TERRORIST ATTACKS: PARIS, MALI, AND MORE

[Blindgreed1]

The hactivist group "Anonymous" has declared war on ISIS...

These were not the 72 virgins they were thinking of.

[Duchess]

Don't y'all long for the good ol' days of the Taliban?

[Midwest Spy]

Don't y'all long for the good ol' days of the Taliban?

Even Al Qaeda seems humane in contrast to these animals.

[Duchess]

Even Al Qaeda seems humane in contrast to these animals.

I want you to know that I don't want them (Muslim refugees) in my community either. I don't like feeling this way. I don't like judging innocent people by the acts of those savages but I don't want them here. I don't even like admitting that.

[Midwest Spy]

Even Al Qaeda seems humane in contrast to these animals.

I want you to know that I don't want them (Muslim refugees) in my community either. I don't like feeling this way. I don't like judging innocent people by the acts of those savages but I don't want them here. I don't even like admitting that.

Our MN Governor can't wait to welcome the refugees with open arms.

If they are legitimate refugees, I can have some compassion. However, how do we know FOR SURE that they're not terrorists coming in with the Trojan horse?

Is that a chance that we HAVE to take?

[Duchess]

If they are legitimate refugees, I can have some compassion. However, how do we know FOR SURE that they're not terrorists coming in with the Trojan horse?

That's exactly how I feel.

I heard a news anchor asking someone who the refugees are and she responded that many are like us, just people living & working and loving their families and wanted safety. Some are doctors and lawyers, engineers, many are educated people.

[Midwest Spy]

If they are legitimate refugees, I can have some compassion. However, how do we know FOR SURE that they're not terrorists coming in with the Trojan horse?

That's exactly how I feel.

I heard a news anchor asking someone who the refugees are and she responded that many are like us, just people living & working and loving their families and wanted safety. Some are doctors and lawyers, engineers, many are educated people.

That'd be great.

Even better would be that these folks can come and assimilate into our society, work, pay taxes and be more than just a financial burden for us.

[Duchess]

I didn't verify this map -

[Maggot]

Say that a person from Germany, Japan, Sweden, South Korea any normal country wanted to come to America. The state department would go to that country and ask for criminal records, domestic problems contractual diseases etc. If that person was reported by their governments as an asshole they could not come here.
A refugee does not have that problem, they are "asked" questions about themselves that they would answer themselves. No previous government check up like any country could provide would not be vetted.
That is the difference. If the daesh wanted to send in a few trial people to see the process that would be no problem, in fact they would be stupid not to try.
It only takes a few out of 10,000 not 100. That is the reality. I'm sure today there are some in the U.S. waiting as a welcoming committee for the ones that will come.

[Mohammed]

What Daesh is trying to do is simply make the Western culture hate anything Muslim. Why? Because just like in Syria with Sunni and Shia, they can tell those Muslims then "See, come to us and you will be taken care of as those others just want to hurt you!"

I think you're right that Daesh benefits from anti-Muslim sentiment in the West. It helps bolster their rhetoric regarding the evil infidels, allows Daesh to attract Western recruits who are themselves disgruntled with Western society, and gets Daesh the media exposure they crave in order to grow their forces.

I don't know all the motives of Al Bagdadi and others at the very top of the Daesh chain, of course. But, in my opinion, terrorizing the West is one of the means to an end, not the end goal itself. I believe Daesh when they proclaim that the establishment of a caliphate in Syria, Iraq and the Levant is their ultimate goal. I believe they are sincerely committed to an Islamic State ruled by archaic laws and (unlike al-Qaeda) Daesh/ISIL needs the land specified in the Koran to accomplish their fundamentalist mission.

The Kurds have been kicking ass on the ground in Iraq and Syria, with the help of the U.S., France, and the coalition in the air and in advisory capacities. Key Daesh managers and propaganda figures have been assassinated. Key caliphate-marked land has been reclaimed from Daesh. I think Daesh feels they're entitled to that land and will keep fighting for it until all of their foot soldiers are dead and the new recruits dry up.

In the meantime, they'll keep terrorizing and retaliating against those who stand in their way - including Russia and the West - but by far the majority of their victims are reasonable Muslims who reject and refuse to legitimize them.

What is Daesh!

Imagine taking all the Ghettos and Slums of all the cities, all the gangs, disillusioned young guys high on testosterone, which are many, putting them together, giving them a corporate board with an excellent professional background, hope, a feeling or worth, and a huge financial backup of 2 billion dollars, and give them an environment to go wild.

You got a quite a problem of gang violence in the States, that's Daesh! Only they got more cash, training, and backup to do their shit.

