ANOTHER SCHOOL/PUBLIC SHOOTING

[cannongal]

The youth of a nation,   and not teaching our kids how to just accept shit.    Kids are a small speck upon society.   My kid isn't special,  yours isn't either.   Deal with it.

[rothschild]

 There's obviously an agenda to sway public opinion in support of a particular policy

I saw a kid giving advice on how to stay safe in an active shooter situation.

Did you ask yourself why a child that probably has PTSD as a result of what she went through, would be selected for content produced by a political advocacy group?

[Duchess]

Nope. I thought she was a great choice. 

[rothschild]

Nope. I thought she was a great choice. 

Like hell you did.

[Duchess]

This morning I am reading that since the Uvalde school massacre (1 year from tomorrow) there have been 93 gun related laws passed with 56% expanding the access to firearms and benefitting the firearms industry rather than citizens.

[MirahM]

Thats wonderful. /sarcasm

I am taking a course in workplace violence and one of the slides is, "It is costly" and how it is a manager's job to make sure workplace violence doesn't happen.
I get it, I know what they are saying. Of course I will watch for the signs. We had the same classes in the bank-mostly geared at domestic squables since most of the tellers are women they told us to watch out for signs someone may be in a domestic dispute because it could affect all of us at work.

[Duchess]

[Carsman]

The truth is sobering! 

[Duchess]

The United States has surpassed 400 mass shootings this year.

[Clang McFly]

The United States has surpassed 400 mass shootings this year.

America!

[Duchess]

Thoughts & prayers, kids.

[MirahM]

Ouch, I'm just seeing that comic for the first time. Oy

I mean I am 100% sure that when I was in elementary school and my sisters were in highschool, those kids were driving around w/ gun racks and maybe even guns in their trucks and it wasn't an issue. But maybe I'm imagining it.

[Duchess]

You're not imagining it. It was like that where I come from too.

[cannongal]

October 25, 2023


Lewiston,  Maine 
18 people killed,  13 more injured across 2 locations: sparetime recreation (bowling alley), and schemengee's bar and grill.

Shooter identified as Robert Card.  Suspect still on the loose,  considered armed and dangerous.   Everything is currently shut down within an 80 mile radius of lewiston.   

I'll post links in a bit.  Not enough coffee in me yet.

[Duchess]

It's fuckin' sickening, but it's America's standard so it's really just another day in the United States.

[cannongal]

It's fuckin' sickening, but it's America's standard so it's really just another day in the United States.

True,   unfortunately.     New England is in the current state known as cluster fuck.   Police departments all over New England are going to be bonkers until this guy is apprehended or put down.  Yesterday,  my grandsons  school was put into lock down,  because a homeless guy fitting the general description of the shooter was seen lurking in the woods. It was at the end of the school day,  just before the bell.  My bonus daughter was going nuts, she got a text alert that the school was in lockdown,  but no further details.  His school is 2 hrs south of lewiston.    They also shut down part of Rte 93, which is on the western side of New Hampshire,  because someone thought they saw a guy that kinda looked like Card, driving south.    I feel bad for the police departments that are going to be run ragged,  while this guy is still on the loose. 

The thing that I don't understand is that this guy, admitted that there were voices in his head,  telling him to kill people.   They had him in the hospital for 2 weeks on a psych hold,  they knew he had guns because he was a certified firearm instructor,  yet nobody thought to TAKE HIS FUCKING GUNS AWAY FROM HIM  after he was released from the hospital.

[Duchess]

Is it true that he bought that particular gun since the time he was hospitalized? I've read that his family is very pro 2A and that's fine, my comment speaks directly to them telling the authorities that there was an issue with his mental health. There were red flags all over the place.

[cannongal]

I heard from a couple of different sources that he bought a thermal rifle scope 2 weeks ago,  but I haven't heard anything about buying guns. 

It's being said that he started acting erratically during reserve training over the summer.   He threatened to shoot other reservists while training at the saco facility.   Police were called,  and brought him to a hospital,  where he received 'mental health treatment ' for 2 weeks,  then released back into the world. 

Maine does not have red flag laws, (red flag laws allow the automatic confiscation of weapons of an at risk individual)   Maine did pass a type of yellow flag law 4 years ago,  but basically all that law does is allow authorities to keep an eye on you.

To complicate matters further,   rifle season starts today for both New Hampshire and Maine,  and it's not uncommon to see a guy dressed in orange,  walking down the street with a gun slung over his shoulder.   I can't imagine the number of 911 calls that are going to happen,  because of hunters this weekend.

[cannongal]

Lewiston Shootings Timeline per Maine State police: 


• At 6:56 p.m., Wednesday, October 25, 2023 Auburn Communications Center was notified that a man walked into the Spare Time Recreation on Mollison Street in Lewiston and began shooting. This was confirmed by multiple 911 calls that followed.

• At 7:08 p.m., The Auburn Communications Center received multiple calls that a man had come into Schemengees Bar and Grille Restaurant on Lincoln Street and began shooting.

• Multiple law enforcement agencies and emergency medical personnel were dispatched to the scenes.

• At 8:06 pm, police released a photo of the shooter to the media.

• At 9:26 p.m., the Lewiston Police Department received a call identifying the man in the distributed photos as Robert Card, age 40, of Bowdoin, Maine.

• At 9:56 p.m., the Lisbon Police Department notified Lewiston Police that they had located a white Subaru at the Pejepscot Boat Launch in Lisbon. The vehicle was identified as belonging to Robert Card.

• Police have confirmed that there were seven people killed at Sparetime Recreation, and eight people killed at Schemengees Bar and Grille. Three addition people died after being transported to Central Maine Medical Hospital in Lewiston for treatment. An additional 13 people were injured in the shootings.

• Names of the victims are not available at this time as police continue to identify victims and contact family members.

• Currently there are over 350 law enforcement personnel involved in the search for Robert Card, comprised of officers from all over the state, and national agencies as well.

• If anyone has any information on Robert Card or about the shootings please call 207.213.9526 or 207.509.9002.


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Edited to add that this statement was released 20 hours ago. They have since identified and released the names of 10 of the victims who died.

[MirahM]

It's fuckin' sickening, but it's America's standard so it's really just another day in the United States.

The thing that I don't understand is that this guy, admitted that there were voices in his head,  telling him to kill people.   They had him in the hospital for 2 weeks on a psych hold,  they knew he had guns because he was a certified firearm instructor,  yet nobody thought to TAKE HIS FUCKING GUNS AWAY FROM HIM  after he was released from the hospital.

Fucking fuck.

Also, I'm sorry to hear about your family members going through termoil because of this fucker and the people that fail to protect.