Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Freshbait78]

On a related note the Justice for Johnny and Lisa page was pulled from FB. Apparently the person who started it wasn't on the up and up?

Maytee said - "Iam reporting that justice for johnny and lisa page please friends join me how dare this woman think or even imagine wat i feel or can say i want that page gone she just wants a story ;,,,("

what i got from the page (rip johnny and lisa) was that she (person that created it) had lost her child and thought she would create it. where people could pay tribute, but i get the feeling now that she was getting too much angered comment from TIFF's bf AJ and also Maytee was saying some pretty awful comments. I know she lost her son but she was saying some pretty horrible things on that page. It seems like if you dont play by Maytee rules u are cut off. If anyone know how she ( Maytee) must feel is the person who created that page as I thought that person too lost her child to a horrible crime. I mean they all say she (maytee) was nuts even prior to this happening. I guess the person would have had better luck with Maytee if she would have agreed with Maytee facebook comments. Yeah kill them all and their kids and pour acid on them..watch them die...IMO OF COURSE.. RIP Johnny If i could go back in time i would not let you go if i could change the past i would trade places with you if i had to choose between life n death i would die for you oh johnny how i wish it was me and not you ;,,,,,( i would die for you jovanny n jake ;,,,,,( lord why????????

YES! I saw all this 'go down'. I can't believe admin let it go on as long as they did! Maytee got pissed off about something, & then blocked the admin, so she couldn't see her posts!!! Maytee's off her rocker, IMO

Heads Up! It Justice for Johnny and Lisa was back up for a couple hours today. The person said she was eeing what would happen. But it is down again tonight. Who was it who took photos of pages and could post them? If the page comes up again I would contact him and have him capture

The RIP Johnny page is encouraging people to research and then send info privately by email

The last post by admin last night is that she will be hiding the page at night from now on because of the inappropriate comments they have been getting. She said she will unhide it in the morning when she wakes up & is able to check the page frequently.

[EastCoastKat]

Good morning everyone nice to be back

For anyone who want to see LE's record of arrests for Maytee and JC's in a much easier to read format, and it has all the evidence that was collected.

http://www.thewaronwomen.org/crime/59426...-who-knew/

[Freshbait78]

On a related note the Justice for Johnny and Lisa page was pulled from FB. Apparently the person who started it wasn't on the up and up?

what i got from the page (rip johnny and lisa) was that she (person that created it) had lost her child and thought she would create it. where people could pay tribute, but i get the feeling now that she was getting too much angered comment from TIFF's bf AJ and also Maytee was saying some pretty awful comments. I know she lost her son but she was saying some pretty horrible things on that page. It seems like if you dont play by Maytee rules u are cut off. If anyone know how she ( Maytee) must feel is the person who created that page as I thought that person too lost her child to a horrible crime. I mean they all say she (maytee) was nuts even prior to this happening. I guess the person would have had better luck with Maytee if she would have agreed with Maytee facebook comments. Yeah kill them all and their kids and pour acid on them..watch them die...IMO OF COURSE.. RIP Johnny If i could go back in time i would not let you go if i could change the past i would trade places with you if i had to choose between life n death i would die for you oh johnny how i wish it was me and not you ;,,,,,( i would die for you jovanny n jake ;,,,,,( lord why????????

YES! I saw all this 'go down'. I can't believe admin let it go on as long as they did! Maytee got pissed off about something, & then blocked the admin, so she couldn't see her posts!!! Maytee's off her rocker, IMO

Heads Up! It Justice for Johnny and Lisa was back up for a couple hours today. The person said she was eeing what would happen. But it is down again tonight. Who was it who took photos of pages and could post them? If the page comes up again I would contact him and have him capture

The RIP Johnny page is encouraging people to research and then send info privately by email

confused ... what I saw was the "Justice for JC & LS" FB page, doing that... wanting people to research a particular page .. the research takes you to Maytee's rap sheet.

I clicked on the link, it didn't take me to Maytee rap sheet, it took me to the home page of the website. I don't think I'm the only one this happened to either. Someone commented on that post something along the lines of: Is there anyone in particular we should be looking for?

[Red_velvet71]

Sorry if this has been posted, didn't see it any where.

