Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Jane]

There's also conflicting reports and the lights being on...if what TW claims is accurate that only the light in the stairwell was on, how did the cousin see the bodies? Guess you would have to re-create the scenario to find out...dunno but i get more confused with every post

someone brought up a good point, last night, & I really think it's how it went down. I think JC's father kicked the door in, BEFORE that last 911 call was made, where Maytee is saying she can see her son lying inside the house, etc ... As soon as he kicked in the door, & saw what he saw, I imagine, THAT'S when Maytee called again (the last time)

we know that. that has never been in question. the last 911 call is when she reports that they have been found. i don't understand what u r saying????? of course they would find the bodies and then call 911. u r not making any sense at all???????????????????

Ok having a problem with unidentified caller...no cell number to trace, no pings, she obviously wasn't Maytee or by now they would have ascertained it's not Maytee...with the FBI involved, cmon now with that the elite squad of invesigators and they haven't identified the caller...either the caller is so connected to such a brilliant hit no federal investigation can place or maybe they already know and are waiting for the final evidence or I'm starting to get scared now...even the FBI can't get a finger on this case. Reallly? WOW...they already released the profile...those are fairly accurate...once again... and usually a here we come get ready move.....all the silence from LE I believe is cuz someone bigger, stronger, better and more capable of the arrest is already in the house. problem is...their case is so important this case seems unsolved.

what unidentified caller r u talking about??????? maybe i'm just tired!

there is no unidentified caller. I figured out, last night, it only 'says' that on the TRANSCRIPT of the 911 call. It's obvious the person IS Maytee. She says "my son" , Hope this clears this up?

[netsleuth]

I complained that the Justice page was a fake (as per FB categories.) I suggest others do the same. "Justice" does not equal advocating against the family and for a potential suspect.

[Lady Cop]

i hate having to leave you all, but must be gone a couple hours...now play nice.
i dread to think how many pages i'll need to catch up! :O

[JsMom]

"SM" sure looked disraught on Jan 31 in that TV/Det Stooksbury tape

She sure did! Poor Thing! I just wanted to hug her!

[netsleuth]

WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT? I WILL NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO BASH JOHNNY AND LISA, OR PROVIDE LINKS OR IDENTIFYING INFORMATION TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO GO TO A SITE WHERE LIBELOUS INFORMATION ABOUT JOHNNY AND LISA IS HOSTED!
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No, she's just taken to bashing relatives by openly defending a person known to have a dispute with a grieving parent over a particular conversation.

[ZEROSPHERES]

i hate having to leave you all, but must be gone a couple hours...now play nice.
i dread to think how many pages i'll need to catch up! :O

Enjoy yourself Lady Cop.....You have left good instructions on how we should behave....This is a great site...

[netsleuth]

i know that girl, i met her last week actually. she referred to johnny as "her first love"
needless to say she was upset when i brought the topic up (not knowing who she was) and didnt want to talk much about it.

Lovely girl. A teacher. Seems Johnny had good taste. :(

[JsMom]

JSMom: would like to hear all angels of this story



i don't think there are any angels in this sad story.


just teasing you! couldn't resist!

LOL~ I get to typin so fast and I always make mistakes "typos" :B

[EastCoastKat]

Lady Cop: Any more stuff on that page and I will post it where it belongs, I forgot about that thread!


http://mockforums.net/post-130077.html#pid130077

[Jane]

i hate having to leave you all, but must be gone a couple hours...now play nice.
i dread to think how many pages i'll need to catch up! :O

have fun! I just got kicked offline, & I had a really thoughtful post, ready to enter, LOL

[Jane]

Is anyone besides me squeaked by the photos of M and J here?
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab=3#!...57&theater

Not really but look at this

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=52...57&theater

Does that tattoo say Maytee?

How observant! Good Post! Maytee means "loveable" in Basque language. Cuban mothers are very loving with their sons!

Interesting about the Basque meaning.

