming back with this ....

(07-20-2013, 10:08 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You do not know the full extent of my experience Mohammed and you would be shocked, I have not revealed in here, nor will I. Needless to say, I very much know what I am talking about. You don't need to get personal and accuse me of childish naivety.

.... just sort of confirms it, doesn't it?!

There's nothing personal in accusing you of childish naivety. Anybody who comes up with "But the weather is different in all those places" to argue their difference to me is sounding a bit like a kid. It's just silly.

Yes, they are Muslim countries, and here I was running a bar and fine dining joint in one of them where Alcohol is absolutely forbidden. Most of those who scream "Haram!" the loudest are just a bunch of hypocrites who shout because they didn't get any payment.

You got to know how to deal with these guys, don't give them any ammunition and hammer them with their own crap. Works perfect for me.

But yeah, I surely wouldn't want to be a woman around these chaps.

(07-21-2013, 12:45 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: They were charged, prosecuted and punished by their respective branch of service.

To me, this was a non-incident within the panorama of war.

It was urine on a corpse . . . not napalm on children.

War should have no rules.

Rules give warfare the appearance that somehow it is civilized and fair.

Maybe if we allow it to be so horrific, individuals will be just a tad more hesitant to willfully engage in combat.

Fuck the rules: Kill every single mother fucking enemy combatant and their family.

Win . . . then go home.

The allies won WW2 following “the rules” most of the time against an enemy who didn't follow “the rules” most of the time.

I don't see why the war in Irag or Afghanistan should be any different.

Win? Yes, but at any cost? No.

War is Hell and just because we don't hear talk about the atrocities from back in the day does not mean they didn't happen, it just means that generation had more sense and kept their mouth shut, not to mention there were no cell phones for recording the bullshit. No one can say there was no peeing going on back then. I'd pee on an enemy corpse who had been trying to kill me. I don't care what that looks like to those looking in or the opinions of those that were not there. It's war & I wouldn't condemn anyone for pissing on the dead body of the enemy.

(07-21-2013, 01:06 AM)Mohammed Wrote: .... just sort of confirms it, doesn't it?!

Let's face it, the Arab world is another planet. God bless you if you can 'handle' these guys. It's not safe for any Westerner over there these days, let alone irresponsible/inexperienced ones that have had a few drinks too many.

If a girl is gang raped, jail the bitch. That's Arab justice. I am surprised more pressure isn't being exerted behind the scenes ie 'hands off our women'. The Western world is just as misogynistic towards it's women, it's just more obvious in the Arab world.

Apart from the war areas like Syria and this rather ridiculous kidnapping business they got going on here in Yemen, the other places are pretty safe for Westerners I would say. I think it's more of a hassle for a black guy walking thru East Germany then for us here.

There is definitely some pressure and reaction going on behind the scene's as apparently nobody is out trying to get the girl. Trust me, they might be daft many times, but the boys behind Dubai sure don't want to ruin that carefully build crystal castle and foreigner friendly image they build. At least the foreigners with cash, don't want any of that rif-raf like CN walking around there.

(07-21-2013, 06:15 AM)Mohammed Wrote: At least the foreigners with cash, don't want any of that rif-raf like CN walking around there.

“I'm his first, his last, his everything!”

Its a shame Valentines day has passed then you could have shown just how much I mean to you Heinrich.

Here's todays Mock challenge for you fatty try, or strive even, to make as many posts as possible where you don't mention me!

(07-21-2013, 05:28 AM)Duchess Wrote:

War is Hell and just because we don't hear talk about the atrocities from back in the day does not mean they didn't happen, it just means that generation had more sense and kept their mouth shut, not to mention there were no cell phones for recording the bullshit. No one can say there was no peeing going on back then. I'd pee on an enemy corpse who had been trying to kill me. I don't care what that looks like to those looking in or the opinions of those that were not there. It's war & I wouldn't condemn anyone for pissing on the dead body of the enemy.

Why are you all so fucking obsessed with pissing on things?!

