Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[onefortheroad]

If he is involved, wonder if Tiff's fan club still think she's innocent....?


My vote is on YES

You're probably right

[shitstorm]

this is an interesting FB page: (THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT RELATED TO THIS CASE, but just found it interesting about gangs in TOledo)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profi...62&sk=wall

and I know, I know but I just thought it was interesting.

It is interesting and it germane to the topic at hand.

WTF is up with the gangs (Crips?) using the zionazi star of David (which was actually a more ancient symbol appropriated by the Rothschilds)? That is really bizarre. What's next, a menorah?

The Star of David is a six pointed star and is the symbol that Crips use.
The Bloods use the five pointed (regular) star.

Oh vey!

[shitstorm]

I lose patience with the bleeding hearts who constantly allow themselves to be conned by the human faces these degenerates present and don't recognize that all they are is masks. Most of us are taken in sometimes, but some people just never learn. Society would be much safer and more evolved if these no-hope losers were thrown away along with the keys to their cages, but instead they’re given chance after chance by well-meaning but gullible marks.

All of this has caused me to reflect back on New Orleans, in the post Katrina days. Do you remember when all of those people from NOLA tried to cross the bridge into the next town over and the sheriff's dept of that town met them with a wall of armed sheriffs and would not let them in? I remember thinking, "those poor people", and Anderson Cooper covered it for a week. Well, now I know why that other town didn't want them coming over. I later learned that NOLA was full of projects and a huge percentage of the population were gang bangers. Nobody in their right mind opens their community to that shit - except for the idiots in Houston, which saw an immediate rise in crime as a result.

The dogs are the ones I still feel for. I'll never forget that.

[Red_velvet71]

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: By the way i seen your names in tbe akasha eternal book of life n death and i really liked how cruel slow n painfull all your deaths will be for wat youve done to johnny n lisa even knowing about it and not stoppin it from happening or not helping johnny n lisa automatically brings you curse i cnt wait to see the darkest of curses n magic eat you alive...you done fucked with the wrong witches foreal and yes i emphasize the word witches theirs plenty of us cursing your evil asses every night n day SO MOTE IT BE
4 minutes ago

WOW!! :O

I think this woman has totally gone off the deep end. She's definitely scary! I feel really bad for her two boys that are home with her. She's in need of some mental help, what she's doing is just not normal, not normal at all.

Holy cow!

[shitstorm]

ALL of this shit needs to be legalized for recreational use. It might keep the dirtbags adequately sedated so they aren't out on the street. They can pass out playing their X Boxes. If these drugs were cheap and available they'd be out of business in terms of selling it and they wouldn't have to rob anyone to get it. There is a REASON that even harmless substances like weed are illegal and it's all about money. Don't forget that Catherine Austin Fitts video that I posted about the illegal drug trade funding Wall Street. Certain elements of the US gov't were running heroin out of SE Asia as far back as Vietnam. It's big business that funds black ops projects. Now we have the smoking Nazis trying to outlaw cigarettes. They day that happens, I join a gang.

Don't plan on visiting New York City. No smoking on main streets and parks
or beaches in another couple months.

Thanks to Mayor "King of NYC" Bloomberg, a control freak Jew who wants NYC to be like London, a New World Order Orwellian nightmare. I hope someone challenges it in court.

I don't think we need to be anti semetic here.
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This is a FREE SPEECH board. "Anti semitic" is a false construct invented to shut down FREE SPEECH.

[Red_velvet71]

RIP Johnny Those evil demons are going to suffer the worst death ever for taking my johnny n lisa away from me ;,,( rest in heaven johnny n lisa and to the evil demons that did it DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE i hope u choke n explode on your pathetic blood you skumbags low lives poor excuse for human life I hATE YOU
14 hours ago via iPhone
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RIP Johnny Love u my babiboi ;,,,,,( wish you could call me or just come walking up the stairs into my room and kiss me n tell me( in my johnny voice) i love you ma dukes u need anything? Can i get u a cookie or water? Are u alright mom? ;,,,,,(
16 hours ago via iPhone
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Maggie Vazquez-Cromer ‎:'''(
15 hours ago

RIP Johnny ‎;""""""""((
15 hours ago

RIP Johnny I cnt face the facts of wats happened here ;,,,( i just want my johnny home
15 hours ago

[Butterfly Girl]

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If he is involved, wonder if Tiff's fan club still think she's innocent....?
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I'm not in her fan club... I don't know who did it theres too many possibilities in this one

[Freshbait78]

RIP Johnny Those evil demons are going to suffer the worst death ever for taking my johnny n lisa away from me ;,,( rest in heaven johnny n lisa and to the evil demons that did it DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE i hope u choke n explode on your pathetic blood you skumbags low lives poor excuse for human life I hATE YOU
14 hours ago via iPhone
4 people like this.

