02-09-2011, 08:34 PM
OK BACK TO TOPIC NOW. thankyou!
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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
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02-09-2011, 08:38 PM
(02-09-2011, 08:23 PM)Cracker Wrote: Who wants to read 100 pages of illiteracy to get to the few good posts? Go ahead. Tell me she's wrong. I suggest you start a thread in "Some Honest Therapy" if you wish to respond. Be prepared to back up your . . . ahem . . . "facts". 
02-09-2011, 08:39 PM
I wont even try to have you understand cause while I find out more from maytee and john i will know the truth, it was the first time i have done this and what i got out of it is how the public see and thinks without knowing shit,, it is cool to sit and read thoughts of others but to be honest like i said before some of it is very true and some not, so you keep trying to figure it out, you can tell i dont use the pc much and thats ok the only reason i got on here was because a comment that i knew was not true, so u enjoy and when it is all said in done i will post a pic that nobody has seen so proof is at you i can say more but wont even do they are friends and it will all come out, they way you posted 88 pages blah blah, seemed as if you were not wanting to be in the forum when everyone else did.........................
02-09-2011, 08:45 PM
I just saw the news and they said Cracker is an expert and known for doing muddy buttpipe.
02-09-2011, 08:47 PM
(02-09-2011, 08:39 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote: I wont even try to have you understand cause while I find out more from maytee and john i will know the truth, it was the first time i have done this and what i got out of it is how the public see and thinks without knowing shit,, it is cool to sit and read thoughts of others but to be honest like i said before some of it is very true and some not, so you keep trying to figure it out, you can tell i dont use the pc much and thats ok the only reason i got on here was because a comment that i knew was not true, so u enjoy and when it is all said in done i will post a pic that nobody has seen so proof is at you i can say more but wont even do they are friends and it will all come out, they way you posted 88 pages blah blah, seemed as if you were not wanting to be in the forum when everyone else did......................... Something is seriously wrong with your computers formatting. All the periods you put throughout your post moved themselves to the end of your post.
02-09-2011, 08:48 PM
i've never locked a thread, but i am going to if the personal attack bullshit continues.
please get back to topic.  there are other areas here where you can trash each other. 
02-09-2011, 08:49 PM
(02-09-2011, 07:21 PM)Methusala Wrote: LadyCop, I'm local and I'll try and help answer this ...best I can that is. I would say that the TPD has more officers, resources, scope, experience, etc. TPD has many many detectives...vice, gang unit, crimes against people, special victims unit, cold case unit, etc. Our sheriff is a crook...but that's a whole other topic! I'm not sure that the sheriff deputies are all that experienced in this type of crime...which is why the FBI got involved (or so I heard). our sheriff deputies here in lucas county mostly keep watch over the housing projects and the jail... in no way do I want to sound demeaning to them... they also patrol the country roads which are in lucas county and outside of toledo city limits... I don't believe that their detective bureau is as experienced or as big as TPD.... the city of holland has a very small police dept. I have NO idea on exact numbers though... 
02-09-2011, 08:53 PM
It will be interesting to see who is picked up for upaid tickets
or some-such unrelated misnomener and yanked into jail so they can be kept an eye on. 
02-09-2011, 08:54 PM
(02-09-2011, 08:49 PM)fabulous Wrote:(02-09-2011, 07:21 PM)Methusala Wrote: LadyCop, "Our sheriff is a crook" if this is a fact please substansiate your claim
02-09-2011, 08:58 PM
pics in Johnny's mother's page.
 i tried to find photos of Lisa's family and funeral, but couldn't. her funeral was very low-key and private. i have a feeling Johnny's will be different.
02-09-2011, 08:58 PM
I can't for the life of me figure out how to look up arrest records in Lucas County. I found the dockets online but it seems to be more court related stuff, where is everyone getting the arrest record screen shots that are posted?
02-09-2011, 09:00 PM
(02-09-2011, 08:48 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i've never locked a thread, but i am going to if the personal attack bullshit continues. Yes, Ma'am. Sorry, I started that. There is a lovely thread about Toledo in case anyone would like to discuss a grievance in the correct forum. This thread IS about the case. I'm a little disgusted by the mother milking the situation for unending sympathy. I'm also stymied about people who raise kids that get into tons of trouble and who are oblivious to the danger inherent in that kind of lifestyle. Why don't they step in BEFORE it is too late? Somebody dropped the ball. 
02-09-2011, 09:03 PM
(02-08-2011, 11:10 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote:(02-08-2011, 10:36 PM)notsure Wrote: where does it say the fb message was sent at 1am. The news video on thread #4 only says yesterday. btw, Ive been reading mock for many days here and have noticed no one has mentioned the fact that it was very cold that sunday night. I can speculate that b/c of the extreme cold no one was hanging outside walking the streets looking for and waiting for a random opportunity to rob someone. I think were all in agreement this was an "inside job" in some form. From my experience with facebook messages, the timestamp on them is off 2-3 hours. I just got a message that says it was time stamped at 10:49 when it was really sent at 7:49.