Do you get your hubby to piss on you in the shower Duch? The world needs to know, are you all golden shower enthusiasts? Because if you are that would explain a lot.

Jesus Christ

(07-21-2013, 06:46 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(07-21-2013, 06:15 AM)Mohammed Wrote: At least the foreigners with cash, don't want any of that rif-raf like CN walking around there.

“I'm his first, his last, his everything!”

Its a shame Valentines day has passed then you could have shown just how much I mean to you Heinrich.

Here's todays Mock challenge for you fatty try, or strive even, to make as many posts as possible where you don't mention me!

Why would I you mentally unfortunate result of dubious sperm samples? I enjoy smacking you around. Besides, you would feel all lonely on a Sunday.

Say, that one pic you floated around from yourself clearly shows some serious head injury. Was that from your .... ahem, skateboarding times?

The only head injury I've got is a metaphorical one caused by mentally headbutting you in your fat face every time I reply to you Heinrich.

Lonely? Moi? On a sunday? Bwahahaha! Sunday isn't a day of rest in my house fatboy.

I enjoy kicking your kraut ass around the forum as well but I don't mention you in every single post fats.

(07-21-2013, 02:39 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(07-21-2013, 12:45 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: They were charged, prosecuted and punished by their respective branch of service.

To me, this was a non-incident within the panorama of war.

It was urine on a corpse . . . not napalm on children.

War should have no rules.

Rules give warfare the appearance that somehow it is civilized and fair.

Maybe if we allow it to be so horrific, individuals will be just a tad more hesitant to willfully engage in combat.

Fuck the rules: Kill every single mother fucking enemy combatant and their family.

Win . . . then go home.

The allies won WW2 following “the rules” most of the time against an enemy who didn't follow “the rules” most of the time.

I don't see why the war in Irag or Afghanistan should be any different.

Win? Yes, but at any cost? No.

You do not see it because you are too Stupid or Obtuse to see it. WW2 was fought by stand up armies in uniforms. The sand box is riddled with ignorant, misguided, mislead assholes that have swallowed the coolaid put out by the local mullahs. You can't use rules to fight a guy that has no rules. The believe we are satans spawn, they believe that if they get killed killing us they get 27 virgins or some shit. They believe that some mix of stone age ignorance and cell phones is the right way to go. They believe that keeping their women covered up, ignorant and blamed for whatever perversion comes out of their own head is the way to go.
They will do any fucked up animalistic savage shit that comes to mind thinking that it will scare the rest of the world away and they can claim Victory over the great satan.
They do not respect rules, they do not respect human decency, they do not respect ANYTHING except getting desecrated and fucked out of their 27 virgins, Period.
SO how to deal with them? On their own terms. Behead some of them, piss on a few of them, stick a ham sandwich up their ass.
Whatever it takes, its a fight, its not supposed to be fair. If you find yourself in a fair fight you need better tactics. Its not a matter of "we are better than that", its a matter of "We have to better at it" than they are. We will never win the harts and minds of those people any more than we will any other ethnic group. The Mexicans stick together, the guatamalans stick together, the jews stick together. I don't know if that's wrong or not, it may be natures way, Birds of a feather and all that. But I do know that's the way it is. The rulers over there will never stop stirring up hate because that's what keeps them in power, period.
At some point we will mostly come home, until the next time.

Pissing on corpses is wrong.

The jarheads themselves got busted for it because it is wrong.

Coalition forces will ALWAYS have rules of engagement precisely because we are NOT savages like them and never will be.

Dickheads like you would have jarheads acting just like the Taliban thankfully nobody in a position of power or influence listens to dickheads like you because your talk incessantly directly out of your anus.

There is a great chasm between those in leadership rolls who declare war and those who are sent to fight the war. The reality and experience of being there is in stark contrast to the perceptions of those in their ivory towers watching at a safe distance. Even Douglas MacArthur was relieved of his command for those reasons and he is heralded as one of the greatest.

Dickheads like me would have made sure there were no cameras around.
If my friends and brothers had been killed by these assholes I very well may have pissed on the dead assholes too.
Not a damned bit ashamed of it either.