The Fox Klux Klan get their own little forum at 24!!!!!!!

[SyberBitch]

I've got no problem with a national ID card, but then I have to wear several visible forms of ID at work all the time so the idea isn't that foreign (ha ha) to me.

It doesn't bother me either. Invasion of privacy my ass. The only people concerned with such a thing are those who have something to hide.

[Sinister]

The only people concerned with such a thing are those who have something to hide.

Has it even begun to occur to you - a person of your intelligence - what a slippery slope you're on? ::blink::

[SyberBitch]

Like I said the loonies of the Fox Klux Klan are walking a very fine line at times.

Mentioning veterans with nothing to lose in the same sentence as Barrack Obama (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) isn't fooling anybody with half a brain as to what they actually means and would like to see happen.

The DHS are probably more active now with a black man in the whitehouse than they have ever been before, there have already been numerous arrests of people who have threatened him already.

If president Obama was assassinated tomorrow there would be street parties in every state south of the Mississippi and the DHS know this.

You guys are right, OP. I've personally seen sites taken down and people taken in for less than some of the stuff I've seen reposted from that new forum. Those people think they're being clever by using thinly veiled insinuations, but apparently they don't know that they do NOT have to make direct and specific threats, especially when it concerns the President. If nothing else, it's going to put these people on a watch list. I would be surprised if MF were not contacted and 'politely asked' for the IP info on these individuals.

[SyberBitch]

The only people concerned with such a thing are those who have something to hide.

Has it even begun to occur to you - a person of your intelligence - what a slippery slope you're on? ::blink::

The slope doesn't HAVE to be slippery. Isn't a passport a sort of 'international ID' anyway??

[Luke Warmwater]

::lmao:: Now there's a fair and balanced forum.

Did anyone take a look at the moderators? [user=2292]muddawber[/user], [user=1818]Millennium[/user], [user=807]foxglovepress[/user] ::doh::

[Duchess]

Jesus Christ...No, Luke, no one has a clue who the mods are over there.

[LuMPyPussy]

The only people concerned with such a thing are those who have something to hide.

Has it even begun to occur to you - a person of your intelligence - what a slippery slope you're on? ::blink::

The slope doesn't HAVE to be slippery. Isn't a passport a sort of 'international ID' anyway??

You're obviously not as intelligent as Sinister... but then, who is?

[The Antagonist]

The only people concerned with such a thing are those who have something to hide.

Has it even begun to occur to you - a person of your intelligence - what a slippery slope you're on? ::blink::

The slope doesn't HAVE to be slippery. Isn't a passport a sort of 'international ID' anyway??

So is a drivers license considered government ID.

My boyfriend lost his license for 6 months when he first got to this state for improper license - failure to transfer his license from the state he came from. In NJ they take it away for that shit.

So to go on in life he needed ID from a 'governmental institution'. It does not necessarily need to be a federal ID when one talks of 'government issued ID' .

He had to go to motor vehicles and apply for a State ID. The woman at the desk told him that he can circumvent that and just get a boating license. Then when it comes time to get his drivers license back, it would be a simple swap.

Well, she lied. He got the boating license but it wasn't a simple swap. He had to take the written test given for new licensees to get his license plus pay fees to do so.

But when he applied for the boating license he had to bring 6'points' of identification with him. We have to do this to renew our licenses as well. It is not enough to have your old license and SS# anymore. They send you a list of what kind of documentation is worth whatever many of points to equal 6.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/it's all there.

[Cynical Ninja]

[user=20]The Antagonist[/user] wrote:

So is a drivers license considered government ID.

My boyfriend lost his license for 6 months when he first got to this state for improper license - failure to transfer his license from the state he came from. In NJ they take it away for that shit.

So to go on in life he needed ID from a 'governmental institution'. It does not necessarily need to be a federal ID when one talks of 'government issued ID' .

He had to go to motor vehicles and apply for a State ID. The woman at the desk told him that he can circumvent that and just get a boating license. Then when it comes time to get his drivers license back, it would be a simple swap.

Well, she lied. He got the boating license but it wasn't a simple swap. He had to take the written test given for new licensees to get his license plus pay fees to do so.

But when he applied for the boating license he had to bring 6 'points' of identification with him. We have to do this to renew our licenses as well. It is not enough to have your old license and SS# anymore.  They send you a list of what kind of documentation is worth whatever many of points to equal 6.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/ it's all there.

