Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[JsMom]

It's been awhile since I listened to the 911 calls. Can anyone who listened recently to the one with Tiffany confirm if she made the following statement, which I found at another forum and assume is quoted from that conversation.

"My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to pick me up, me and my friend. This was at around 11 o'clock. I was on the phone with his gf Ls and we hung up, we all hung up. Then he, I called jc right back, I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like, 'I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.' I called him right back and he didn't answer."

Didn't Tiffany just tell us she was talking to JC, not LS...that she called him back to tell him she was running to the store, and he told her he'd call her back...that she didn't hear anyone yelling....that she didn't contact 911 immediately because she was waiting for him to call...that when he didn't call after an hour or so, she tried unsuccessfully to reach him?

eta: I hope when if/when she returns she can help put the confusion to rest.

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

Same here. "I'm on (the phone with 911)", spoken to someone at the scene.

Yah I think this is true as well!!!

[Winter]

[quote='Love Hippos' pid='128942' dateline='1297909718']

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

In my humble opinion Tiffany did answer the question. By her not answering told me that they were.

& I agree with your opinion, but the fact that Tiffany declined to answer, made perfect sense to me. The fact she wouldn't come out & answer makes me believe they really were her friends.


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Jane I really hope she is.

[doing40thisyear]

[quote='Jane' pid='128912' dateline='1297908045']

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

Same here. "I'm on (the phone with 911)", spoken to someone at the scene.

Yah I think this is true as well!!!


I dont think she was talking to someone sorry

[JsMom]

[quote='Jane' pid='128912' dateline='1297908045']

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

Same here. "I'm on (the phone with 911)", spoken to someone at the scene.

Yah I think this is true as well!!!


I dont think she was talking to someone sorry

Would like to know what u think 40??

[doing40thisyear]

[quote='Love Hippos' pid='128942' dateline='1297909718']

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

In my humble opinion Tiffany did answer the question. By her not answering told me that they were.

& I agree with your opinion, but the fact that Tiffany declined to answer, made perfect sense to me. The fact she wouldn't come out & answer makes me believe they really were her friends.


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Jane I really hope she is.

I really hope too but something make me think she wasnt..Im sorry. I know we had encouraged her to come here but if I was in her situation and being talked about on every forum about this case. I would keep my mouth shut, deactivate facebook and only speak to my closet friends about this case. I also didnt like her slamming Maytee...(WE ALL KNOW SHE IS NUT)///BUT I think she answered a queston that JC told her never to talk to his family..why even post that.

[tiffwill123]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

im sorry if thats how any of you feel but i just dont feel right putting their buisness out if they were involved or not.i mean honestly i dont got to answer any of these questions but i have and if theres a question on here about themi dont want to answer im not going to.sorry.im not saying that to disrespect anyone but thats how i feel.and i know for a fact im innocent.and thats why i got on here so everyone else knew the questions they beeen wondering about me that night.you dont got to believe me.and i will leave your site if other.im not on here to argue with anyone i just thought id answer the questions every1 has been wondering about me,thank you everyone and have a blessed day.!

[PURPLECATS]

Lady Cop Thank You

any news on johnny's cell anyone calling him who he called
that should tell a story
i feel sorry for these familys

[JsMom]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

im sorry if thats how any of you feel but i just dont feel right putting their buisness out if they were involved or not.i mean honestly i dont got to answer any of these questions but i have and if theres a question on here about themi dont want to answer im not going to.sorry.im not saying that to disrespect anyone but thats how i feel.and i know for a fact im innocent.and thats why i got on here so everyone else knew the questions they beeen wondering about me that night.you dont got to believe me.and i will leave your site if other.im not on here to argue with anyone i just thought id answer the questions every1 has been wondering about me,thank you everyone and have a blessed day.!

STAND UR GROUND~DONT LET ANYONE RUN U OFF! IF U KNOW WHAT UR SAYIN IS TRUE SO BE IT!

[jash]

Ok..I have taken all of TIFF answers and put them in chronological order. Some, I have not prefaced with the questions because I think we're all smart enough to deduce the question from her answer. I have also included the convo between tiff and miranda with Miranda posting tiff's answers before she officially joined.

If you read what I highlighted in red....the story is the same, it is just told in such a way, that it is confusing...particularly if you are also assuming what Maytee has put out there "THat johnny dropped the phone" Tiff says that is a lie, and if it is true...her story makes sense now. It's just the way it was being told. I even had to edit this post because I thought her story had changed, but it did not...does everyone see what I see now?


Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:21pm Report
okay well i just figored out how 2 be able to post on the site last night,ive been trying to get on there i thought i was blocked.but as you ask.i'll answer any questions you and anyone else has to ask.okkay never did i say the house was ransacked.thst never came out of my mouth.that came from maytee(johnny's mother).she is the one who said i said that.just as she said i said i heard johnny drop the phone that was a lie.johnny told me he would call me back.thats why i didnt call anyone.then when a hour went by and he didnt answer him or lisa thats when i drove out there.and there was no answer.so see if everyone knew the whole story then they could judge.but maytee is making me look bad because she aint telling the truth.
Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:50pm Report
i guess johnnys ma said she wanted the site took down because she got banned from it because she was talkin about choppin bodys up n pouring acid on them..

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:58pm Report
i kno and ive did as much as i could 2 do 2 help..i want the same as others ..and u kno yea those are my friends but how would u feel if u were getting the blame for ur friends death if all u were doin was tryn to help.thats all i did n now the blame is on me by every1.maytee should of told the truth about the story that was told not a lie ..but u kno wut i feel they will find out who did it and who ever blamed me can kiss my ass.i could nt even attend benefits or funerals because of this bullshit thats fuked up that shyt hurts.but theres nothing i can do.i guess jus sit back n let the cops do there job and get justice for this

O ok so u knew johnny first/longer?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:14pm Report
yup

had u ever meet Johnnys mother before all this
How well did u know Johnny? How well did u know Lisa?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:09pm Report
good enough...well i met lisa thru johnny..


i did not tell any 1 i was goin to lisa house.it was not a party.as i was speaking with lisa her an johnny asked did i want to come over and i said yes.we hung up and i called johnny rite back to tell him i was goin to the stor e when he got to my house jus walk in.and thats when i heard him talking to that man.

Did you conspire to rob the Straubs and have Johnny and Lisa killed for drugs

no i did not.
Hi Tiffany - a question. When you got the house, that night, did you just knock on the door, or did you try to look in the wondows? Also, if you had other transportation that night, why did you need a ride from Johnny & Lisa?

yes i did knock and also i rang the door bell for about 5 minutes.and on lisas fron door there are 2 big windows on the side of them yes i did look in i did not see them.and i did not have transportation that night.when they did not answer after a hour i woke up my friends ma n asked to use her car.

& what exactly did you hear Johnny & the man say ?

johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there.

so what about all the lights being on and the cabinets opened?

the lights were on and at the top of the stairs which the stairs are right at the front door there was a closet opened.but never did i say the house was ransacked.johnnys mother said i said that.that was a lie

When you heard the guy talking to Johnny was it in a loud threatning voice? Do you recognize his voice, or have any idea who the killers are? Also will you cell phone records verify you were where you say you were during these phone calls?

i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify.

Just listened to you on the 911 call and I'm curious about something.


i also told the police the exact story.he did say he would call me back.and after i left the first time i drove back and then called a friend whos boyfriend is johnnys best friend .i asked for the number she would not give it to me.she told me stay by my phone shed call me back an 20 minutes later johnnys dad called i told him what happened and told him i was driving back there did he want a ride he said yes so i turned around and picked him up thats why all the time went by.


the only people they said(the police) not to talk to is johnnys family.and thats because of the threats.no they did not tell me i could nt leave town.
no i did not hear lisa.(on the phone)
johnny said bro wut r u doing. and i could not hear what the man said.
my boyfriend was at home doing a paper for school.
no i was not going alone another one of are friends was going also.



i have no idea who murdered them.i really dont feel comfortable answering questions about them doing or being involved with drugs....thats to much info on them that i dont want to post.sorry.!
no my boyfriend does not live alone and he is also clear he took a polygraph for them and passed. i really dont know why this happened.im just as lost as the others when it comes to who did this and why.
personaly i think the lady(Maytee) is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others
i left while the police were ther this was the first time his dad was there.the police said to go they didnt see nothing wrong.i guess johnnys dad went back and kicked the door in.i was not there



we were just going to shoot some pool for a lil bit.no 1 knew we were going to be there and no1 else was coming over
the reason they kept my boyfriend is because he had a warrant for fta..failure to appear for traffic tickets.

