Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[shitstorm]

I wish I could? believe her....(Tiffany )I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.


Tiffany told me she didn't have Maytee's phone #...called Sharita for it but Sharita wouldn't give it to her...Sharita finally called Maytee herself.

This is important, if Tiff's phone call story is true. If I were about to do some illicit drugs with some friends, I wouldn't call the cops, I don't think. This is crowd of people with arrest and conviction records. I doubt they have a favorable view of LE and sure don't want to get anyone busted.

[wanttoknow]

I wish I could? believe her....(Tiffany )I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.


Tiffany told me she didn't have Maytee's phone #...called Sharita for it but Sharita wouldn't give it to her...Sharita finally called Maytee herself.

This is important, if Tiff's phone call story is true. If I were about to do some illicit drugs with some friends, I wouldn't call the cops, I don't think. This is crowd of people with arrest and conviction records. I doubt they have a favorable view of LE and sure don't want to get anyone busted.

She has given 2 different versions of the phone call. One they were yelling and the phone went dead. In the other Johnny asked who they were and said he'd call her back. That's a big difference.

[Butterfly Girl]

I wish I could? believe her....(Tiffany )I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.


Tiffany told me she didn't have Maytee's phone #...called Sharita for it but Sharita wouldn't give it to her...Sharita finally called Maytee herself.

This is important, if Tiff's phone call story is true. If I were about to do some illicit drugs with some friends, I wouldn't call the cops, I don't think. This is crowd of people with arrest and conviction records. I doubt they have a favorable view of LE and sure don't want to get anyone busted.

She has given 2 different versions of the phone call. One they were yelling and the phone went dead. In the other Johnny asked who they were and said he'd call her back. That's a big difference.

I think we need to remember when TW was talking to 911 she was also being accused of setting them up my JCs mom im sure the scene was crazy to say the least I'm sure id be frazzled with facts at that point

[shitstorm]

The crap that came to the US in the Mariel boat lift, during the Carter administration, were the worst criminals in Castro's prisons and Jimmy Carter let them all in. I could see that ilk being Maytee's (and Johnny's) relatives.

Yeah, what a horrible thing to do...put them right on the boats to FL along with letting all of the crazies out too from their mental institutions...

Castro had to get a laugh out of that. The bleeding heart liberals, in this country, who supported it are partially responsible for helping to entrench this criminal element into American society. They're the same idiots supporting amnesty for illegals.

[wanttoknow]

She has given 2 different versions of the phone call. One they were yelling and the phone went dead. In the other Johnny asked who they were and said he'd call her back. That's a big difference.
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I think we need to remember when TW was talking to 911 she was also being accused of setting them up my JCs mom im sure the scene was crazy to say the least I'm sure id be frazzled with facts at that point
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She told that to Mr. Z mom. Maytee was no where around her.

[shitstorm]

The REAL Mafia ran Cuba, prior to the communist Cuban revolution. .................................................... They aren't the street thugs. The crap that came to the US in the Mariel boat lift, during the Carter administration, were the worst criminals in Castro's prisons and Jimmy Carter let them all in. I could see that ilk being Maytee's (and Johnny's) relatives.

How do you know all this and put it all together? I guess I have
known dribs and drabs but never the sequencing you share here. I
feel so stupid.
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No reason to feel stupid. I just happen to be interested in politics and history. Anybody can learn A little bit of that Cuban Mafia connection was part of the plot in The Godfather II.

As for making a connection - Maytee is Cuban and proud of it. Given her history I would just guess that her people were the lower class of criminals who came over here.

[shitstorm]

So I got an email from TW threatning to beat me up because of something I said on FB....

Oh wow. The pregnant mother of three threatening violence. Imagine that.

hahaha! Who could make this shit up?

An aside - When I lived in Los Angeles one of the gals in the office I worked in was Mexican American. Parents from Mexico. She was beautiful and refined but she would also fight, lol! I couldn't believe it. She had removing her earrings and braiding her hair down, when the need arose. At an office Christmas party there was another Mexican chick there, who was pregnant, and the one I'm talking about got pissed off at her and punched her out! She didn't give a shit that she was pregnant. I guess this is standard operating procedure in some cultures. Blew my mind.