[Mohammed]

Say that a person from Germany, Japan, Sweden, South Korea any normal country wanted to come to America. The state department would go to that country and ask for criminal records, domestic problems contractual diseases etc. If that person was reported by their governments as an asshole they could not come here.
A refugee does not have that problem, they are "asked" questions about themselves that they would answer themselves. No previous government check up like any country could provide would not be vetted.
That is the difference. If the daesh wanted to send in a few trial people to see the process that would be no problem, in fact they would be stupid not to try.
It only takes a few out of 10,000 not 100. That is the reality. I'm sure today there are some in the U.S. waiting as a welcoming committee for the ones that will come.

You know nothing!

[pyropappy]

I have said this before, educate your selves, and do it quick.

The difference between the names is subtle and has everything to do with Islamic history. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi the leader of ISIL, ISIS or Daesh did not take that name by chance. Abu Bakr was Muhammad's senior adviser and became Caliph upon his death around 630 A.D. He expanded the Caliphate to the Levant (Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Turkey, Northern Africa, Spain and Southern France). They were held in check by the Roman Empire centered in Constantinople. When they conquered Constantinople they created the Ottoman Empire which controlled the Caliphate.

Around 770 A.D. Charlemagne consolidated the European kingdoms into the Holy Roman Empire to thwart further aggression from the Muslims. They have fought over the region for centuries.

Understand they call the entire west Romans because Pope Clement started the Crusades to reclaim "The Holy Lands" around 1300 A.D. At that time the seat of the church was Avignon France. The French Crusaders defeated the Moors and pushed them out of France and Spain back to Northern Africa. They have fought for control of Jerusalem (the birthplace of Christ) for the past 1500 years.

WWI was waged to defeat the Ottoman Empire, and break up the Caliphate. The Turks who controlled the Caliphate were brutal to the Arab tribes indigenous to Arabia and Mesopotamia. The Brits and French promised the Arab tribes autonomy (reestablishment of the Caliphate in Damascus) if they helped defeat the Turks. The tribes agreed and the Brits sent T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) to advise their armies. But unbeknownst to them two diplomats Mark Sykes and François Georges-Picot negotiated a treaty to split up the area between the two countries. They would divide up the tribes and set up a strong man to keep the tribes in check. This treaty created the basic map of the Middle East as we know it today.

The only significant change to the map was the addition of Israel and Palestine at the end of WWII. The surrounding Arab countries absorbed Palestine but Israel was able to hold off their combined armies.

You need to understand “radical” Islam has been around for 1500 years. It is an ideology bent on world domination. If they are successful you will have three choices: convert to their version of Islam, pay the jizya (tax on non Muslims) or die. This is why al-Baghdadi has killed many Muslims, the Yazidis and the Christians, they do not practice his form of Islam.

They are fighting a holy war; they believe their scriptures, the Quran and the Hadith give them permission to carry out these acts. Remember the first war America fought was against radical Islam; Jefferson refused to pay the jizya and the Barbary Pirates captured American vessels to hold the sailors hostage to get the payments. If you have never been to the Naval Academy the trip is worth just to see the Tripoli Monument.

Read their rhetoric, it is full of the history of their conquests and victories. It is the reason behind what they are doing. They are obliterating the lines created by Sykes-Picot. They are trying to establish the Caliphate and hasten the end times. They want to draw the “armies of Rome” into a final battle to complete their world domination. If you hear of the west attacking Dabiq Syria all hell will then cut loose. That is where Islamic prophecy says The Madhi will rise and lead them to victory.

Do not be surprised if al-Baghdadi or one of his successors starts referring to themselves as the Madhi. If you do not know the prophecy of the Madhi, learn it. Tell everyone you know because if the politicians are foolish enough to press on, WW3 will be hell on earth. The only solution will be to kill every last one of them: men, women and children. They have been fighting for 1500 years and they will fight for 1500 more if that is what it takes. They are waging a holy war; you don’t have to believe, just remember they do.

[Duchess]

Why do we have to educate ourselves quickly? Do you expect to run into terrorists?

I blame the media for turning me into an intolerant bastard.

[Maggot]

Say that a person from Germany, Japan, Sweden, South Korea any normal country wanted to come to America. The state department would go to that country and ask for criminal records, domestic problems contractual diseases etc. If that person was reported by their governments as an asshole they could not come here.
A refugee does not have that problem, they are "asked" questions about themselves that they would answer themselves. No previous government check up like any country could provide would not be vetted.
That is the difference. If the daesh wanted to send in a few trial people to see the process that would be no problem, in fact they would be stupid not to try.
It only takes a few out of 10,000 not 100. That is the reality. I'm sure today there are some in the U.S. waiting as a welcoming committee for the ones that will come.

You know nothing!

[Duchess]

Hahaha!