i dont htink it was a robbery i thnk it was more personal than what we all know.and ive heard alot of rumors...come on its all rumors what they saying about me .so that should tell you something
me another friend johnny and lisa yes it is the minor.and just so everyone knows he was just a friend ... he has been questioned also

it is true they used the garage door to get in the house.the garage door was closed when i got there.and when the police got there the lights were still on.and i have no idea what the intraband pants are either.
did not go to the back og the house and thats were they siad they looked in.so im not sure.and i really cant say about the mother .im confused to all this to.

yes i was there 1 other time.(Straub home)
Had he (Johnny) ever commented to you about anyone being angry at him for any reason?

yes the guy he told on that was involved with his robbery.
thank you and god bless but no johnnys family wasnt thankful they blamed me.and youre also welcome for coming and answering your questions.also.i got to go for a moment but i will return to answer some more for all of you.god bless you all

[tiffwill123]

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

In my humble opinion Tiffany did answer the question. By her not answering told me that they were.

& I agree with your opinion, but the fact that Tiffany declined to answer, made perfect sense to me. The fact she wouldn't come out & answer makes me believe they really were her friends.


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Jane I really hope she is.

I really hope too but something make me think she wasnt..Im sorry. I know we had encouraged her to come here but if I was in her situation and being talked about on every forum about this case. I would keep my mouth shut, deactivate facebook and only speak to my closet friends about this case. I also didnt like her slamming Maytee...(WE ALL KNOW SHE IS NUT)///BUT I think she answered a queston that JC told her never to talk to his family..why even post that.

i never said jc said not to talk to his family.someone asked a question and stated did le tell you not to speak to anyone.i answered yes jcs family because of the threats.and i dont talk about anyone on here sorry.i did not slam maytee at all.

[doing40thisyear]

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

Same here. "I'm on (the phone with 911)", spoken to someone at the scene.

Yah I think this is true as well!!!


I dont think she was talking to someone sorry

Would like to know what u think 40??

I took it as....TW says Johnny said IM ON TH.....like he was basically saying Im on the phone with TIFF...Also...she has given different versions....listen to 911 and then read back her comments on what happened...as far as her being scared about talking to dispatcher why....why....if she wasnt guily ..in my opinion...IF THIS HAPPENED TO ONE OF MY FRIENDs you better believe I would have had to the point what was said not between UMMMMMM...I could be wrong but however taken her rap sheet and over all character on facebook....I dont believe her sorry ...sorry I dont.

[kfran]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

As far as I'm concerned, Tiff not answering the questions about the drugs actually did answer the question. Don't ya think?

[Methusala]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

im sorry if thats how any of you feel but i just dont feel right putting their buisness out if they were involved or not.i mean honestly i dont got to answer any of these questions but i have and if theres a question on here about themi dont want to answer im not going to.sorry.im not saying that to disrespect anyone but thats how i feel.and i know for a fact im innocent.and thats why i got on here so everyone else knew the questions they beeen wondering about me that night.you dont got to believe me.and i will leave your site if other.im not on here to argue with anyone i just thought id answer the questions every1 has been wondering about me,thank you everyone and have a blessed day.!

Tiffany, I don't blame you for not answering the questions about whether JC and LS were into drugs, but there were other additional questions posted for you since you took a break. Have you seen those?

[Lady Cop]

TiffW we appreciate you being here. and as i said, you are not required to answer anything put to you. nor do you have to explain. you have every right not to incriminate anyone including yourself, and to ignore uncomfortable questions. i am carefully monitoring what is said to you here. (although i sleep sometimes and have to go out sometimes.)

in the frenzy of questions you may have missed...i asked how you were holding up being pregnant with all this stress. and when are you due?

[Freshbait78]

Have to say I'm not sold. Sorry! I kept my mouth shut so that Tiffany would continue to talk because she seemed to get offended by me saying that I thought she could handle the questions & her reply that she was not here (@ Mock) to argue & I didn't want to run her off before everyone got a chance to ask their questions. Again, I'm not sold. I grew up & lived in the area that Tiffany lives (south side of Toledo) until I was 24. I'm very accustomed to dealing & running into chicks like Tiffany. I know all about the "hood" & the "gangstas" though I don't like to be affilated with that part of my life. I know too much about how the " down ass bytches" operate. I will whole heartedly apologize if I'm wrong but I take everything she has said with a grain of salt. I have even addmitted that she, in the 911 tapes, said nothing about seeing lights on or off or the house ransacked, because I'm trying to be fair to both sides. BUT I think it's foolish to take everything Tiffany says as the gospel truth.

[JsMom]

I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

Same here. "I'm on (the phone with 911)", spoken to someone at the scene.

Yah I think this is true as well!!!


