ANOTHER SCHOOL/PUBLIC SHOOTING

[Clang McFly]

What the fuck is the matter with you, RC? 

By all means . . . please demonstrate how you can shoot someone if you don’t have access to a gun.  THAT . . . THAT . . .  is my only point! 

Nothing else, you whinging douche-bag!  

You want to jibber-jabber about costs, feasibility, politics . . . blah, blah, blah . . . but none of those issues counter the simple fact . . . if you don’t have a gun, you can’t shoot someone.

Cost, politics, race, sunspots, menstrual cycles, election cycles, gerrymandering, Tucker Carlson, population density, fried chicken, militaries, climate change, low-fat diets . . . doesn't  change the fact . . . you can’t shoot someone if you don’t have a gun.

Again, RC . . . please contradict that FACT . . . and not with your conspiracy theory, paranoid drivel, swimming around in your head.

If I state:  “If there is no bacon . . . you cannot make a BLT”  . . . will you continue to be an asshole and challenge that, too?

With or without a feasibility study (and all the rest of your bullshit avoidance rhetoric): Bottom Line: No bacon; No BLT.

Go suck a liberal's dick.

You can make a BLT without bacon. Bologna, Liverwurst,and Turkey. Best sandwich ever.

[sally]

Just check the mother fuckers medical records and that's how you can tell if they need a gun or not, the health insurance companies do it with pre existing conditions. Then they can of course just steal the gun from their grandma or whoever, but at least they can't legally buy an arsenal to store down in grandma's basement.

[sally]

You can't have a medical marijuana card and own a gun, why should you be able to be on any other mood enhancing drug and have a gun?

[sally]

Also America is closely tied with cartels and all kinds of other shady shit, you ain't getting rid of guns obviously which I assume is the point Tiki is making.

[sally]

Then again, when you assume you make an asshole out of yourself. But I do that plenty, so whatever.

[Duchess]

No one, literally no fucking one, is talking about getting rid of all the guns. Oh my fucking god.

[BlueTiki]

You can make a BLT without bacon. Bologna, Liverwurst,and Turkey. Best sandwich ever.

Bowman's Deli . . . the No. 18. sandwich.

(Corned) Beef, (Chicken) Liver and Turkey.

(High School summer waitress job - "Your choice of bread  . . . and will you be enjoying fries or a cup of Matzo Ball soup, with your sandwich?" ).

[Clang McFly]

You can make a BLT without bacon. Bologna, Liverwurst,and Turkey. Best sandwich ever.

Bowman's Deli . . . the No. 18. sandwich.

(Corned) Beef, (Chicken) Liver and Turkey.

(High School summer waitress job - "Your choice of bread  . . . and will you be enjoying fries or a cup of Matzo Ball soup, with your sandwich?" ).

[BlueTiki]

There was another called the "Manny" (the "man" part in Bowman's).  Roast Beef, Chicken Liver, Turkey, a slice of red-onion and deli mustard on some type of a roll.

[Duchess]

I used to have a duck named Manny. He was the pond nanny--Manny the nanny. He didn't have a mate and always stayed back in the pond with all the ducklings & goslings. I loved him. Some muthafucka plowed him down while he was crossing the road to the stream on the other side. My whole road knew him and sometimes people would stop to shoo him to one side or the other. I could not keep him from crossing the road. I guess I'm not over that because now I'm pissed off all over again. 

[BlueTiki]

 . . .  you ain't getting rid of guns obviously which I assume is the point Tiki is making.

No.  

I was saying if I don't have a gun, I can't shoot you.  If you don't have a gun, you can't shoot me.   Nothing deeper.  No hidden message or agenda. 

Just a simple physical fact.

Without guns, each of us is now safe from the other regarding gun violence . . . because we can no longer shoot each other . . . or be shot . . . as we have no guns.

As long as we have guns, there will be gun deaths and gun violence.

Get rid of the guns . . . or accept and deal with this fact.

[BigMark]

Then we would go to crossbows, man has been perfecting killing each other for millennia.