Considering Johnny had his mother's name tattooed on him, and all of the photos of them cheek to cheek, he must have loved his mom very much. Doesn't mean she didn't drive him nuts or away.

Glad you posted this. I was thinking last night, maybe he sort of felt sorry for her. If it's true, she left for 5 yrs, while an aunt & uncle took care of him, he probably felt 'torn', in regards to her. I can picture her asking for his forgiveness, crying, etc... as he got older. It could be he really didn't love her so much, as he felt bad for her, her being his mother & all. Just an observation.

[Jane]

we, the public, are starved for some news on this case. i am pro-LE all the way strangely enough, heh, and i do understand the news blackout from authorities. but i think they REALLY REALLY NEED TO SAY SOMETHING. this is not their garden-variety drug thug case, it has clearly captured the attention and imagination of people everywhere. the Dept. probably is very conscious of that. and we also need to bear in mind, the less public info given out, the less likely some sleazy defense attny. will be able to declare massive pre-trial publicity has been prejudicial against the poor client(s) who were badly potty trained and not responsible for being depraved, then whine for a change of venue. they could also sit in jail awaiting trial for years. and i want to see this trial!
and consider this prospect...what if there is never an arrest? (not likely, but anything is possible). you don't take a capital murder case to trial w/o all the evidence you need to win at trial. even then you could get o.j.'s jury.

oh lawd, don't get me started on OJ !! Good points made, LC!

[netsleuth]

Jash, well done on the compilation of statements.

[Jane]

Regarding TW and the way she speaks, I think some are putting too much stock in how she speaks to her peers compared with how she posted in here the other night. I don't see that as meaning a damn thing, I just don't. I know young people who use that slang online & in texting yet are perfectly capable of using great language skills in real life. I think it's irrelevant.

thank you! I agree 100%

[ZEROSPHERES]

Is anyone besides me squeaked by the photos of M and J here?
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab=3#!...57&theater

Not really but look at this

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=52...57&theater

Does that tattoo say Maytee?

How observant! Good Post! Maytee means "loveable" in Basque language. Cuban mothers are very loving with their sons!

Interesting about the Basque meaning.

Considering Johnny had his mother's name tattooed on him, and all of the photos of them cheek to cheek, he must have loved his mom very much. Doesn't mean she didn't drive him nuts or away.

Glad you posted this. I was thinking last night, maybe he sort of felt sorry for her. If it's true, she left for 5 yrs, while an aunt & uncle took care of him, he probably felt 'torn', in regards to her. I can picture her asking for his forgiveness, crying, etc... as he got older. It could be he really didn't love her so much, as he felt bad for her, her being his mother & all. Just an observation.

Gee Whiz!!...this is the second time i see a reference to "she left for 5 years"..I am intrigued and I gotta ask again.....WHERE DID SHE GO?

[AriGold]

Now this: Justice for JC and LS on FB:

QUIT POSTING THE LINK OR NAME OF THE SITE THAT TRASHES LISA STRAUB AND JOHNNY CLARKE!

WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE GET IT? I WILL NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO BASH JOHNNY AND LISA, OR PROVIDE LINKS OR IDENTIFYING INFORMATION TO CAUSE PEOPLE TO GO TO A SITE WHERE LIBELOUS INFORMATION ABOUT JOHNNY AND LISA IS HOSTED!

I fucking hate his person. I hate them hard.

[Jane]

NO, she wasn't even consistent, on the 911 call she says she called JC right back and texted LS, on the board here she says she waited a hour didn't call them because JC said he would call her in an hour... why wouldn't she mention that to the 911 operator, oh he said he would call me in an hour so I didn't bother checking or calling anyone, NOPE she never says that once, infact she supposedly was worried right away calling him right back and texting LS,how on earth are these 2 statements consistent? You got me??? She is a manipulator. Drug addicts and cons know how to do it the best and playing stupid is probably on of her biggest ruses. Or saying things to certain people. Version #1 I called Johnny right back and texted LS. Or Version#2 Oh I waited an hour cause JC said to wait an hour.They know every trick in the book, at the risk of repeating myself, just ask people who deal with them, parents, lovers, kids, employers, parole officer, doctors that they get to write them prescriptions. I would believe that maybe all that tough nigga/bytch talk on her FB site was just stupid stuff, IF, if it didnt' have the rapsheet and the dead ex to go along with it. She knows way more and even who was involved in this and I agree Sociopaths are charming when they want something that is!!