I dont think she was talking to someone sorry

Would like to know what u think 40??

I took it as....TW says Johnny said IM ON TH.....like he was basically saying Im on the phone with TIFF...Also...she has given different versions....listen to 911 and then read back her comments on what happened...as far as her being scared about talking to dispatcher why....why....if she wasnt guily ..in my opinion...IF THIS HAPPENED TO ONE OF MY FRIENDs you better believe I would have had to the point what was said not between UMMMMMM...I could be wrong but however taken her rap sheet and over all character on facebook....I dont believe her sorry ...sorry I dont.

Thats ur opinion and thats fine! =)

[kfran]

Tiffany- thank you for being brave & coming to Mock. You didn't have to put yourself out there & you did. So I say kudos to you. I hope you & your unborn child will have peace in your future. God bless!

[Jane]

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

In my humble opinion Tiffany did answer the question. By her not answering told me that they were.

& I agree with your opinion, but the fact that Tiffany declined to answer, made perfect sense to me. The fact she wouldn't come out & answer makes me believe they really were her friends.


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Jane I really hope she is.

I really hope too but something make me think she wasnt..Im sorry. I know we had encouraged her to come here but if I was in her situation and being talked about on every forum about this case. I would keep my mouth shut, deactivate facebook and only speak to my closet friends about this case. I also didnt like her slamming Maytee...(WE ALL KNOW SHE IS NUT)///BUT I think she answered a queston that JC told her never to talk to his family..why even post that.

I never saw her post that !!?? She posted LE told her not to talk to JC's family, due to threats she was getting from Maytee & all. If she truly has nothing to hide, I can see her wanting to tell her side of things; to answer questions, since Maytee has put words into her mouth, from the very beginning, for all the country to hear, via 911 calls.

[tiffwill123]

Ok..I have taken all of TIFF answers and put them in chronological order. Some, I have not prefaced with the questions because I think we're all smart enough to deduce the question from her answer. I have also included the convo between tiff and miranda with Miranda posting tiff's answers before she officially joined.

If you read what I highlighted in red....the story is the same, it is just told in such a way, that it is confusing...particularly if you are also assuming what Maytee has put out there "THat johnny dropped the phone" Tiff says that is a lie, and if it is true...her story makes sense now. It's just the way it was being told. I even had to edit this post because I thought her story had changed, but it did not...does everyone see what I see now?


Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:21pm Report
okay well i just figored out how 2 be able to post on the site last night,ive been trying to get on there i thought i was blocked.but as you ask.i'll answer any questions you and anyone else has to ask.okkay never did i say the house was ransacked.thst never came out of my mouth.that came from maytee(johnny's mother).she is the one who said i said that.just as she said i said i heard johnny drop the phone that was a lie.johnny told me he would call me back.thats why i didnt call anyone.then when a hour went by and he didnt answer him or lisa thats when i drove out there.and there was no answer.so see if everyone knew the whole story then they could judge.but maytee is making me look bad because she aint telling the truth.
Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:50pm Report
i guess johnnys ma said she wanted the site took down because she got banned from it because she was talkin about choppin bodys up n pouring acid on them..

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:58pm Report
i kno and ive did as much as i could 2 do 2 help..i want the same as others ..and u kno yea those are my friends but how would u feel if u were getting the blame for ur friends death if all u were doin was tryn to help.thats all i did n now the blame is on me by every1.maytee should of told the truth about the story that was told not a lie ..but u kno wut i feel they will find out who did it and who ever blamed me can kiss my ass.i could nt even attend benefits or funerals because of this bullshit thats fuked up that shyt hurts.but theres nothing i can do.i guess jus sit back n let the cops do there job and get justice for this

O ok so u knew johnny first/longer?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:14pm Report
yup

had u ever meet Johnnys mother before all this
How well did u know Johnny? How well did u know Lisa?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:09pm Report
good enough...well i met lisa thru johnny..


i did not tell any 1 i was goin to lisa house.it was not a party.as i was speaking with lisa her an johnny asked did i want to come over and i said yes.we hung up and i called johnny rite back to tell him i was goin to the stor e when he got to my house jus walk in.and thats when i heard him talking to that man.

Did you conspire to rob the Straubs and have Johnny and Lisa killed for drugs

no i did not.
Hi Tiffany - a question. When you got the house, that night, did you just knock on the door, or did you try to look in the wondows? Also, if you had other transportation that night, why did you need a ride from Johnny & Lisa?

yes i did knock and also i rang the door bell for about 5 minutes.and on lisas fron door there are 2 big windows on the side of them yes i did look in i did not see them.and i did not have transportation that night.when they did not answer after a hour i woke up my friends ma n asked to use her car.