TW's rap sheet.

Case NumberDefendantDate of BirthCharge
CRA-07-13713-0103WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986TRAFFICKING IN DRUGS SELL OR OFFER TO SELL
CRA-07-13713-0203WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986POSSESSION OF DRUGS OBTAIN POSSESS OR USE A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
CRA-07-13713-0303WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986PERMITTING DRUG ABUSE amended from POSSESSION OF DRUGS OBTAIN POSSESS OR USE A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
CRB-08-16956-0102WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from ENDANGER CHILDREN;CREATE SUBSTANTIAL RISK TO HEALTH OR SAFTETY
CRB-08-16956-0202WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986DISORDERLY CONDUCT amended from OBSTRUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS
CRB-09-09136-0101WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986PETTY THEFT WITH PURPOSE TO DEPRIVE KNOWINGLY OBTAIN OR EXERT CONTROL WITHOUT CONSENT OF OWNER
CRB-09-09470-0101WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986UNAUTHORIZED USE OF PROPERTY;KNOWINGLY USE OR OPERATE WITHOUT CONSENT OF OWNER OR AUTHORIZED PERSON amended from THEFT WITH PURPOSE TO DEPRIVE KNOWINGLY OBTAIN OR EXERT CONTROL WITHOUT CONSENT OF OWNER
CRB-10-16129-0101WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986FALSE INFORMATION TO A POLICE OFFICER
TRD-04-03596-0101WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/17/1985ABILITY TO STOP IN ASSURED CLEAR DISTANCE
TRD-06-00693-0101WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/17/1985MAXIMUM SPEEDS: EXCEED 60 MPH ON INTERSTATE SYSTEM
TRD-09-11377-0103WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986FAILURE TO STOP AFTER ACCIDENT ON STREET
TRD-09-11377-0203WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986LICENSE REQUIRED;DRIVING WITHOUT LICENSE
TRD-09-11377-0303WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986^STARTING AND BACKING VEHICLES
TRD-10-10829-0101WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986DISPLAY OF LICENSE PLATE;WHEN EXPIRED
TRD-10-20840-0103WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986DISPLAY OF LICENSE;FAILURE TO DISPLAY LICENSE WHEN DEMAND IS PROPERLY MADE
TRD-10-20840-0203WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986TWO HEADLIGHTS REQUIRED ON VEHICLE OTHER THAN MOTORCYCLE
TRD-10-20840-0303WILLIAMS, TIFFANY09/16/1986BROKEN, CRACKED, NONTRANSPARENT GLASS

http://www.tmc-clerk.com/criminaltraffic/Default.aspx

[doing40thisyear]

Good morning everyone nice to be back

For anyone who want to see LE's record of arrests for Maytee and JC's in a much easier to read format, and it has all the evidence that was collected.

http://www.thewaronwomen.org/crime/59426...-who-knew/

wow....who the mother could have told??????????????????????? that speaks volumes to me. IMO i still believe that this woman knew her son was dealing drugs that night.

[Lady Cop]

even if jackets (records) on named principals are posted more than once, it helps people who may not have seen them, it's too much to search this thread! so thanks~~

btw
the email address i provided earlier to contact me is no longer valid since host change. i don't have a new one yet, but PMs will work.

[EastCoastKat]

LOL, I went to the Justice page on FB and saw my niece's picture talking about chocolate and tequila and thought what the hell is going on, what the hell is my niece doing on this page talking like this??

Duh, the page was down so it took me to my own page, where my niece had posted!!

[EastCoastKat]

Good morning everyone nice to be back

For anyone who want to see LE's record of arrests for Maytee and JC's in a much easier to read format, and it has all the evidence that was collected.

http://www.thewaronwomen.org/crime/59426...-who-knew/

wow....who the mother could have told??????????????????????? that speaks volumes to me. IMO i still believe that this woman knew her son was dealing drugs that night.

Yeah, that JVM's War On Women page.

[EastCoastKat]

JVM tried to mention JC's rap sheet and Maytee wouldn't talk about it, which is understandable, but I think her motives weren't as pure as they should have been, I too like others, think that she didn't want her own dirty laundry aired. Unfortunately, with her rap sheet and all the drugs one has to wonder if she may have mentioned to someone that these kids were alone there, someone that may have known that JC was (allegedly) dealing?? Did she? Who knows but she was awful fast at trying to put the blame at LS's feet, which I thought was just plain disgusting.