[crash]

More shit going down in Paris in the news here tonight. Reports that a female suspect blew herself up as authorities closed in. Another seven were arrested. Five police officers wounded/injured but no reports of fatalities from the good guys.

[Mohammed]

Say that a person from Germany, Japan, Sweden, South Korea any normal country wanted to come to America. The state department would go to that country and ask for criminal records, domestic problems contractual diseases etc. If that person was reported by their governments as an asshole they could not come here.
A refugee does not have that problem, they are "asked" questions about themselves that they would answer themselves. No previous government check up like any country could provide would not be vetted.
That is the difference. If the daesh wanted to send in a few trial people to see the process that would be no problem, in fact they would be stupid not to try.
It only takes a few out of 10,000 not 100. That is the reality. I'm sure today there are some in the U.S. waiting as a welcoming committee for the ones that will come.

You know nothing!

[Mohammed]

I have said this before, educate your selves, and do it quick.

The difference between the names is subtle and has everything to do with Islamic history. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi the leader of ISIL, ISIS or Daesh did not take that name by chance. Abu Bakr was Muhammad's senior adviser and became Caliph upon his death around 630 A.D. He expanded the Caliphate to the Levant (Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Turkey, Northern Africa, Spain and Southern France). They were held in check by the Roman Empire centered in Constantinople. When they conquered Constantinople they created the Ottoman Empire which controlled the Caliphate.

Around 770 A.D. Charlemagne consolidated the European kingdoms into the Holy Roman Empire to thwart further aggression from the Muslims. They have fought over the region for centuries.

Understand they call the entire west Romans because Pope Clement started the Crusades to reclaim "The Holy Lands" around 1300 A.D. At that time the seat of the church was Avignon France. The French Crusaders defeated the Moors and pushed them out of France and Spain back to Northern Africa. They have fought for control of Jerusalem (the birthplace of Christ) for the past 1500 years.

WWI was waged to defeat the Ottoman Empire, and break up the Caliphate. The Turks who controlled the Caliphate were brutal to the Arab tribes indigenous to Arabia and Mesopotamia. The Brits and French promised the Arab tribes autonomy (reestablishment of the Caliphate in Damascus) if they helped defeat the Turks. The tribes agreed and the Brits sent T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) to advise their armies. But unbeknownst to them two diplomats Mark Sykes and François Georges-Picot negotiated a treaty to split up the area between the two countries. They would divide up the tribes and set up a strong man to keep the tribes in check. This treaty created the basic map of the Middle East as we know it today.

The only significant change to the map was the addition of Israel and Palestine at the end of WWII. The surrounding Arab countries absorbed Palestine but Israel was able to hold off their combined armies.

You need to understand “radical” Islam has been around for 1500 years. It is an ideology bent on world domination. If they are successful you will have three choices: convert to their version of Islam, pay the jizya (tax on non Muslims) or die. This is why al-Baghdadi has killed many Muslims, the Yazidis and the Christians, they do not practice his form of Islam.

They are fighting a holy war; they believe their scriptures, the Quran and the Hadith give them permission to carry out these acts. Remember the first war America fought was against radical Islam; Jefferson refused to pay the jizya and the Barbary Pirates captured American vessels to hold the sailors hostage to get the payments. If you have never been to the Naval Academy the trip is worth just to see the Tripoli Monument.

Read their rhetoric, it is full of the history of their conquests and victories. It is the reason behind what they are doing. They are obliterating the lines created by Sykes-Picot. They are trying to establish the Caliphate and hasten the end times. They want to draw the “armies of Rome” into a final battle to complete their world domination. If you hear of the west attacking Dabiq Syria all hell will then cut loose. That is where Islamic prophecy says The Madhi will rise and lead them to victory.

Do not be surprised if al-Baghdadi or one of his successors starts referring to themselves as the Madhi. If you do not know the prophecy of the Madhi, learn it. Tell everyone you know because if the politicians are foolish enough to press on, WW3 will be hell on earth. The only solution will be to kill every last one of them: men, women and children. They have been fighting for 1500 years and they will fight for 1500 more if that is what it takes. They are waging a holy war; you don’t have to believe, just remember they do.

Seriously? It's going back to Galigula fucking his horse and making him a member of parliament?

Yes, it does go back in history, but what does any movement need? Cash! And that cash is coming in from a different time scale as in now! And "radical" Islam has not been around for 1500 years because Islam itself only got established by the birth of Mohammed 1445 years ago. The radical Islam we see now comes from Saudi Wahabism a few years back.

You are full of shit sir!

[pyropappy]

Why do we have to educate ourselves quickly? Do you expect to run into terrorists?

I blame the media for turning me into an intolerant bastard.

I am older than most of you; I lived through this history. I knew not to trust any one; I had to do my own home work to find the truth.