[rothschild]

No one, literally no fucking one, is talking about getting rid of all the guns. Oh my fucking god.

Here's a hypothetical scenario: the federal gov't bans "assault" weapons, but mass shootings continue unabated, with handguns.

Of course politicians and media aren't talking about banning all civilian firearms, but that doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it. The only time that words corellate with thought and action is in the case of persons who have moral integrity. One of the defining characteristics of corporate and political behavior is making promises with no intention of keeping them, and the reason that happens is because our society doesn't value moral integrity -- which has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. It is grounded in philosophy, and for good reason: without moral integrity scientific methodology is a joke, and when scientific methodology is corrupted, so too is science -- obviously.

What you're saying here is akin to what many said about Hitler prior to becoming the supreme ruler of Germany: "there's nothing to worry about, Hindenburg will keep Hitler in check." Many that were saying this were Zionists, ironically enough. Hannah Arendt addresses that in her book, Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil. She states that the darkest aspect of the Holocaust was the conduct of the Jewish leadership. Harsh words from a Jewish intellectual, and entirely accurate. The greatest human failure of the modern era is to downplay evil until there is no time left to effectively confront it, resulting in the needless death of millions. History has taught us nothing because it's been sanitized to prevent us from meddling in the affairs of those who think they're above us.

What does this have to do with gun control? Hitler prohibited Jews from possessing firearms because they were deemed to be enemies of the state, which is how it always goes with oppressive governments: they pass laws that target "enemies" the public is manipulated into fearing, the list of which grows continuously.

We fail to learn from history because "education" has nothing to do with education. The intelligentsia in this world are philosophically illiterate bootlickers. They have nothing valuable to impart to those they are tasked with "educating". There are exceptions, of course, but they are few and far between.

It's incredibly naive to place great value on words. behavior is all that matters, because it clearly reflects the state of one's moral integrity.

[BigMark]

I was going to purchase a pump action 30'06 because I had a ton of ammo and it would be the last gun banned...

[Duchess]

Of course politicians and media aren't talking about banning all civilian firearms, but that doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it. 

Stop it. Our right to bear arms & the weapons that allow us to, will never, and I mean never, be taken away. That's a fanciful train of thought, rothschild and will never happen in America.

I know you see a lot of woo woo out there, but even from you this is too much.

[rothschild]

Of course politicians and media aren't talking about banning all civilian firearms, but that doesn't mean they aren't thinking about it. 

Stop it. Our right to bear arms & the weapons that allow us to, will never, and I mean never, be taken away. That's a fanciful train of thought, rothschild and will never happen in America.

Why would you say that when it's literally impossible for you to know?

Even if you were to modify your assertion and say it would never happen without a constitutional amendment, it would still be impossible for you, or anyone else, to know.

If you were to instead say that it's unlikely, that would at least be arguable, but if we were to debate it I don't think you'd fare well. Many other nations have banned civilian ownership of firearms, and there are very few politicians in America that truly value national sovereignty -- none of them are Democrats.

Why do I mention sovereignty? Because that's the only thing that separates us from every other globalist nation in the world, the vast majority of which do not allow civillians to possess firearms.

Nothing in this world is sacrosanct, and the only rights we truly have are those which we can defend. Deep down you know that, which is why you tell yourself it will never happen.

[BlueTiki]

Then we would go to crossbows, man has been perfecting killing each other for millennia.

But the plus side is . . .  no more thoughts and prayers  . . . are required for shooting victims or victims of gun violence!

Now we can use the surplus thoughts and prayers  . . . for all the other types of violence that remains . . .  after we eliminated the guns!

Prioritize needs and begin with baby-steps.

[rothschild]

There is no end to what must be done for weak-minded people to feel safe.

[Duchess]

[BlueTiki]

"Brave" wouldn't have been my choice in adjectives to describe the school-children.

And "Sacrifice" sounds like a religious practice . . . like prayer . . . and should be illegal (if not already) in federally funded schools.