April 1 conficker worm protection

[Sinister]

I have a reason why and typed it out and saved it .........do you really want to see it?

No, I don't want to see it, I just don't want the fucking margins blown by 8 inches anymore.

To too late.:kiss::........I'm on the verge of a ham/cheese meltdown. And it was 9 5/8"

Whatever, whackjob; just put a concerted effort into not blowing the margins anymore. It annoys more than just me.

[SyberBitch]

Ugh! I am such a technotard. (feel free to Mock away at that one) I just want to turn the damn thing on and have it work. I don't want to worry about worms and virus's and shit.

Thanks to people like Ramsey, I manage to stay in business. ::thumbs::

[SyberBitch]

What if I am wireless? I usually turn my laptop off at night. Will that be sufficient?

If the laptop is the only computer connected to your internet, then yes, turning it all the way off would keep anything from communicating over the internet during the night. However, if you are infected by a 'time release' bug, it will simply activate the next time you turn your computer on. If the idea is to keep others from infecting you... it would be more likely to occur at some point over the next few days than all of a sudden overnight.

I don't think it's good practice to leave your computer running at night anyway. A lot of people do that, but it just puts more wear and tear on your components.

[OnBendedKnee]

I've always thought it was alright to simply leave your computer running 24/7. It's like a clock. I don't unplug/turn off my clock at night, why should I my computer?
(Although possibly turning off the computer monitor is a good idea. . .)

[SyberBitch]

I've always thought it was alright to simply leave your computer running 24/7. It's like a clock. I don't unplug/turn off my clock at night, why should I my computer?
(Although possibly turning off the computer monitor is a good idea. . .)

Some people think it's 'better' to leave a computer running all the time. However... from what I've learned in the computer industry, the components in a computer basically have a lifespan measured in so many 'hours'. The fan in your power supply, for example, the capacitors on your motherboard, pretty much everything really. The more you use up those 'hours', the sooner you're going to have to replace something. That especially holds true for laptops, because of the heat.

On the software side, for those of us who are slaves to Bill (using Microsoft Windows in some version or another), Windows has a memory accumulation error that has never been fixed from the first version. The longer you leave the software running, the more memory gets 'dirty', causing the system to slow down and start having problems. It's better, in my opinion, to start fresh every time you go to use your computer.

Bottom line, no matter what kind of computer you have, it will last longer if it's only 'on' while it's being used (or just for a certain stretch every day).

[OnBendedKnee]

Good to know.
At the rate new and improved computers come to the market I find myself a sucker for the latest and greatest, replacing my home computer about every couple of years regardless.
That's probably why I've never had an issue or problem with anything wearing out.

[SyberBitch]

Most likely. The average computer is really only made to last a couple of years at best. I tend to stay with my computer for several years though. The one I'm running now, I've had for... probably around 4 years I would guess. I'm about due for a 'new' system. Probably just a duo-core since the quads are still overblown on their pricing.

[OnBendedKnee]

I know at work we run Dell computers and it seems they're being replaced, like you stated, about every two years.

[SyberBitch]

Mmmm... I love it when I get my hands on a corporate upgrade dump. You can usually get the 'old' computers for little to nothing. Of course, with the price of systems plummeting these days, it's damned near impossible to make much on selling used desktops (laptops are a different story).

[OnBendedKnee]

[user=116]SyberBitch[/user] wrote:

Mmmm... I love it when I get my hands on a corporate upgrade dump. You can usually get the 'old' computers for little to nothing. Of course, with the price of systems plummeting these days, it's damned near impossible to make much on selling used desktops (laptops are a different story).

Unless the tech guy was jacking with me the county pays a service to dispose of the components as landfills here in California are not allowed to accept them anymore.

[SyberBitch]

[user=116]SyberBitch[/user] wrote:

Mmmm... I love it when I get my hands on a corporate upgrade dump. You can usually get the 'old' computers for little to nothing. Of course, with the price of systems plummeting these days, it's damned near impossible to make much on selling used desktops (laptops are a different story).

Unless the tech guy was jacking with me the county pays a service to dispose of the components as landfills here in California are not allowed to accept them anymore.

Hey, that would be even sweeter. ::bigg::

[D]

Most likely. The average computer is really only made to last a couple of years at best. I tend to stay with my computer for several years though. The one I'm running now, I've had for... probably around 4 years I would guess. I'm about due for a 'new' system. Probably just a duo-core since the quads are still overblown on their pricing.

They are? Obviously you've not been paying much attention :p

I can build a Quad Core AMD Phenom with a decent MOBO for under $300 right now. So there :p

Its only the video card thats gonna add to that, depending on what you want video wise.

Oh sure, that doesn't include a new monitor or anything... but even adding a decent flat panel you're only looking at about $80-$100 difference between Quad Core and Dual Core, and that increase is from both CPU and MOBO price differences.