RIP Johnny Love u my babiboi ;,,,,,( wish you could call me or just come walking up the stairs into my room and kiss me n tell me( in my johnny voice) i love you ma dukes u need anything? Can i get u a cookie or water? Are u alright mom? ;,,,,,(
16 hours ago via iPhone
2 people like this.

Maggie Vazquez-Cromer ‎:'''(
15 hours ago

RIP Johnny ‎;""""""""((
15 hours ago

RIP Johnny I cnt face the facts of wats happened here ;,,,( i just want my johnny home
15 hours ago

I've been waiting for someone to reference this. In Maytees defense... who amongst us doesn't like a little cookie & water every now & then? but seriously... the dude had his moms name tattooed down his whole freakin arm & he, by her accounts, seemed to be very caring & concerned with her. Although I don't understand her completely... I do feel very bad for her. She is living my worst nightmare & I'm watching it & I have a hard time judging her reaction because frankly I think if it were me I'd go insane & be uttering all kinds of nonsense.

[Inspector Gary]

I'm curious if anyone here has called Lucas County Sheriff's Dept. I know it is probably useless, and I don't want to waste their time, but I'm not going to lie- I have thought about calling dozens of times!!!

I know that there is a lot that they can not say about the investigation. But surely there are some facts of the case that they could confirm!! It is extremely important in any case to establish a timeline. So, for example, could they verify whether or not a timeline has been established, and if so, is this something that they would be willing to make public. Also, do they plan to offer a press release to the public - especially the local community! And if so, will the first presser be when an arrest is made?

Normally, POI (persons of interest) names are released right away- unless they are a minor. So, do they have a POI(s)??

Surely there is something that they can release!! Curious to see if anyone asked any of these questions, and if so, what were they told. Probably nothing, but geez!!!!

[Butterfly Girl]

I've been waiting for someone to reference this. In Maytees defense... who amongst us doesn't like a little cookie & water every now & then? but seriously... the dude had his moms name tattooed down his whole freakin arm & he, by her accounts, seemed to be very caring & concerned with her. Although I don't understand her completely... I do feel very bad for her. She is living my worst nightmare & I'm watching it & I have a hard time judging her reaction because frankly I think if it were me I'd go insane & be uttering all kinds of nonsense.
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I totally agree being a mother I can't even imagine I just wonder why somone isn't doing some kind of intervention and getting her some help dealing with her grief .. that is said in a compassionate way not at all bashing her

[Freshbait78]

RIP Johnny
Your smiles n good times will soon come to an end traitor snakes then the bloody endless tears will start and your pain will never end... Thats a promise...so enjoy the lil time you have left to smile cus its all coming to an end when you least expect it...........i will make sure justice prevails for u and lisa my sweet angel

5 minutes ago via iPhone ·LikeUnlike ·

[imsuchawildflower]

Taken from the justice will prevail page on FB.Somethings about to go down I think!!I think she is summoning up a demon or the devil hisself!!!

She is.

Hecate Kali::
The symbol of the Dark Goddess is the new moon. She is the Crone, the Great Queen, the Supreme War Goddess. She is both fate and death, the cradle and the grave. She is also a warrior, a protector, a wise woman, and a healer. She represents old age, winter, the waning moon, and destruction. She is the grandmother aspect of the Triple Goddess and is known as the Morrigu (also Morgan, Morrigan, Morrighan) by the Celts. She is also called Scathatch Kali, Hecate, Lillith, and a multitude of names by many other cultures.

Her symbol is the raven or the crow. Along with Fea (Hateful), Badb (Fury), Nemain (Venomous& Frenzy) and Macha (Battle), she (Revenge) is said to drive men towards battle ecstasy ( madness) and aided the Berserkersof olde in battle. The Dark Goddess is the patroness of witches and priestesses. She rules revenge, the night, magick, and prophecy.

Some other reasons to invoke this Goddess might be for justice, protection, wisdom, to gain strength and for divinations. She is also helpful in banishing fear, illness, or bad habits. She protects children and is helpful for general balancing purposes.
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Annubis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anubis
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So Mote It Be:: This depends on the particular Tradition or religious group. "So mote it be" is near equivocable expression to the Judeo-Christian "Amen", though "So Mote It Be" doesn't mean "Amen." The phrase used by some Wiccans means "As I will it, so it shall be." Wheras the phrase as used in Freemasonry has a seperate conotation meaning one of two things "The will of God shall be done..." or "whatever the answer to one's prayer truly is, may it be done through the will of God." Although these definitions are distinct, they have similarities. In Wiccan theology, one's true will, and one's spiritual desires are directed by the Divine. To the Freemason, entering into the will of God will direct one to their true calling. The similarity is that of union with the divine, and the permenance of the "will." This phrase is also used by some Christians, Kabbalists, and percievably many other religious and spiritual affiliations.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_me...z1FBzpKgna