[doing40thisyear]

LOL, I went to the Justice page on FB and saw my niece's picture talking about chocolate and tequila and thought what the hell is going on, what the hell is my niece doing on this page talking like this??

Duh, the page was down so it took me to my own page, where my niece had posted!!

LOL well thanks I needed that laugh...this case is driving me nuts. I want some arrests. I want it solved. 2 youngs lifes are now lost. ...and to tell you the truth I think they both would have been productive people unlike TW...her future holds alot more kids and ex cons.

[Duchess]

she was awful fast at trying to put the blame at LS's feet, which I thought was just plain disgusting.

It IS disgusting and speaks volumes as to her character which is irrelevant given we all know she is a piece of work. I'm sorry her son was murdered & no doubt these past days have been a true horror for her but this woman SUCKS as a role model for her kids.

[EastCoastKat]

LOL, I went to the Justice page on FB and saw my niece's picture talking about chocolate and tequila and thought what the hell is going on, what the hell is my niece doing on this page talking like this??

Duh, the page was down so it took me to my own page, where my niece had posted!!

LOL well thanks I needed that laugh...this case is driving me nuts. I want some arrests. I want it solved. 2 youngs lifes are now lost. ...and to tell you the truth I think they both would have been productive people unlike TW...her future holds alot more kids and ex cons.

I have to agree with you here. Last night I even had dreams about these kids, especially after seeing that picture of LS on the War on Women site. You could just see LS as a freckled face little girl. All I keep thinking is what a horrible, horrible way to go. I have asthma and have had really severe attacks in my life, loosing your breath is just the most horrid feeling, imagine somebody standing over these kids or holding them down while they were fighting for their last breath, that's the earmark of a true sociopath and sadist, and imagine there was more than one of them!! I'm sure LE doesn't want to show any of their cards, but I just wish they would say something to make the preps sweat!!

[doing40thisyear]

JVM tried to mention JC's rap sheet and Maytee wouldn't talk about it, which is understandable, but I think her motives weren't as pure as they should have been, I too like others, think that she didn't want her own dirty laundry aired. Unfortunately, with her rap sheet and all the drugs one has to wonder if she may have mentioned to someone that these kids were alone there, someone that may have known that JC was (allegedly) dealing?? Did she? Who knows but she was awful fast at trying to put the blame at LS's feet, which I thought was just plain disgusting.

Mind you I have not viewed her on NG or JVM shows with her talking but when I first listen to the 911 calls on my computer I immediately thought this lady is a druggy IMO. Then I seen her on a local new channel just day after; wasnt too happen with her wearing sunglasses. I have never seen a victem's mother speak about the horrid experience while wearing sunglasses. when i heard she blamed LS....thought she was NUTS and continued to think this lady is just as HIGH as TW on the 911 call. LOL..IMO of course. all i know is NG will drill her as well as JVM. They just couldnt get so graphic now because I mean she just did bury her son or was about to, but they will drill her u wait and see. Lord knows if they invite her back she'll go cause she likes this drama..she likes the attention...but u cant fool Nancy and Jane.. Must respect for the LS Family who has handled this with alot of dignity. What a classy family. IMO

[EastCoastKat]

she was awful fast at trying to put the blame at LS's feet, which I thought was just plain disgusting.

It IS disgusting and speaks volumes as to her character which is irrelevant given we all know she is a piece of work. I'm sorry her son was murdered & no doubt these past days have been a true horror for her but this woman SUCKS as a role model for her kids.

I agree, and her main arrests were when JC was about 10yrs old, so he was old enough to understand exactly what was going on with Mom. I do have compassion for her and I don't believe she had anything to do with it besides being a horrible role model, as a bad temper and drugs is a bad mix. TW is the one to grill here. Who knows though maybe Maytee was trying to change her ways too?? And I'm sure this will haunt her the rest of her life.