Nothing interests me more than a fascinating soup chicken style anecdote about someones ID cards.

::

[Lady Cop]

sing to the tune of "Tradition" from Fiddler:

SEDITION!::banana::

HAHA now that song will be stuck in your head all day. ::dlaugh::

[Sinister]

The only people concerned with such a thing are those who have something to hide.

Has it even begun to occur to you - a person of your intelligence - what a slippery slope you're on? ::blink::

The slope doesn't HAVE to be slippery. Isn't a passport a sort of 'international ID' anyway??

It doesn't have to be, but it is. When do you say enough? When do you say the invasion of your privacy has gone too far, whether you have something to hide or not?

[Cynical Ninja]

ID cards do fuck all.

As soon as you create another form of ID you are just creating another underground network of false versions of that ID for sale.

[Sinister]

ID cards do fuck all.

You know this for a fact.....why? You are privvy to the technology government agencies use in creating these cards? The barcode on the back of my license is bad enough; what are they going to come up with next??

[Cynical Ninja]

[user=7]Sinister[/user] wrote:

You know this for a fact.....why?  You are privvy to the technology government agencies use in creating these cards?

Fuck me you are dense today, try reading the whole post next time for fucks sake.

ANY NEW FORM OF ID YOU INTRODUCE WILL JUST PRODUCE A MARKET IN FORGERIES OF THAT ID RENDERING THE WHOLE REASONING FOR THAT NEW ID POINTLESS.

DO

YOU

UNDERSTAND

DIPSHIT?

[Sinister]

Calm down, Poophole; I read the whole post. The fact that there will be forgeries does not mean every person out there will purchase a forgery. Or that the forgeries will pass inspection.

DO

YOU

UNDERSTAND

NOW???

[SyberBitch]

It doesn't have to be, but it is. When do you say enough? When do you say the invasion of your privacy has gone too far, whether you have something to hide or not?

I just don't see how an international form of ID is any more of an invasion of privacy than any other form of government ID. I think it would avert more problems than it would cause, especially with terrorist or international criminals.

That being said, as I'm sure some of you already know, there is now a new federal ID card for government workers. Having been involved in the installation of some of the stations for issuing the new badges, I had to become familiar with the badging processes and all that. There is supposed to be several 'layers' of security that the badging process goes through, to help eliminate fraud. A different person is supposed to handle each phase of the process, however during my time working with the installations, I discovered that in several cases, a single person was handling several different points of the process, therefore *theoretically*, they could have bypassed some of the creditial requirements and allowed people to slip through the badging process who should not have. I'm not saying that happened, of course, only that it could have. The process itself is a good one... IF they actually stuck to their own requirements.

[OnBendedKnee]

There is a certain level of narcissim to think anyone, including a government agency, would care two squats over you or what you're doing (outside of any criminal behavior).

I don't think a national ID card would be effective for the intent displayed above, but the reasons given not to proceed with it is equally as lame.

[Luke Warmwater]

Apparently two of the pig-fucking moderators lurk here because they sure are bitching about this thread.

Hey muddflap...get a fucking job!

Hey milli vanilli, your old lady's rug don't match the drapes!

Now the two of you can eat the corn from my shit.

[LuMPyPussy]

Unlike OP, I don't find those psychos to be funny at all and I would rather have explosive diarrhea than read their mindless, circle-jerk drivel.

[Luke Warmwater]

Yeah, I see where muddflap has the time to fuck-off on the computer all day since he relies on the old lady to bring home the bacon,oh, that ISthe old lady. All he does is bitch about his taxes being spent. Got some news for you pig-fucker, they're not your taxes, they're your old lady's since you apprently don't work.

miss vanilli claims to have three "successful" businesses but finds the time to spout off all day. So how's that construction company working out for you numbnuts? The second business is apparently his wife's and I'm sure there's a strong market today for gaudy kitsch to put in your none existent home. That would leave him with his computer repair shop. I know a couple of teenagers that do the same work out of their parents family room. Yup, the Bush years were wonderful and it is only today that the black bastard Obama fucked us in the ass, eh milli? You lost everything in the past six weeks, huh?

Fuck both of these poor excuses for Americans.

Oh yeah, only the Quakers and the illiterate use "yea"for "yeah". Which are you pin-dick?