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Elegua::
The exception is Elegua. He is the quintessential prophet of cause and effect. Elegua is at once nowhere and everywhere. He is the ultimate embodiment of choice. He knows every decision possible and every outcome possible born of each individual decision. Oftentimes, Elegua is depicted at a crossroads because in life we are always at a crossroads, whether or not we feel it. Some decisions are harder to make than others, in those times we may feel we literally have no direction, no sense of where to turn. This is the domain of Elegua. It is strange to equivocate Elegua with chance or luck when within in the realm of all-knowing, concepts such as chance or luck become obsolete. Yet, this is the very reason all good fortune and consequently all bad fortune is attributed to Elegua. For this reason, he is one of the first orichas to be received. He literally opens the doors in a person’s life and allows them to pass into good fortune— the fortune of their own life path.
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THAT is some scarey shit...

[Lady Cop]

i could not lay my head down at night and sleep thinking of my child being murdered that way, and what was going through their mind in their last moments. i could not live after that. i fully understand her rage and horror and utter despair. what will life ever be again but this nightmare thought?
she needs help, any kind of help, spiritual and more.

[imsuchawildflower]

.I wasn't lazy at all...just tech dumb...

I still cant figure out why sometimes my quote replies work and sometimes they dont. Ugh. Im so html deficient.
Maybe I was harsh, but with all the other stuff I just clicked around til I figured stuff out. When I couldnt, I read the help section...
And now Im having issues with my password. Ugh.

[Butterfly Girl]

The picture of JS and JC in Fl has a date stamp of July 2010 on it I know someone was wondering when they went there

[browntabby1226]

I've been waiting for someone to reference this. In Maytees defense... who amongst us doesn't like a little cookie & water every now & then? but seriously... the dude had his moms name tattooed down his whole freakin arm & he, by her accounts, seemed to be very caring & concerned with her. Although I don't understand her completely... I do feel very bad for her. She is living my worst nightmare & I'm watching it & I have a hard time judging her reaction because frankly I think if it were me I'd go insane & be uttering all kinds of nonsense.

I totally agree being a mother I can't even imagine I just wonder why somone isn't doing some kind of intervention and getting her some help dealing with her grief .. that is said in a compassionate way not at all bashing her
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I feel once someone is held accountable to this crime, that will help her somewhat.Couldn't imagine her grief.

[Freshbait78]

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I totally agree being a mother I can't even imagine I just wonder why somone isn't doing some kind of intervention and getting her some help dealing with her grief .. that is said in a compassionate way not at all bashing her
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Maybe people have tried? Maybe she's refused? I don't know. All I know is this, there is a saying "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" for a reason & if anyone ever layed one finger on my child in a bad way I wouldn't be pleasant to put it lightly. If anyone murdered my child.... well I might just go look up some black magic hocus pocus shit while I bided my time too. Really, there is NO way for me to know what I would do in those circumstances. Thank God! Which is why I have a hard time judging, again..... there's a strong possibility that I'd be a nutter & like Maytee said "I'm not crazy I'm just a mother whose child was murdered" or something along those lines.......

[imsuchawildflower]

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Just remember a word of wisdom [color=#FFDAB9]


Holy Crap! We need to sprinle the Holly Water! I do wonder if she is referring to Tiffany when saying "I know all of you involved in my johnny n lisas death have kids too...." OMG...she is threatening children ...this is getting really scary...someone needs to grab her and give her some major tranquilizers...I still feel so sorry for her and can't even IMAGINE the heartbreak/agony...but she is really loosing it...This is just all so horrible...

I dont think she is threatening the children. I think she is saying "karma".
basically reminding them, JC was her child, Lisa was her parents child, and karma will get you for doing this to our children, when you have children of your own. I dont see it as threatening a child at all. She is a spiritual healer, psychic and into witchcraft or wicca on some level. They dont believe in handling it yourself, they believe the spirits will handle it. Hence,
the summoning of spirits and calling karma to do her job. Its indirectly towards the children at best. Karma picks and chooses at her own will
who will reap what they have sown...

[imsuchawildflower]

Looks as if we googled the same words and the same websites for answers! LOL

[Freshbait78]

i could not lay my head down at night and sleep thinking of my child being murdered that way, and what was going through their mind in their last moments. i could not live after that. i fully understand her rage and horror and utter despair. what will life ever be again but this nightmare thought?
she needs help, any kind of help, spiritual and more.

Ditto! I've thought about this because it is my worst nightmare & I've often said when talking to people about cases like this, that I'd have to be put up in a padded room. My child is what I have lived for from the moment I knew I was pregnant & I just can't even begin to imagine how a parent who loses their child carries on after their gone, especially when murdered.