02-09-2011, 09:05 PM
(02-09-2011, 09:00 PM)Cracker Wrote:Speaking of BALL. Fuck pool. Where's the weed.(02-09-2011, 08:48 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i've never locked a thread, but i am going to if the personal attack bullshit continues.
02-09-2011, 09:06 PM
(02-09-2011, 09:03 PM)seriouslycurious Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:10 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote:(02-08-2011, 10:36 PM)notsure Wrote: where does it say the fb message was sent at 1am. The news video on thread #4 only says yesterday. btw, Ive been reading mock for many days here and have noticed no one has mentioned the fact that it was very cold that sunday night. I can speculate that b/c of the extreme cold no one was hanging outside walking the streets looking for and waiting for a random opportunity to rob someone. I think were all in agreement this was an "inside job" in some form. Timezone, difference maybe? 
02-09-2011, 09:10 PM
Wow great board-checking back in after finding it a few days ago.
My speculations only: I think Miss T is in on it and the best person to pressure and crack the case so far, but she seems pretty rough so good luck! Scenario 1: T and/or her boyfriend brags to others about hanging out at Lisa's recently (possibly could have even taken these friends there to play pool/party/bring drugs to a party so they saw the house/value in person) and someone asks if there is a possible score there:drugs and/or high value items for a quick drug/ robbery score. T brags yes and they talk about an easy score since Lisa's parents are out of town and Johnny is on probation so if he gets robbed of drugs, $, etc., he is NOT going to snitch and call the cops if he gets robbed of drugs and will convinve Lisa not to to protect him-she loves him and won't want him to end up back in prison. That will get him behind bars again-any call to the police will get him into trouble again and probation revoked. Plus, he knows better than be labeled a snitch-I think it was supposed to be an easy drug/home invasion gone wrong and THAT is why LE is calling it a robbery gone wrong. Plan moves ahead and T is brought into it to try to get Johnny and Lisa out of the house to rob it while they leave, unless an alarm code is set/people noticed the home alarm at the pool party/T mentions it and thought it could be set or has no clue if they set it-so T calls Johnny and Lisa with the run to the store excuse to get them to wait so they can ambush Johnny as he leaves and stop the alarm if needed. Another scenario is the killers arrive at the house and see an alarm sign set outside the house/in a window as they sneak up, they call Tiff pissed about this worry and change the scenario on T last min (they were supposed to just break in after Lisa and Johnnny leave until they see the alarm signs) and make Tiffany stall and they can ambush Johnny as he walks out because they are concerned a silent alarm will go off/could have gone off/hidden alarm triggered so they drag him in and make Lisa/Johnny find the alarm documents (possibly dragging her out of the shower without giving her the time to fully dress)to make sure they know the alarm details and a silent alarm has NOT been triggered somewhere-they would not believe Johnny since he did not live there full time and Lisa claiming no alarms were triggered-they need to see the alarm papers for themselves to see what the alarm is set to do-could be why the security documents were out. Could also explain why Lisa was hit in the head-they were trying to force her to admit if she triggered an alarm or knew where trigger buttons were placed in the home if some were there-she lives there full time she would know more than Johnny.Hence, her getting hit and hurt straight out to make sure they got important info from her at the start of the crime.
02-09-2011, 09:12 PM
To fabulous,
For the rcord could you please elaborate on the part of you statement claiming the Lucas county is a crook? Is he defending himself against some acusations or charges? Or can you correct yourself by saying just "Our Sheriff, I don't like him". Is that possibly more accurate?
02-09-2011, 09:22 PM
Re: the cell phone parts across the house: T lied-she knew from the accomplices after the fact that the cell phone was destroyed because Johnny is a big guy and the phone was destroyed in violence as he was attacked-thats why she claims she heard the phone drop (although a Phone "dropping" would not account for the various parts scattered through the house from what others are reporting-in her mind she could think the cell pieces would back up her fake phone story she concocted as an alibi hours later) and then nothing-she KNEW the phone was destroyed in violence from hearing what happened there from others, my opinion-same as why she described a "ransacking".My opinion is that she tried to make this fit into her false story. Lady Cop, is it true that most people try to incorporate some true things in the false stories they tell LE about crimes because it is easier to remember/stick to a story? I thought I read that somewhere...that there is usually a sembelence of truth in a fake story... sorry if I am wrong
02-09-2011, 09:28 PM
(02-09-2011, 09:06 PM)InterestingEnough Wrote:(02-09-2011, 09:03 PM)seriouslycurious Wrote:(02-08-2011, 11:10 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote:(02-08-2011, 10:36 PM)notsure Wrote: where does it say the fb message was sent at 1am. The news video on thread #4 only says yesterday. btw, Ive been reading mock for many days here and have noticed no one has mentioned the fact that it was very cold that sunday night. I can speculate that b/c of the extreme cold no one was hanging outside walking the streets looking for and waiting for a random opportunity to rob someone. I think were all in agreement this was an "inside job" in some form. Timezone could be it, if that's the case, could it really have been sent at 10pm? |
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