[EastCoastKat]

JVM tried to mention JC's rap sheet and Maytee wouldn't talk about it, which is understandable, but I think her motives weren't as pure as they should have been, I too like others, think that she didn't want her own dirty laundry aired. Unfortunately, with her rap sheet and all the drugs one has to wonder if she may have mentioned to someone that these kids were alone there, someone that may have known that JC was (allegedly) dealing?? Did she? Who knows but she was awful fast at trying to put the blame at LS's feet, which I thought was just plain disgusting.

Mind you I have not viewed her on NG or JVM shows with her talking but when I first listen to the 911 calls on my computer I immediately thought this lady is a druggy IMO. Then I seen her on a local new channel just day after; wasnt too happen with her wearing sunglasses. I have never seen a victem's mother speak about the horrid experience while wearing sunglasses. when i heard she blamed LS....thought she was NUTS and continued to think this lady is just as HIGH as TW on the 911 call. LOL..IMO of course. all i know is NG will drill her as well as JVM. They just couldnt get so graphic now because I mean she just did bury her son or was about to, but they will drill her u wait and see. Lord knows if they invite her back she'll go cause she likes this drama..she likes the attention...but u cant fool Nancy and Jane.. Must respect for the LS Family who has handled this with alot of dignity. What a classy family. IMO

On JVM she wouldn't look in the camera, JVM had to tell her to please look in the camera, it was kinda weird.

[Duchess]

I have asthma and have had really severe attacks in my life, loosing your breath is just the most horrid feeling, imagine somebody standing over these kids or holding them down while they were fighting for their last breath

I have an allergy to bee stings & went into anaphylactic shock once, not being able to breathe is the scariest shit ever, I'd rather face someone holding a gun.

[EastCoastKat]

I have asthma and have had really severe attacks in my life, loosing your breath is just the most horrid feeling, imagine somebody standing over these kids or holding them down while they were fighting for their last breath

I have an allergy to bee stings & went into anaphylactic shock once, not being able to breathe is the scariest shit ever, I'd rather face someone holding a gun.

I agree 100%, that's why when people say Oh, everyone is only interested in this case because of JC & LS being white and it happened in suburbia. NO, not for everyone, for me it was the manner of death and how, how someone could have murdered two people that way!! I would take a shot to the head any day of the week, not that I want one, but that is even more merciful!!

[doing40thisyear]

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On JVM she wouldn't look in the camera, JVM had to tell her to please look in the camera, it was kinda weird.
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yeah see I think that speaks volumes...I mean I know her son was murdered and no person should have to go through that, but I still think her not speaking about his arrests and blaming LS 's ex, and her not looking into the camera. A family in their right mind....would have had a spokesperson for the family at least in the 1^st week. (like the Straub family). She was on TV way too soon and her ranting on facebook has proved to me IMO that this person has a problem with prescription drugs. IMO. I dont think she is directly involved she indirectly involved..meaning she knew her son was making a deal that night....OH you dont want me to speak about TW....she is very involved with this IMO...WHITE TRASH......and also has a problem with drugs, IMO

[doing40thisyear]

I have asthma and have had really severe attacks in my life, loosing your breath is just the most horrid feeling, imagine somebody standing over these kids or holding them down while they were fighting for their last breath

I have an allergy to bee stings & went into anaphylactic shock once, not being able to breathe is the scariest shit ever, I'd rather face someone holding a gun.

I agree 100%, that's why when people say Oh, everyone is only interested in this case because of JC & LS being white and it happened in suburbia. NO, not for everyone, for me it was the manner of death and how, how someone could have murdered two people that way!! I would take a shot to the head any day of the week, not that I want one, but that is even more merciful!!

i agree....it was how it happened (Manner of Death)...the youth of the LS AND JC, their beauty as a couple...attractive both of them....the parents being away....the drugs ...the 911 calls...I live in OHIO..so the location...the players coming into to play..TW and asso...Also the person at the beginning who was commenting on threads and basically saying hey JC was involved in drugs ( a drug dealer) the explanation of who TW was and her ex con man that died. AND HER BEING A DRUG DEALER HERSELF..they say crimes like this involving young kids tend to be solved..you know why...cause the YOUNG talk. I tell you this is going to be a LIFETIME MOVIE.

[curious]

Just curious, does anyone have an insight as to what the DVD that was seized as evidence might pertain to?