Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Freshbait78]

Not sure but I think you have to state that it's rumor, hear say or opinion & not fact?

[RaisingAPrince]

Is it appropriate to post here what has been said on other websites by people claiming to have known JC and/or LS? If so, I have one or two things to post here.

YES. POST IT.

I agree, even tho LadyCop might want to address this one.

I did see other posters putting quotes from other sites on here previously!

[Duchess]

Is it appropriate to post here what has been said on other websites by people claiming to have known JC and/or LS? If so, I have one or two things to post here.

I think if you refer to the sticky that LC has posted both in her sig line & at the top of LC's Cell Block that may answer your question.

[Freshbait78]

Sabrina H Admin, could you please private message me. It is very important
11 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub ‎@Sabrina: You can e-mail me at find.hailey.dunn@ 2 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Sabrina H Please remove your email address from the page admin. I can't email you. Please private message me. Trolls are targeting this page. I will private message you the link to where they have posted your page to target. They can track you through your email.
23 minutes ago · LikeUnlike.

This was just up on the Justice for JC & LS page & now it's gone. Forgive me for my ignorance but Trolls? Why would they be targeting the page? Would this person be referring to a forum such as this one as trolls?

[BlueTiki]

You don't even have to be on Myspace to get those things. It's just a bunch of span and adds now like those things.

Also, in reference to the Cuban tattoo that both he and his father share....it's probably because they're Cuban..duh.

Gee, no shit? Duh.

Thanks, RJ . . .

I forgot the "Gloria Estefan and the Miami Sound Machine" theory, too!

[ZEROSPHERES]

My take on your questions... could always be wrong though

Ref: Freshbait78....I like your take on the questions and IMO you are really following these strings and using your head....Thanks

[EastCoastKat]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7947443

This is a video for the benefit at that Jax bar. They say that LE HAS SAID OFFICIALLY THAT IT IS LINKED TO A ROBBERY THAT HAS GONE WRONG.

[Lady Cop]

Is it appropriate to post here what has been said on other websites by people claiming to have known JC and/or LS? If so, I have one or two things to post here.

you may post anything that's public info. but i don't want to cite other forums. just the comments that they made public. thanks!
mostly we just want to use common sense and not throw innocent people under the bus.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Would this person be referring to a forum such as this one as trolls?

Het I better go back under my bridge and check my computer

[angeleyes81]

Would this person be referring to a forum such as this one as trolls?

Het I better go back under my bridge and check my computer

lmao

[shitstorm]

Why the fuck do {some} people keep saying this is a cold case? Also, I read someone else say that in this day & age EVERYONE has been in trouble in some fashion. Nothing could be further from the truth. No, not everyone has had run ins with the law, maybe in the circles you travel in people have. That's a bullshit response & speaks volumes about the caliber of people you surround yourself with.

Thank you, on both counts.

Hopefully, the sheriff's dept aren't Keystone cops (like Boulder PD) and arrests are about to come down.

As for this BS about "we all make mistakes" - well, yeah, but not violent crime.

[an0n]

I think that by LE officially saying it's a 'robbery gone wrong' is the equivalent to them saying the investigation isn't going anywhere. Which, IMO is BULL because even on here TONS of points have been brought up that need to be investigated.

[Lady Cop]

Would this person be referring to a forum such as this one as trolls?

Het I better go back under my bridge and check my computer

lmao

we're trolls? did they name MOCK? i'd love to see that.
hell, i think most people here are responsible posters.

[RJs-Ex]

just wanted to say I have enjoyed watching what everyone has to say .. I actually didn't know about this until I glanced at it at my moms house on NG.. ever since then I have been very interested on how this will all pan out! I looked at ms t facebook and did anyone notice she had only become friends with LS around the 22^nd of Jan? This is such a tragic event! [/b][/size][/font]To see two kids lose their lives like that... I also wanted to ask had anyone noticed LS myspace ? The only recent activity it shows is that she earned a badge for looking at other peoples profile ON THE 31^st OF JAN!! Maybe I'm in the wrong but didn't MS T talk to JC and LS last the night of the 30^th of Jan @11pm? Wondered if any of you guys seen that on her myspace? Thanks for your time!

( 1.
Jan 31
LEEEEESAAAAA
LEEEEESAAAAA just earned the Looky Loo badge.

*
Your profile browsing is really paying off.)

Maybe the killer(s) checked JC's & LS's phones that night for text msgs or to see who they'd been talking to right before they showed up? And if they're looking thru the phones and LS has the FB or MySpace apps on her phone, someone could post (or look thru profiles) as her easily.

[BlueTiki]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7947443

LE HAS SAID OFFICIALLY THAT IT IS LINKED TO A ROBBERY THAT HAS GONE WRONG.

Robbery NOT Burglary.

"Person" NOT "Structure".

This should add to the discussion.

[Freshbait78]

Would this person be referring to a forum such as this one as trolls?