EDIT:
Forgot to mention I'm on the other side of the leaving it on all the time issue. I leave my systems (all 11 of them) on ²⁴⁄₇ and just turn off monitors. And some of these machines are OLD. I have a 486DX running. Though thats just used as a hardware firewall

[SyberBitch]

Most likely. The average computer is really only made to last a couple of years at best. I tend to stay with my computer for several years though. The one I'm running now, I've had for... probably around 4 years I would guess. I'm about due for a 'new' system. Probably just a duo-core since the quads are still overblown on their pricing.

They are? Obviously you've not been paying much attention :p

I can build a Quad Core AMD Phenom with a decent MOBO for under $300 right now. So there :p

Its only the video card thats gonna add to that, depending on what you want video wise.

Oh sure, that doesn't include a new monitor or anything... but even adding a decent flat panel you're only looking at about $80-$100 difference between Quad Core and Dual Core, and that increase is from both CPU and MOBO price differences.

Well, I know they've been dropping, but I WOULD want a decent graphics card as well as new HDs (which I'm working on now). I dunno though... I *might* go quad-core. Depends on what's available when I get ready to buy.

EDIT: Forgot to mention I'm on the other side of the leaving it on all the time issue. I leave my systems (all 11 of them) on ²⁴⁄₇ and just turn off monitors. And some of these machines are OLD. I have a 486DX running. Though thats just used as a hardware firewall

Yeah, yeah... I've heard it before. I still say they last longer if you don't leave them running continuously. If nothing else, you'll burn through your power supplies every few years. The only problem I could see in turning your computer off vs leaving it on, would be if someone were turning off/on their computer like 10X/day. Then it would probably be better to just leave the damned thing on.

[The Antagonist]

D, I NEED a new computer. I'll take you up on the offer depending on the OS. If you're serious, shoot me a pm - I am.

I'm hanging on for Windows 7 to come out. Vista SUCKS. If it's going to be a long time before it comes out for sale I'll go with a Mac.

I know some people are using the beta test version of W7 now as their primary OS because it's so stable.

All I know is Vista sucks and I won't buy a computer with it in there. I'll hang onto my old one for now.

I do need an upgraded graphics card for the new Photoshop CS4 suite to work properly. I've got a Radeon ATI 9000 series in there now - had to put it in the other day when I upgraded my Photoshop to CS4.

As for the virus/worm shit..... get yourselves all an external firewall and you'll have nothing pass through there.

We just upgraded from cable to Verizon FiOS and our 'hub' system has a firewall in it. NO NEED for a software firewall like McAfee or Norton's. The hardware firewall is way better.

Anyone using Norton's Antivirus 2009 should also know that it has a built in firewall that will FUCK UP your whole system if you have windows, norton or mcafee firewalls installed. They conflict and you'll find your pc running slow as shit and getting C++ errors all the time. Crashing and rebooting all on it's own.

And to be super safe sure of yourself for a clean system, back your machine up weekly on an external source and give the damn maching a complete restore once a year. Reformatting is GOOD for your computer.

[SyberBitch]

All I know is Vista sucks and I won't buy a computer with it in there. I'll hang onto my old one for now.

Vista DOES suck. I've done several 'downgrades' for people who wanted XP instead. Aside from being funky to work with and the overblown, unnecessary, unhelpful 'security' crap, it's a resource hog and runs like molasses on machines that should zip.

I've not seen anything yet about Windows 7... but I won't be eager to jump on that either, until I see for myself that it truly is better than XP.

Anyone using Norton's Antivirus 2009 should also know that it has a built in firewall that will FUCK UP your whole system if you have windows, norton or mcafee firewalls installed. They conflict and you'll find your pc running slow as shit and getting C++ errors all the time. Crashing and rebooting all on it's own.

Uh yeah... MacAfee and Norton can both mess your system up bigtime, without providing any better protection than most standard anti-virus programs. I've had to remove MacAfee and Norton countless times to solve networking/internet access problems. Lame!

[The Antagonist]

http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=49322
Try that link to start with. It came out last year before the beta release.

I'll get more links for you from someone I know is using it and knows others are too. We're hoping to get his ass up here to work for us soon. He builds and repairs pc's too. You geeks are starting to meld into the population more and more... freakin' pod people is what you are. But in a good way.

[Duchess]

I would like to have my own personal pod person.

[The Antagonist]

Don't be jealous.

[Liquid]

I never ever turn my computers off, work or home. Some of them are well well over 4 years old. You really do not need to turn them off and I agree with D on this one. Our computer techs say the same thing.

[SyberBitch]

http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=49322
Try that link to start with. It came out last year before the beta release.

I'll get more links for you from someone I know is using it and knows others are too. We're hoping to get his ass up here to work for us soon. He builds and repairs pc's too. You geeks are starting to meld into the population more and more... freakin' pod people is what you are. But in a good way.

Interesting. Looks a lot like Vista. I would question the performance, primarily, and although there are some cute 'new features' (like the rollovers and the 'jump lists'), it seems to be laggy from the demo vids. I have to wonder if that's something you can speed up. I have to imagine that with all of the previewing and translucent window stuff, it's a huge resource hog. I mean seriously, why would I want to need a quad-core just to be able to run as fast as my single-core does now? If I'm lucky. Well, I guess I'll have plenty of opportunity to play around with it in my line of work. Thanks for the link.