This is what I've been trying to get across, but only a few people are getting it - and it really is quite serious...

I don't remember Tiffany saying that JC told her to wait an hour. I thought she said that he said he would call her back and when he didn't call back in an hour, she went to the Straub's house to see if everything was OK.

THANK YOU! Tiffany never said JC told her he'd call her back in an hour!!

Thank you Jane, Yeah I was typing so fast I mistyped, there was another post where I spelled it out better....but to be absolutely correct, I will post again why I believe this is important:

She said she waited an hour, because JC said he would call her back-
She never mentions JC saying he would call her back on the 911...she doen't say she waited an hour, she says she started calling and texting right back-

So what's the story? Did TW wait an hour because JC said he would call her back like she said on the board-or did she start to call/text right back like she said on the 911 call:

"I called him right back and he didn't answer. so I texted my friend Lisa's phone and and I was like umm where are you are, are you guys okay and they have not answered to me nothing they have not answered the phone and I been callin and callin...callin"

To me, TW sounds pretty worried about their safety on the 911 call when she says she called them right back. Or she wasn't worried until an hour later because JC said he would call her back? Why didn't she say Jc said he would call her back on the 911 call?

Was this at 11pm or an hour later?

SORRY, THAT IS A BIG DEAL, NOT INCONSEQUENTIAL AT ALL...

IT GOES TO THE TIMELINE OF THE VICTIMS...WHEN WERE THE VICTIMS UNABLE TO ANSWER AT 11pm OR AN HOUR LATER?? DID THE PHONE GO DEAD AT 11pm OR WAS IT AN HOUR LATER?? HOW IS THAT INCONSEQUENTIAL???

Sorry, that is a big discrepancy!
and I did correct what I mistyped.

I do see your point, but I still go back to thinking TW was extremely rattled, with Maytee there, accusing her of setting Johnny up. I don't doubt there were things she left out, on that call. Until I see something that really 'stands out' to me, I don't believe TW had anything to do with setting up JC & LS. Course I could change my mind.

[netsleuth]

Glad you posted this. I was thinking last night, maybe he sort of felt sorry for her. If it's true, she left for 5 yrs, while an aunt & uncle took care of him, he probably felt 'torn', in regards to her. I can picture her asking for his forgiveness, crying, etc... as he got older. It could be he really didn't love her so much, as he felt bad for her, her being his mother & all. Just an observation.

I believe that he loved his mother and vise-versa. I'm not sure why some are so reluctant to believe that. We're all flawed. Dysfunctional families (which make up about 90% of US families) have affection for one another too.

[Jane]

Has it been confirmed anywhere that LS was strangled w/the black & pink pants?

No. Nothing has been confirmed beyond what was released right at the beginning. Cause of death - asphyxiation.

So we don't know for sure if LS died from the plastic bag over her head. It could have been that she was choked to death, possibly using the pants.

I don't recall them saying what color the pants were...where did you read/hear this?

it was very early on. Pink/Black Interband pants (or was in Intraband) either way, it was stated, in the news they were pink/black pants, under her head.

[Freshbait78]

Regarding TW and the way she speaks, I think some are putting too much stock in how she speaks to her peers compared with how she posted in here the other night. I don't see that as meaning a damn thing, I just don't. I know young people who use that slang online & in texting yet are perfectly capable of using great language skills in real life. I think it's irrelevant.

thank you! I agree 100%

I think it's the content of the speech that most matters. I posted some of that content this morning. How you can be on one page wishing Gods blessings on people & then be on another threatning someone, while your 4 months pregnant no less, speaks volumes. Not the slang or slang style of writing.