& what exactly did you hear Johnny & the man say ?

johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there.

so what about all the lights being on and the cabinets opened?

the lights were on and at the top of the stairs which the stairs are right at the front door there was a closet opened.but never did i say the house was ransacked.johnnys mother said i said that.that was a lie

When you heard the guy talking to Johnny was it in a loud threatning voice? Do you recognize his voice, or have any idea who the killers are? Also will you cell phone records verify you were where you say you were during these phone calls?

i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify.

Just listened to you on the 911 call and I'm curious about something.


i also told the police the exact story.he did say he would call me back.and after i left the first time i drove back and then called a friend whos boyfriend is johnnys best friend .i asked for the number she would not give it to me.she told me stay by my phone shed call me back an 20 minutes later johnnys dad called i told him what happened and told him i was driving back there did he want a ride he said yes so i turned around and picked him up thats why all the time went by.


the only people they said(the police) not to talk to is johnnys family.and thats because of the threats.no they did not tell me i could nt leave town.
no i did not hear lisa.(on the phone)
johnny said bro wut r u doing. and i could not hear what the man said.
my boyfriend was at home doing a paper for school.
no i was not going alone another one of are friends was going also.



i have no idea who murdered them.i really dont feel comfortable answering questions about them doing or being involved with drugs....thats to much info on them that i dont want to post.sorry.!
no my boyfriend does not live alone and he is also clear he took a polygraph for them and passed. i really dont know why this happened.im just as lost as the others when it comes to who did this and why.
personaly i think the lady(Maytee) is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others
i left while the police were ther this was the first time his dad was there.the police said to go they didnt see nothing wrong.i guess johnnys dad went back and kicked the door in.i was not there



we were just going to shoot some pool for a lil bit.no 1 knew we were going to be there and no1 else was coming over
the reason they kept my boyfriend is because he had a warrant for fta..failure to appear for traffic tickets.

i dont htink it was a robbery i thnk it was more personal than what we all know.and ive heard alot of rumors...come on its all rumors what they saying about me .so that should tell you something
me another friend johnny and lisa yes it is the minor.and just so everyone knows he was just a friend ... he has been questioned also

it is true they used the garage door to get in the house.the garage door was closed when i got there.and when the police got there the lights were still on.and i have no idea what the intraband pants are either.
did not go to the back og the house and thats were they siad they looked in.so im not sure.and i really cant say about the mother .im confused to all this to.

yes i was there 1 other time.(Straub home)
Had he (Johnny) ever commented to you about anyone being angry at him for any reason?

yes the guy he told on that was involved with his robbery.
thank you and god bless but no johnnys family wasnt thankful they blamed me.and youre also welcome for coming and answering your questions.also.i got to go for a moment but i will return to answer some more for all of you.god bless you all

im sorry but youre reading it the wrong way i just made it shorter to her and said the exact on mock.sorry if you read it wrong.

[Love Hippos]

Ok..I have taken all of TIFF answers and put them in chronological order. Some, I have not prefaced with the questions because I think we're all smart enough to deduce the question from her answer. I have also included the convo between tiff and miranda with Miranda posting tiff's answers before she officially joined. There IS a GLARING CHANGE OF THE STORY, which is what is confusing and concerning people. I have highlighted the statements that are completely different answers, At least, that is how I am reading them...that there are 2 distinct different stories...am I correct or not?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:21pm Report
okay well i just figored out how 2 be able to post on the site last night,ive been trying to get on there i thought i was blocked.but as you ask.i'll answer any questions you and anyone else has to ask.okkay never did i say the house was ransacked.thst never came out of my mouth.that came from maytee(johnny's mother).she is the one who said i said that.just as she said i said i heard johnny drop the phone that was a lie.johnny told me he would call me back.thats why i didnt call anyone.then when a hour went by and he didnt answer him or lisa thats when i drove out there.and there was no answer.so see if everyone knew the whole story then they could judge.but maytee is making me look bad because she aint telling the truth.
Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:50pm Report
i guess johnnys ma said she wanted the site took down because she got banned from it because she was talkin about choppin bodys up n pouring acid on them..