It is important to understand the history of this mess so you can listen to all the politicians, the media and bureaucrats to know who is telling the truth. You need to do it quickly because the excrement has already hit the rotary oscillator. If this country does not choose wisely this time, WW3 will be fought here as well as Europe, Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

We have supported all the dictators since the end of WW1 because they kept these people in check. The Muslim Brotherhood formed after WW1; their goal was to cobble together the Islamists from the various tribes to create instability to overthrow the dictators and reestablish the Caliphate.
They fomented unrest for many years.

Carter started the ball rolling by not backing the Shah of Iran; when the Shah fell the Islamist's took control. This gave them a base to start operations. Who did Islamists first attack? Remember the Iran Iraq war in the 1980's. They tried to unseat Hussein to unite Mesopotamia and begin the quest to establish the Caliphate. They created Hezbollah and Hamas to create chaos in Egypt, Lebanon to surround Israel. Remember the Jews controlled Jerusalem and they want it back. Jerusalem is the key because that is where the water is.

I can tell you Old Man Bush understood this; that is why they did not remove Hussein from power during Gulf War 1. His only intention was to force him from Kuwait. The coalition never attacked Baghdad because they wanted Hussein in control in Iraq.

In 1979 Russia invaded Afghanistan because they were invited in by the Socialistic Government formed after the Saur Revolution. This turned out badly because factions inside Afghanistan saw this as occupation by the "Romans" again. When Constantinople fell the Holy Roman Empire was moved to Crimea inside Russia. The Mujahideen of the Northern Alliance were Islamists opposed to the occupation. Supported by the CIA and other Islamists they bloodied Russia's nose and forced them to withdraw.
We withdraw and a vacuum is created; voila Al Qaeda is born.

At the same time Reagan put more pressure on and forced the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Soviets had to withdraw from many other areas including the Balkans to keep control of the Motherland. The Russian peasants tired of not having stuff readily available in he west put the final nail in the Soviet coffin.

Emboldened by the Islamist victory in Iran and Afghanistan the the Islamists in the Balkans attacked the Serbs and Croats in Bosnia. They were in the minority and the Serbs did not take kindly to the affront of being told to convert or pay the jizya. So they killed the Islamists by the thousands.

Old man Bush steps in and protects the Muslims and negotiates a truce. Cyrus Vance negotiates a treaty, but before it could be ratified Clinton takes office. Clinton scrapped the treaty and started from scratch Why did Clinton do that? As I understand it, Clinton's campaign was heavily funded by the Muslim Brotherhood. Vance's treaty did not label the Serbs "war criminals". His treaty did; in my opinion it was quid pro quo to the brotherhood for the cash. This and what happened in Somalia are the two big reasons why I have no respect for Clinton. All the other scandals are just icing.

Bring on Bush Jr. and 9/11. He attacks Afghanistan to remove the Taliban and find OBL. While fighting the Taliban the decision was made to invade Iraq next. Believe me, he was told point blank what would happen; with Hussein gone they would open a really big can of worms. He did it any way; that is why I am not to fond of Jr. Nation building is never a good idea.

Which brings us to Obama; his support of the Arab Spring toppled dictators in Egypt and Libya. This created the wave of refugees invading Europe. His premature withdraw from Iraq destabilized that region. ISIL took advantage and cobbled together Sunni Muslims to seize control. His support of Islamists in Libya allowed the flow of weapons to Islamists in Syria.

Wow, the Middle East is on fire. The Islamists control Iraq, most of Syria, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen and Somalia, Gaza, Lebanon. A different sect of Islamists control Iran. The people of Egypt see what happens when the Brotherhood takes over and want no part of it. The moderates seize control and oust Morsi. The Islamists now have Israel, Jordan and the Saudis surrounded. They will continue to fight to acquire those countries and reacquire Egypt.

The Levant is almost complete; they are turning their attention to Europe. Eventually they will come for us in earnest. They need to defeat all the armies of Rome to fulfill their prophecy. Once we are defeated the Sunnis and Shia will fight for ultimate control of the Caliphate.

Which politicians or media outlets are telling you this? Who is telling you to prepare? The Muslim Brotherhood has developed "The Plan" to foment unrest in the west; I have posted links to it several times. You better read it, and understand it. They are dividing us so when the war starts here we will turn on each other. That will make their job easier.

We survive this by staying together; find common ground with the people you disagree with. We need to choose very carefully; otherwise we will be defeated.

[Midwest Spy]

Pappy, I appreciate what you've told us.

And, I actually believe it as well.

If bet 98% of Westerners have no idea about the history of Islam and what they truly desire.

How do we get Moderate Muslims to take more of a stand? Why can't they tell the world what these extremists are after? Are all Muslims truly seking this Levant/Caliphate?