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(01-22-2022, 06:52 PM)Duchess Wrote: (01-22-2022, 12:29 PM)Maggot Wrote: The Ukraine was once part of Russia, now they want it back.
Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union and gained its independence when the Soviet Union collapsed. They are a neutral country and are a partner with NATO. NATO needs to do the right thing and stand with them now.
Holy shit, Lizzie gets one right; Christ now I know I'm doomed. Elizabeth I'm coming... (no, not you Lizzie)
When the Soviet Union failed, Ukraine also reclaimed control of The Crimea, which Russia has already stolen back. Now Russia has to control Ukraine to keep them from retaking Crimea. Crimea is the key, with it, Russia controls the Strait of Kerch, which gives them greater access to the Black Sea. Most of Russia's southern naval bases are on the Sea of Azov, which lies directly north of the strait. Because of its location, Crimea has been of strategic importance for 2000 years. Hell, the Muslims and the Crusaders fought there.
NATO is crippled, most of the members are now dependent on the pipeline from Russia for their energy. You aren't going to want to hear this, but that same pipeline was opposed by the Cheeto in Chief because he understood Putin's end game. Putin is trying to rebuild the old Soviet Union. Cheeto was trying to get Europe dependent on our energy; Brandon shutting down our production and distribution and supporting Russia making sense yet? It will.
Folks, history is the key to understanding; I have been saying to educate yourselves for years. Quit listening to the LSM, they have a corporate agenda, and the truth isn't a part of their plan. DC is just feathering their own nests, hell, our State Department has created most of this mess by allowing NGO's the power to work under the table and behind our back.
I hate to say I told you so but remember the corruption scandal in Ukraine I posted about where VP Biden had the Ukraine's lead prosecutor removed for investigating his son's company. You know, the one I was called a crazy conspiracy nut for, yea that one, well it's the beginning of this mess. Go check it out, you will come to the same conclusion I did two three years ago. The money funneled into Ukraine through a series of cut outs from NGOs created by the State Department went to an oligarch named Zlochevsky. He was using the money to defend Crimea from the Russian aggression. The $800,000 salary Hunter was paid by Burisma was a kick back to keep the defense money flowing. Grease the DC machine and shut the fuck up or else.
Sadly, while I despise Trump as a human being and a man, the majority his policies were the right thing for the American people. The establishment destroying Trump make sense yet? Cheeto didn't join the team, he kept working for us. We know most of this because Trump declassified the documents so an honest press would be able to follow the money. Trump was a direct threat to the kick back system that is funneling millions into DC. DC is full of globalists that could care less about us; they have destroyed our government and the things that made us the most powerful nation on earth. There is time to avert civil war - Article V is the solution.
Who's crazy now? Keep believing the press and DC; they will take care of you, they promise. Just ask the Venezuelans how it worked out for them.
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(01-22-2022, 08:20 PM)Duchess Wrote: I don't know if I've ever viewed us as the good guy.
You are right and wrong on this one Lizzie, the freedom loving American citizens are the good guys; our government on the other had not so much. Progressivism has nudged us toward Democracy for 125 years; they have usurped power the Constitution strictly forbids them from having. How long have I been saying, stop trusting DC; progressives have control of both parties. There is no difference between Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer other than the letter after their name. It is time the average citizen takes back control; hopefully, now you will better understand Jan. 6th and why that message and spirit must be crushed by the elite.
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Western Europe looks more communist to me than Russia, Pappy.
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(01-23-2022, 04:42 AM)rothschild Wrote: Western Europe looks more communist to me than Russia, Pappy.
iMHO communism and socialism are interchanged much to freely. I think W.E. and Russia are the same; elitists fighting for control. That is the direct result of Socialism. Communism is perfect, that is why it will never be achieved; man isn't. Engel's and Marx's theories work only on paper; once the transitional step, socialism, is achieved, human nature takes over and mess is all that's left.
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(01-23-2022, 04:59 AM)pyropappy Wrote: (01-23-2022, 04:42 AM)rothschild Wrote: Western Europe looks more communist to me than Russia, Pappy.
iMHO communism and socialism are interchanged much to freely. I think W.E. and Russia are the same; elitists fighting for control. That is the direct result of Socialism. Communism is perfect, that is why it will never be achieved; man isn't. Engel's and Marx's theories work only on paper; once the transitional step, socialism, is achieved, human nature takes over and mess is all that's left.
I think you're being much too kind to Marx. I think he was a fraud as far as philosophy goes, evidenced by the fact that the Communist Manifesto is the sort of cheap political pamphlet that no legit philosopher would admit to authoring, and he contradicts what he'd previously published, where he asserted that a communist revolution would occur organically as a post-industrial phenomenon.
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When it comes right down to it, i worry more about the Southern border getting overwhelmed. Fuck the Goddamn Ukraine.
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I think the usual suspects are setting the stage for crippling cyberattacks. Given how much economic damage has been done by "public health" policies over the last 2 years, they couldn't come at a worse time.
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I don't think Russia or China will do anything till after the Olympic games.
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(01-25-2022, 10:23 PM)Maggot Wrote: I don't think Russia or China will do anything till after the Olympic games.
Russia and China are more sensible than the Biden regime.
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Says the conspiracy minded fruitcake.
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Unvetted, unvaccinated, unregistered, illegal immigration will do more harm to America than anything the Russians can do in the Ukraine. Who is the real American enemy here. I've noticed an uptick in crime from illegal immigrants using Puerto Rican stolen birth certificates fentenal and gang crime is up all this wasn't happening before the borders were opened to everyone.
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There are millions of Americans I would love to be able to trade for immigrants who want to come here and build a better life for themselves. I view them as being so much more deserving of the opportunities here.
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You have to take 2 good ones for every 10 that come over. Thats the problem. None of them has identification so you don't know who they are. Sure there are good ones but they're not in the majority. If even one kills someone, rapes, sells drugs, steals that's one to many.
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(01-29-2022, 11:28 AM)Maggot Wrote: Sure there are good ones but they're not in the majority.
How do you know this? I want to feel as certain as you do.
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(01-30-2022, 07:34 AM)Duchess Wrote: (01-29-2022, 11:28 AM)Maggot Wrote: Sure there are good ones but they're not in the majority.
How do you know this? I want to feel as certain as you do.
Without any papers or identification how do you know? Googling will not help and guessing is just as bad. Are you willing to let 20 gang members come in to allow one pregnant woman with a toddler to cross also. Nobody knows. Border patrol has found gullies filled with Identification that gets tossed before they come here, I wonder why.
It's a mess run by an insane clueless administration.
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(01-30-2022, 07:34 AM)Duchess Wrote: (01-29-2022, 11:28 AM)Maggot Wrote: Sure there are good ones but they're not in the majority.
How do you know this? I want to feel as certain as you do.
Maggot is by and large right, in that you get a mix of people coming across, some good, some not-so-good, and some that fit the stereotypes Trump likes to throw around. Immigration is a process of gradually introducing people into a society in a way that is mutually beneficial. What we have now is chaos.
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Wonderful! That means y'all have something to back up that claim.
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