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[BigMark]

Puta madre!

[Maggot]

The Mexicans that came here legally are on Trumps side. At least they can vote legally. If that even means anything to a Democrat.

[BigMark]

Or get beaten because of your race.

[Carsman]

The Hill is really a piece of work!

Have said it before, and now again, it's unfortunate she was the best the Dems could put up
against the Trumpeteer!

[HairOfTheDog]

The Mexicans that came here legally are on Trumps side. At least they can vote legally. If that even means anything to a Democrat.

What in the hell makes you think you’re qualified to speak for most or all ‘legal’ Mexicans?

You’re not. Neither am I nor anyone else, but most of us aren’t deluded enough to think we are.

The fact is that Trump got 28% of the Hispanic and Latino vote. He did not get most of the votes, not by a long shot. And, there is not one bit of evidence that undocumented Mexican immigrants voted for anyone.

If this truth makes you feel any better: Trump did get more of the Latino vote than did Romney and Clinton got a lower turn out from Latinos than did Obama.

[BigMark]

If you're a legal Mexican does that make you qualified?

[HairOfTheDog]

If you're a legal Mexican does that make you qualified?

About as qualified as you are to tell us how every other big white dude thinks and feels about the president or anything else.

(Hint: that means ‘no’ Biggie)

[BigMark]

That's news to me, 90% of my living blood relatives are 100 percent Latino. I put the panic in Hispanic whitegirl!

[HairOfTheDog]

Good to know Biggie.

But that still leaves you 100% unqualified to speak for all or most big dudes, ‘legal Mexicans’, or crackas like me.

[BigMark]

Yup, changes the narrative again. I think you wrote the lunatic left playbook.

[HairOfTheDog]

You’re dopey Biggie. I haven’t changed any narrative, I’ve only confirmed what I already posted. Read, dude. Just read. I said nobody is qualified to speak for the thoughts and feelings of all or most ‘legal Mexicans’ or anyone else. That means you still aren’t qualified to speak for most or all big white dudes, big Latino dudes, small white chicks, or any other category of people......regardless of your ethnicity.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

If you're a legal Mexican does that make you qualified?

One of the good and bad things about our system is that the only "Qualification" required to vote is adulthood and citizenship.
The good thing about it is the ideal is still alive that everyone's vote counts no matter background.
The bad thing is that everyone's vote counts no matter background.

As to the voter fraud, the evidence is out there, I just don't think it matters anymore, the cheating side lost. There are many articles out there on the net documenting cases of voter fraud, some illegals, some dead folks, some voting more than once etc...Best I can remember none of them were on Trumps side, maybe there were but I never saw them. Some are bullshit, I know, but not all or even most I would suspect

[HairOfTheDog]

If you're a legal Mexican does that make you qualified?

One of the good and bad things about our system is that the only "Qualification" required to vote is adulthood and citizenship.
The good thing about it is the ideal is still alive that everyone's vote counts no matter background.
The bad thing is that everyone's vote counts no matter background.

As to the voter fraud, the evidence is out there, I just don't think it matters anymore, the cheating side lost. There are many articles out there on the net documenting cases of voter fraud, some illegals, some dead folks, some voting more than once etc...Best I can remember none of them were on Trumps side, maybe there were but I never saw them. Some are bullshit, I know, but not all or even most I would suspect

I'd love to see some of those many articles which provide evidence that illegals, dead folks, double voting.......is a real issue in American elections Six.

I'm not talking about propaganda claims based on voter registration logs, but actual votes. We already know that people die after they register, people move and appear on registration logs in two different locales, etc. That's an administrative/clerical issue, but it doesn't equate to voter fraud obviously.

The claim of 'widespread voter fraud' has been investigated thoroughly so many times. Credible investigations have all concluded that voter fraud is exceedingly rare, virtually non-existent. Here's a compilation of some of those studies: https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/r...aud-claims

Top Republican leaders have come out and stated unequivocally that voter fraud is not a real problem. Still, President Trump put together a Republican-only group to investigate it in the 2016 elections. I'll be interested in hearing their findings once they've been reviewed and verified by an independent or bi-partisan review board.

[Duchess]

I'd love to see some of those many articles which provide evidence that illegals, dead folks, double voting.......

Me too! I read/watched/listened to a great about this subject after the election when trump started crying the blues about Hillary winning the popular vote, he insisted it was because millions of people had voted illegally. It was everywhere for quite awhile. There was no evidence to substantiate his baseless claims and that came from the Left AND the Right.

[Maggot]

There is no voting fraud or evidence of at least until it's found.

let the buses roll.

[HairOfTheDog]

Mags, that article you linked is no evidence at all of voter fraud.

It's only insinuation and spin about something we already know and has been previously researched in prior investigations.

People use valid out of state driver's licenses as IDs all the time; I hire people who've moved and haven't gotten new licenses many a time. They're still legal forms of identification.

People move across states, students often don't get new driver's licenses when they go to out-of-state colleges, people travel to other states for long periods of time (which sometimes encompass an election/voting period) without updating their driver's licenses. There's no law against it; that would be voter suppression against American citizens in a federal election.

If you want to make a case that some of those people are driving in New Hampshire with out of state licenses, past the grace period allowed by law, go get 'em. They could probably be cited for that.

Anyway, get back to me if/when further investigation reveals that some of those on the New Hampshire voting register with out of state licenses voted in the same election in more than one state. I'll strongly support their prosecutions for voter fraud.

[Maggot]

Voter fraud is out there. I believe more so in the smaller elections though.

pdf heritage foundation

[HairOfTheDog]

1,088 proven instances of voter fraud across 50 states over the course of thousands of elections over a period of at least 10 years -- that's what the Heritage Foundation PDF you posted claims, Mags.

Some of the cases cited didn't merit prosecution. Even if they're all valid cases (many are under appeal), that qualifies as a "very rare" level of incidence.

Plus, reading through the cases highlighted, several of them don't involve fraudulent votes cast at all.

I don't doubt that there is occasionally an instance of fraudulent voting in this country and I support prosecution in those cases. But, what you posted only confirms what's been concluded in the other comprehensive studies over the years -- voter fraud is exceedingly rare.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Well this only took a minute or two
Canvassers for Dem-tied group charged in voter registration fraud scheme
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/...tions.html

UPDATE: Man facing felony charges in Nevada voter fraud case
http://www.ktnv.com/news/contact-13/cont...tions-case

21-year-old heading to prison for creating 18 fraudulent voter-registration forms
http://www.businessinsider.com/andrew-sp...ion-2017-6

Three in Florida, Virginia charged with voter fraud
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKCN12S213


My copy and paste finger got tired

[Maggot]

Its not that the amount of voter fraud is rampant its the constant vehement assertion from the Democrats proclaiming it's absolutely ridiculous. Why do they really care? you never know the Republicans could be up to their armpits in voter fraud. Why not look for the sake of well being.