Considering that I am an actual minority in NM, and am surrounded by Mexican culture, I would definitely agree with that post.
"Girl, hold my earrings, Imabout to fuck a bitch up"

I have a friend who was assaulted by a Mexican EMPLOYEE at - get this - The Community Against Violence Thrift Store in Taos!

[TotallyCurious]

I wish I could? believe her....(Tiffany )I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.


Tiffany told me she didn't have Maytee's phone #...called Sharita for it but Sharita wouldn't give it to her...Sharita finally called Maytee herself.

She has given 2 different versions of the phone call. One they were yelling and the phone went dead. In the other Johnny asked who they were and said he'd call her back. That's a big difference.

This is important, if Tiff's phone call story is true. If I were about to do some illicit drugs with some friends, I wouldn't call the cops, I don't think. This is crowd of people with arrest and conviction records. I doubt they have a favorable view of LE and sure don't want to get anyone busted.

I think we need to remember when TW was talking to 911 she was also being accused of setting them up my JCs mom im sure the scene was crazy to say the least I'm sure id be frazzled with facts at that point

I am in media and no two stories are ever said the same way. There are
several reasons for this and one being that the second time they want
to add things they forgot. This is quite acceptable and there are easy
ways of filtering and getting them to tell the exact truth without embarrassing
them. But just so you know, we throughly expect it, especially when a
person is in some type of shock. So lets just let this one be a wash for
the time.:O:OB

[LedZeppelin]

Hi to all of you, I am new here, trying to catch up with all the new posts, but is almost impossible... Very sick child and moving from one country to another completely beat me up...
I can't believe that we still do not know much, but I strongly believe that soon this case will be solved. It must be a reason why LE keeps being quiet...
LC I still work on my avatar...

[TotallyCurious]

I wish I could? believe her....(Tiffany )I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.


Tiffany told me she didn't have Maytee's phone #...called Sharita for it but Sharita wouldn't give it to her...Sharita finally called Maytee herself.

She has given 2 different versions of the phone call. One they were yelling and the phone went dead. In the other Johnny asked who they were and said he'd call her back. That's a big difference.

This is important, if Tiff's phone call story is true. If I were about to do some illicit drugs with some friends, I wouldn't call the cops, I don't think. This is crowd of people with arrest and conviction records. I doubt they have a favorable view of LE and sure don't want to get anyone busted.

I think we need to remember when TW was talking to 911 she was also being accused of setting them up my JCs mom im sure the scene was crazy to say the least I'm sure id be frazzled with facts at that point

I am in media and no two stories are ever said the same way. There are
several reasons for this and one being that the second time they want
to add things they forgot. This is quite acceptable and there are easy
ways of filtering and getting them to tell the exact truth without embarrassing
them. But just so you know, we throughly expect it, especially when a
person is in some type of shock. So lets just let this one be a wash for
the time.:O:OB::

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The REAL Mafia ran Cuba, prior to the communist Cuban revolution. The Cubans who worked for the Mafia all emigrated to the US and are tight with the criminals in the CIA. They were the guys who did the Bay of Pigs invasion during the JFK administration ...........................during the Carter administration, were the worst criminals in Castro's prisons and Jimmy Carter let them all in. I could see that ilk being Maytee's (and Johnny's) relatives.

:offtopic

shitstorm.....
You may find this interesting....
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2011/f...ed-kennedy
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Thanks for that link!!! I despised Ted Kennedy. I was thrilled when he FINALLY died. He was a traitor.

[LedZeppelin]

So I got an email from TW threatning to beat me up because of something I said on FB....

Oh wow. The pregnant mother of three threatening violence. Imagine that.

hahaha! Who could make this shit up?

An aside - When I lived in Los Angeles one of the gals in the office I worked in was Mexican American. Parents from Mexico. She was beautiful and refined but she would also fight, lol! I couldn't believe it. She had removing her earrings and braiding her hair down, when the need arose. At an office Christmas party there was another Mexican chick there, who was pregnant, and the one I'm talking about got pissed off at her and punched her out! She didn't give a shit that she was pregnant. I guess this is standard operating procedure in some cultures. Blew my mind.