Het I better go back under my bridge and check my computer

lmao

we're trolls? did they name MOCK? i'd love to see that.
hell, i think most people here are responsible posters.

LMAO No they didn't name Mock, just said there were trolls looking at the page or targeting the page. I'm ignorant to computer lingo, the only trolls I know are the ones under the bridge LOL but I have heard the term "trolls" or "trolling" before on message boards & forums & have taken it to be a negative. Just wondering aloud why anyone would be trolling a FB page about a couple of murdered kids. When the woman said please private message me, it's important, it caught my attention that's all.

[shitstorm]

Was just looking on FB at the Justice for Johnny & Lisa page & found this:

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Tiffanny williams her boyfriend does home invasions and is in n out of prison. She is the same girl that set up jonathan jackson to get robbed by donald her boyfriend at tge time and jonathan got robbed by them but had gun andvin self defense shot her boyfriend donald and killed him on arlington last year
17 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Maytee La Cubana Vazquez She had a car tha nite she is a liar wen she called johnny she was goin out there to shoot pool with someone else i know in my heart she set him up she also stated she went by hoise several times after call and seen house ramsacked then she waits two hours to call someone to call me i hope she rots in hell that bitch ugh im sorry about my profanity but she is guilty as sin
17 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personKathy Anderson-Powers likes this..


You can read the whole conversation by going to the page & clicking on the "Just Others" link at the top. It's the 11^th comment down, started by a male with the initials S.N. (not sure I can state his name here) Just thought some may be interested.

Interesting. It will be these people, in that social circle, who will probably break the case.

It's amazing how illiterate this bunch is. Scarier yet is it seems like most of them mention graduating HS on their own FB pages.

[Lady Cop]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7947443

LE HAS SAID OFFICIALLY THAT IT IS LINKED TO A ROBBERY THAT HAS GONE WRONG.

Robbery NOT Burglary.

"Person" NOT "Structure".

This should add to the discussion.

absolutely correct distinction.
who is this convict character? do we know?
if it's Tiffany's boyfriend that helps me again to look in her direction for this.

i have to laugh, every imbecile on earth has a facebook or myspace to help investigators. and their musings can be used in court.

[TotallyCurious]

How can Tiffany tell that Johnny's phone had been shut off?
I just checked mine and it goes to voice mail on the same number
of rings whether on or off.

[shitstorm]

There is very deliberate social engineering going on, in America, to lower the level of morals and intelligence in this country. It's been going on since LBJ's Great Society was implemented. A well known journalist called it a coursening of our society. Once again, this is DELIBERATE. Mediums like the arts are an important weapon, aimed at young people. The crap like MTV, VH1, and the agenda of multiculturalism all play a significant part in this war on American culture and values. The mainstreaming of the gangsta culture via music, especially, is extremely troubling. You may have noticed that Lisa and her sister, in some of the pics, are doing those stupid hand gestures. Of course, that originated with gangs. I think lots of parents have no clue how vile and corrupting these influences are. It's very insidious and has crept into the greater culture over generations. 30 years ago you would have NEVER seen girls like that associating with the likes of Tiffany and Johnny. Unfortunately, this cross-culture mixing is becoming more common. Unless a parent keeps their kid away from modern media, it's very hard to keep these influences from contaminating them. Even in places as far as Russia you see American gang banger culture in their music. It's really sickening. I could write a book on this but you get my drift.

Excellent Post!


Saying multiculturism contributes broadly is an extremely broad
statement. Many cultures find Americans over the top. Many
parents control tv viewing and do home schooling and participate
in home school activities just to avoid much of the corrupting
influences.

I agree that there is a malignant evil at work here, but I take
exception that it is due to 'cross-culture mixing.' I would rather
place blame towards the movie industry, poor education, loss of
personal integrity, too loose government hand outs. and children
being left alone too many hours a day --- for a start.

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The passage by shitsome above has been singled out by many posters as exceptionally accurate and insighteful. Shitsome has followed up by pointing out that the decay is more sinister and calculated and has its roots in the UK in an organization...."Tavistock"..Tavistock Institute: Building Absolute Mind Control for the New World Order


http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2008/06...y-see.html
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Thanks for that blog link. I'll have to read it.

I might be a lousy detective in these true crime dramas but I'm a LONG TIME conspiracy researcher and I know of what I speak. Multiculturalism is a weapon of mass destruction, used to destroy homogeneous societies to make them ripe for political take over. The demons behind it use words like "tolerance" and attack their opposition with charges of "racism" when their agenda gets called out.

When I saw that Maytee's name included "Cubana" I wondered if her people came over here in the Mariel (sp) boat lift. That's when Castro let out Cuba's worst criminals to come to the US and Jimmy Carter let them all in. This would have been the ilk portrayed in the movie, Scarface. Another wonderful example of tolerance and muticulturalism that, essentially, turned Florida into a crime ridden, drug infested, shithole.