(03-04-2011, 02:32 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: So frustrated!!! Still no news!!!
I know how you feel. Each day, after noon, 5,6 and 11pm, I feel so deflated that there were no arrests announced on the news. If this is how WE feel...can you imagine how the families feel? My heart just breaks for them :(
I can NOT even begin to fathom what this must be like for them!! I am not connected to the case and am so frustrated and desperate for answers and justice!!! My heart breaks for BOTH families!! And for their friends!! Please, let there be justice for these kids!!!
(03-04-2011, 12:18 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Did anybody notice who Johnny's best buddy just became friends with on FB? You know the guy and his girlfriend where Johnny watched the Prowbowl and left from there to pick up Lisa for the last time? Well, VD just became friends with AG, well, well I find that very, very interesting!
(03-04-2011, 12:26 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: And 2 weeks before the murders VD became friends with BC.
Looks like he became friends with TW in Nov. 2010.
His house was the last stop for Johnny before picking Lisa up from work....
VD's girlfriend became friends with AG 2wks after the murder, and at the same time she drops her original FB page and opens another one, where she doesn't add TW or AG to her new friend list or any of the southside boys or their girls, which were on her old FB page friends list.
She became friends with TW in Dec. 2010.
She became friends with Paperchasin in Oct. 2010
(she keeps Paperchasin?? adds him on new FB friends list)
And from what I can figure out VD girlfriend was never FB friends with Lisa.
For some reason she wanted to distance herself from that page? She doesn't seem like the rest of this group, she's a high school kid really and hasn't even graduated yet and she talks about California for College and getting out of Toledo, I hope she does.
I hope LE has questioned her, seeing as she was with Johnny right before he picked up Lisa from work (she never mentions being questioned) she might know what he was up to that night, she is not hard like the rest of this group and what she knows, if anything, she would be easy to crack.... I still say look at these old friends of Johnny's these neighborhood thugs and you'll find out a lot.....maybe even the who and why of it....
I think Paperchasin (she took him to her new FB page) told her to distance herself from that page, because he deleted photos like mad...you know the photo of him, AG and DC with the money and gun...yeah Papaerchasin got rid of that photo PRONTO ..JMHO
(03-04-2011, 12:26 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: And 2 weeks before the murders he became friends with BC.
And it looks like he became friends with TW in Nov. 2010.
His house was the last stop before picking Lisa up from work....
Nothing gets by EastCoastKat! VD erased a statement or two between the end of January and February 8th - yacking about being hidden out and having no phone for a few days to someone. I think he had a temporary parting with his girlfriend but, its all patched up now and they are back together. I think whoever's behind this awful deed is saying nothing on facebook but, watching and reading. Very interesting find ECK thanks!
(03-04-2011, 12:26 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: And 2 weeks before the murders he became friends with BC.
And it looks like he became friends with TW in Nov. 2010.
His house was the last stop before picking Lisa up from work....
Nothing gets by EastCoastKat! VD erased a statement or two between the end of January and February 8th - yacking about being hidden out and having no phone for a few days to someone. I think he had a temporary parting with his girlfriend but, its all patched up now and they are back together. I think whoever's behind this awful deed is saying nothing on facebook but, watching and reading. Very interesting find ECK thanks!
Yep, thanks for reminding me that was really weird!!
Hate to be so pessimistic, but I get a feeling the lack of news if due to lack of suspects. Contrary to popular belief, the method of execution to me was done by perps on a much larger scale than TW and crew...they're preferred method has been to take the "easy" way out and use guns. I view this as a professional hit and spoke to a totally different audience than those that have been mentioned here...just my personal belief, unfortunately.
I was looking at the photographs of Lisa & her girlfriends, there is a striking difference between the look of all those young women compared to TW and her friends. The class difference is glaringly obvious.
That was just an observation & adds nothing to your discussion, carry on.
(03-04-2011, 03:25 PM)curious Wrote: Hate to be so pessimistic, but I get a feeling the lack of news if due to lack of suspects. Contrary to popular belief, the method of execution to me was done by perps on a much larger scale than TW and crew...they're preferred method has been to take the "easy" way out and use guns. I view this as a professional hit and spoke to a totally different audience than those that have been mentioned here...just my personal belief, unfortunately.
Good point! The Reward dangles out there and its been a month and just nothing yet - could be your POV - or a loner.
I was looking at the photographs of Lisa & her girlfriends, there is a striking difference between the look of all those young women compared to TW and her friends. The class difference is glaringly obvious.
That was just an observation & adds nothing to your discussion, carry on.
(03-04-2011, 01:24 PM)Methusala Wrote: Anyone care to discuss the use by the County Detective of the term "instigated by the actions of the victims"?
Will they now be applying that term to beatings or murders of spouses or significant others suspected of infidelity?
Or of not having dinner ready?
Lady Cop, am I wrong to think of this as a highly unprofessional remark coming from a police officer?
i just got back here, not caught up yet...but this post stood out to me.
it was absolutely the wrong thing to say! it essentially blames the victims. very poor representation of dept.
(03-04-2011, 12:26 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: And 2 weeks before the murders he became friends with BC.
And it looks like he became friends with TW in Nov. 2010.
His house was the last stop before picking Lisa up from work....