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 4:58pm Report
i kno and ive did as much as i could 2 do 2 help..i want the same as others ..and u kno yea those are my friends but how would u feel if u were getting the blame for ur friends death if all u were doin was tryn to help.thats all i did n now the blame is on me by every1.maytee should of told the truth about the story that was told not a lie ..but u kno wut i feel they will find out who did it and who ever blamed me can kiss my ass.i could nt even attend benefits or funerals because of this bullshit thats fuked up that shyt hurts.but theres nothing i can do.i guess jus sit back n let the cops do there job and get justice for this

O ok so u knew johnny first/longer?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:14pm Report
yup

had u ever meet Johnnys mother before all this
How well did u know Johnny? How well did u know Lisa?

Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:09pm Report
good enough...well i met lisa thru johnny..


i did not tell any 1 i was goin to lisa house.it was not a party.as i was speaking with lisa her an johnny asked did i want to come over and i said yes.we hung up and i called johnny rite back to tell him i was goin to the stor e when he got to my house jus walk in.and thats when i heard him talking to that man.

Did you conspire to rob the Straubs and have Johnny and Lisa killed for drugs

no i did not.
Hi Tiffany - a question. When you got the house, that night, did you just knock on the door, or did you try to look in the wondows? Also, if you had other transportation that night, why did you need a ride from Johnny & Lisa?

yes i did knock and also i rang the door bell for about 5 minutes.and on lisas fron door there are 2 big windows on the side of them yes i did look in i did not see them.and i did not have transportation that night.when they did not answer after a hour i woke up my friends ma n asked to use her car.

& what exactly did you hear Johnny & the man say ?

johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there.

so what about all the lights being on and the cabinets opened?

the lights were on and at the top of the stairs which the stairs are right at the front door there was a closet opened.but never did i say the house was ransacked.johnnys mother said i said that.that was a lie

When you heard the guy talking to Johnny was it in a loud threatning voice? Do you recognize his voice, or have any idea who the killers are? Also will you cell phone records verify you were where you say you were during these phone calls?

i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify.

Just listened to you on the 911 call and I'm curious about something.


i also told the police the exact story.he did say he would call me back.and after i left the first time i drove back and then called a friend whos boyfriend is johnnys best friend .i asked for the number she would not give it to me.she told me stay by my phone shed call me back an 20 minutes later johnnys dad called i told him what happened and told him i was driving back there did he want a ride he said yes so i turned around and picked him up thats why all the time went by.


the only people they said(the police) not to talk to is johnnys family.and thats because of the threats.no they did not tell me i could nt leave town.
no i did not hear lisa.(on the phone)
johnny said bro wut r u doing. and i could not hear what the man said.
my boyfriend was at home doing a paper for school.
no i was not going alone another one of are friends was going also.



i have no idea who murdered them.i really dont feel comfortable answering questions about them doing or being involved with drugs....thats to much info on them that i dont want to post.sorry.!
no my boyfriend does not live alone and he is also clear he took a polygraph for them and passed. i really dont know why this happened.im just as lost as the others when it comes to who did this and why.
personaly i think the lady(Maytee) is crazy.i did not kno her i met her the night of all of this.an as soon as i told her he wasnt answering the phone she said it was my fault.i set her son up. yes i think she is against me and others
i left while the police were ther this was the first time his dad was there.the police said to go they didnt see nothing wrong.i guess johnnys dad went back and kicked the door in.i was not there



we were just going to shoot some pool for a lil bit.no 1 knew we were going to be there and no1 else was coming over
the reason they kept my boyfriend is because he had a warrant for fta..failure to appear for traffic tickets.

i dont htink it was a robbery i thnk it was more personal than what we all know.and ive heard alot of rumors...come on its all rumors what they saying about me .so that should tell you something
me another friend johnny and lisa yes it is the minor.and just so everyone knows he was just a friend ... he has been questioned also

it is true they used the garage door to get in the house.the garage door was closed when i got there.and when the police got there the lights were still on.and i have no idea what the intraband pants are either.
did not go to the back og the house and thats were they siad they looked in.so im not sure.and i really cant say about the mother .im confused to all this to.

yes i was there 1 other time.(Straub home)
Had he (Johnny) ever commented to you about anyone being angry at him for any reason?

yes the guy he told on that was involved with his robbery.
thank you and god bless but no johnnys family wasnt thankful they blamed me.and youre also welcome for coming and answering your questions.also.i got to go for a moment but i will return to answer some more for all of you.god bless you all

Thank you, thank you, thank you! Those are the statements I had no luck finding. When matched up with Tiffany's convo with the 911 operator, it becomes clear the story has changed for whatever reason.