Considering that I am an actual minority in NM, and am surrounded by Mexican culture, I would definitely agree with that post.
"Girl, hold my earrings, Imabout to fuck a bitch up"

I have a friend who was assaulted by a Mexican EMPLOYEE at - get this - The Community Against Violence Thrift Store in Taos!

lol

[imsuchawildflower]

Just found this on another post...

think there were drugs there and that is what was taken. I realize that it is just my opinion but I believe there was a significant amount there that was uncut due to the scales and baggies being on the counter.

This case has looked like a drug-related home invasion from the beginning. Someone knew he had most recently got in an amount of drugs and they went there to take them or he was screwing his supplier...

Drugs is at the core of this because it is the easiest explanation for how things went down.

The friend did not call the police and waited because she did not know exactly what was going on over there but she knew one thing for sure and that is that her friends were involved in drugs. Having the police go over there and not know if the police was 'needed' could cause her friends to get busted. I do not find the friends actions suspicious and I do not think she set up or was involved in the home invasion.

This case probably will not get solved until someone is arrested for something and snitches.

This person makes a WHOLE lot of sense...a WHOLE lot.

[shitstorm]

ALL of this shit needs to be legalized for recreational use. It might keep the dirtbags adequately sedated so they aren't out on the street. They can pass out playing their X Boxes. If these drugs were cheap and available they'd be out of business in terms of selling it and they wouldn't have to rob anyone to get it. There is a REASON that even harmless substances like weed are illegal and it's all about money. Don't forget that Catherine Austin Fitts video that I posted about the illegal drug trade funding Wall Street. Certain elements of the US gov't were running heroin out of SE Asia as far back as Vietnam. It's big business that funds black ops projects. Now we have the smoking Nazis trying to outlaw cigarettes. They day that happens, I join a gang.

Don't plan on visiting New York City. No smoking on main streets and parks
or beaches in another couple months.
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Thanks to Mayor "King of NYC" Bloomberg, a control freak Jew who wants NYC to be like London, a New World Order Orwellian nightmare. I hope someone challenges it in court.

[TotallyCurious]

Hi to all of you, I am new here, trying to catch up with all the new posts, but is almost impossible... Very sick child and moving from one country to another completely beat me up...
I can't believe that we still do not know much, but I strongly believe that soon this case will be solved. It must be a reason why LE keeps being quiet...
LC I still work on my avatar...

i wish your move well and if there is anything I can do, I wil be most
happy to assist. Have family in nine different US cities if you are US.
Frel free to PM me with any questions,

[imsuchawildflower]

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.
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If she knew there could be drugs in the house, I totally agree with
you, and she tried to put it into the hands of adults to make the
decision.
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She IS an adult.

[Butterfly Girl]

I cant help but feel for maytee and what shes going through losing a child in this way... I dont have a clue who did this so many different senerios here... she is in definate pain over the loss of her son like shes beside herself with grief :(

[shitstorm]

Hi to all of you, I am new here, trying to catch up with all the new posts, but is almost impossible... Very sick child and moving from one country to another completely beat me up...
I can't believe that we still do not know much, but I strongly believe that soon this case will be solved. It must be a reason why LE keeps being quiet...
LC I still work on my avatar...

Hi, there

What countries did you move from and to?

[imsuchawildflower]

It is just a matter of when someone makes the move for the reward or has someone do it for them. These types talk big of not snitching, but when push comes to shove. Money or lacking a heavier sentence speaks volumes!

When I was in Family Dollar today, the girls behind me were talking about the reward. That's alot of money in this neighborhood. I think someones going to talk soon. I hope so, this is driving me nuts.
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For most, a years pay...or more.

[imsuchawildflower]

That is impossible to do based on her criminal history. Its documented that she has lied to LE before.
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But she called Sharita and tried to get ahold of Maytee. That had
nothing to do with cops except perhaps protecting the people in
the house from a bust and herself from any problems if she was
fucked up.

*Tiffany, I hope you do not disappoint me.*

I was more referencing the fact that she isnt just a *said* liar, or *accused* liar. No rumor in being convicted of lying.
Cant argue that. Shes a known liar...its public record.