Nothing gets by EastCoastKat! VD erased a statement or two between the end of January and February 8th - yacking about being hidden out and having no phone for a few days to someone. I think he had a temporary parting with his girlfriend but, its all patched up now and they are back together. I think whoever's behind this awful deed is saying nothing on facebook but, watching and reading. Very interesting find ECK thanks!
Yep, thanks for reminding me that was really weird!!
She still has this on her old page:
, Damn Lifes Crazy. I Was Just W. You Lastnight. When You Left To Go Get Your Girl From Work I Never Would Of Guessed It'd Be The Last Time I Seen You. Rest In Peace Johnny ♥
January 31 at 8:00am via DROID (This is only 4hrs after they were found)
"Lifes Too Short. It Was Just Last Weekend I Was Swimming W. Both Of You. And It Was Just Two Nights Ago I Sat On The Phone W. You Johnny And It Was Just Last Night I Was Sitting Next To You.. And A Few Hours Your Gone, Both Of You. I Never Would Of Guessed Thatd Be The Last Time I Ever Seen You." Tomorrows Not Promised. Rest In Heaven Johnny & Lisa. Much Love ♥
January 31 at 10:10pm via Mobile Web
Lifes Too Short. It Was Just Last Weekend I Was Swimming W. Both Of You. And It Was Just A Couple Nights Ago I Sat On The Phone W. You Johnny & A Few Hours Before It Happened I Was Sitting Next To You.. And Now Your Gone, Both Of You. I Never Would Of Guessed Thatd Be The Last Time I Ever Seen You. Tomorrows Not Promised. Rest In Heaven Johnny & Lisa. Much Love ♥
February 1 at 12:10pm via Mobile Web
, Damn Johnny, I Miss You So Much . It Was A Weak Ago I Was Watchin The Pro Bowl With You Now Its The Super Bowl And You Ain't Even Here To Watch It With Us. Shits Crazy. Love Youu Johnny ♥ I Miss You Man. Rest In Paradise Johnny & Lisa
February 6 at 2:21pm via Mobile Web
I sure LE questioned her.....but who knows?? She doesn't seem like a bad kid at all, just a little young and naive to be getting mixed up with this bunch!!
I was looking at the photographs of Lisa & her girlfriends, there is a striking difference between the look of all those young women compared to TW and her friends. The class difference is glaringly obvious.
That was just an observation & adds nothing to your discussion, carry on.
Right on Duchess!
I agree...but it does add to the discussion...because as one of JC's cousins put it on the Justice page, she was from "rich ville" I think it was glaringly obvious to that group too, and they probably did think that Lisa's parents were rich, hence the ransacking of the parent's bedroom, professionals don't ransack the parent's bedroom, sorry, but people who think somebody's parent's are from "rich ville" and may have some big money hid in the home and their gone for a couple of weeks, would!
(03-04-2011, 01:24 PM)Methusala Wrote: Anyone care to discuss the use by the County Detective of the term "instigated by the actions of the victims"?
Will they now be applying that term to beatings or murders of spouses or significant others suspected of infidelity?
Or of not having dinner ready?
Lady Cop, am I wrong to think of this as a highly unprofessional remark coming from a police officer?
I agree Methusala, It may just be stated to calm the fears of the public and saying "you're safe". They were into stuff that brought this upon themselves, so everyone else has nothing to worry about.
As someone from the area, I think the whole article and the comments are bunk. How is LE so sure the people who did this are no longer in the area? Must be they have a suspect then, right? Why not name them or other POIs? Is this just a theory of LE or are arrests coming soon? LE should not make those comments without backing them up.
I am not reassured that we are safe. Even if the murderers aren't originally from the area, they sure found there way here at just the right time and were able to get away with this so far. The callous nature of the crimes just reinforces the fact that the perps don't GIVE A FUCK and they'll kill you if you get in their way too.
And another thing, why wouldn't LE warn others who are involved in such activities that might bring a similar fate? Shit, someone needs to be warned here. Just because they were *allegedly* dealing drugs doesn't mean they deserved to die and doesn't mean that everyone else in the world is safe. It's bullshit. Fuck this case. I'm getting more pissed everytime I open the paper, praying they have arrested someone here and I see NOTHING. Not a mention. Not a peep.
AND - If LE is so comfortable the suspects are long gone, why the billboards. Liars. They don't know shit.
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Of course, I will gladly eat a truckload of crow if they do know something and arrest somebody tomorrow.
(03-04-2011, 01:57 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: So....IS heroin the drug of choice in Toledo area?
Not to sound like a broken record, since I have mentioned this many times here, but the newest opiate of choice in Toledo is fentanyl. These are the pain patches typically prescribed for cancer patients (gel inside, you put the patch on and it provides relief for up to 3 days). Anyway - the addicts here open the patches up and eat that shit. It is also sold cut and sold as a powder form or a rock (looks a lot like crack) that can be smoked. Costs about $50 a hit. Comes down from the Dirty.
Of course, herion in widely popular in the area as well, mainly because it is cheap. Most of the kids who start out sneaking their parents percs or oxys end up doing heroin when the script runs out. They can't afford to buy pills on the street so they move on to H and will steal from everyone to pay for their habit.
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