Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[kitty1]

March 5^th on Mock. Tricky going back and rereading. But that was the day that a member (not kitty1) first said that DNA was back. Kind of puts a new spin on things, imo. Makes me go hmmm...

Thanks What's up.

moo

What makes you go Hmmm?

[kitty1]

i want some backup or a reliable source for things stated as facts.
i have said this repeatedly.

Oops! Sorry again LC for not stating a source for what I post as fact. I was in attendence at both the showing and funeral.

[fabulous]

Wrong! No one seemed to doubt DCTim or Unknown?? Why is everyone doubting me?? Why should I post if I'm not gonna be believed? I didn't intentionally "dangle bait" like someone mentioned. I just decided at the last minute to edit, that's all. I'm in a difficult spot so I think I will just lurk if that is OK with LC and Duchess.

don't be a LURKER....I love your posts!

[Adub]

March 5^th on Mock. Tricky going back and rereading. But that was the day that a member (not kitty1) first said that DNA was back. Kind of puts a new spin on things, imo. Makes me go hmmm...

Thanks What's up.

moo

What makes you go Hmmm?

Just what was said in the post and who said it. It would appear that others here on Mock have heard that some DNA was back, which doesn't surprise me in the least. The hmmm part was mostly related to why you were singled out and questioned about what you had heard when others from the area are aware also of some DNA results. A little Toledo turf war going on here at Mock, I guess. It's all good. I'm just waiting for some movement in the case.

[kitty1]

Wrong! No one seemed to doubt DCTim or Unknown?? Why is everyone doubting me?? Why should I post if I'm not gonna be believed? I didn't intentionally "dangle bait" like someone mentioned. I just decided at the last minute to edit, that's all. I'm in a difficult spot so I think I will just lurk if that is OK with LC and Duchess.

don't be a LURKER....I love your posts!

Thanks! Your'e Fabulous!

[What's Up]

i want some backup or a reliable source for things stated as facts.
i have said this repeatedly.

Oops! Sorry again LC for not stating a source for what I post as fact. I was in attendence at both the showing and funeral.

Then you know she wasn't buried....

[NightOwl]

Wrong! No one seemed to doubt DCTim or Unknown?? Why is everyone doubting me?? Why should I post if I'm not gonna be believed? I didn't intentionally "dangle bait" like someone mentioned. I just decided at the last minute to edit, that's all. I'm in a difficult spot so I think I will just lurk if that is OK with LC and Duchess.

don't be a LURKER....I love your posts!

DITTO!

[kfran]

Found this on the RIP page - I think this is more proof that this young couple were so in love!

RIP Johnny
Thank you ;,,((( god bless you and yes they were engaged to be married upon graduation from college and my grandbabies would be beautiful. Both my johnny n lisa are beautiful n gorgeous their love
for each other and our families is unconditional it lives on forever

So tragic, it does makes more sense to me as to why she was laid to rest in a wedding dress per a previous post.

I just hope she wasn't pregnant...LC would that information have been made public by now?

Oh dear Lord! This is how easily rumors get started. Misreading comments & going where it isn't necessary to go w/ones comments. It's like a bunch of elementary kids playing "Telephone."

[NightOwl]

Morning Mockers!

This is off topic - upon checking The Toledo Blade Newspaper - more sad news - a young police officer shot dead Sandusky, Ohio just east of Toledo, just can't imagine by a bastard on a bike yet. My heart breaks for this young officer's wife and 2 children. Prayers to the family!

[Lady Cop]

Morning Mockers!

This is off topic - upon checking The Toledo Blade Newspaper - more sad news - a young police officer shot dead Sandusky, Ohio just east of Toledo, just can't imagine by a bastard on a bike yet. My heart breaks for this young officer's wife and 2 children. Prayers to the family!

posts #89-93 here:

http://mockforums.net/post-147167.html#pid147167

[JsMom]

Morning Mockers!

This is off topic - upon checking The Toledo Blade Newspaper - more sad news - a young police officer shot dead Sandusky, Ohio just east of Toledo, just can't imagine by a bastard on a bike yet. My heart breaks for this young officer's wife and 2 children. Prayers to the family!

whats our world coming to? SAD! prayers goin to Sanduskys family

[Duchess]

whats our world coming to? SAD! prayers goin to Sanduskys family

I think Sandusky might be the name of the town, sweetie.

[kitty1]

Oops! Sorry again LC for not stating a source for what I post as fact. I was in attendence at both the showing and funeral.
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Then you know she wasn't buried....
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Yes.

[kitty1]

Found this on the RIP page - I think this is more proof that this young couple were so in love!

RIP Johnny
Thank you ;,,((( god bless you and yes they were engaged to be married upon graduation from college and my grandbabies would be beautiful. Both my johnny n lisa are beautiful n gorgeous their love
for each other and our families is unconditional it lives on forever

So tragic, it does makes more sense to me as to why she was laid to rest in a wedding dress per a previous post.

I just hope she wasn't pregnant...LC would that information have been made public by now?

Oh dear Lord! This is how easily rumors get started. Misreading comments & going where it isn't necessary to go w/ones comments. It's like a bunch of elementary kids playing "Telephone."

So very true! And like I said in the beginning, I believe that some of the discrepancies with the 911 calls (basement versus kitchen, I saw them thru the window versus my cousin saw them, the phone dropped or didn't drop) can be attributed to the "Telephone" game. A game that was played amidst chaos and elevated emotions.

Glad to see you back Fran! I missed you!

[kitty1]

whats our world coming to? SAD! prayers goin to Sanduskys family

I think Sandusky might be the name of the town, sweetie.

I realy shouldn't laugh but that was kinda cute

[EastCoastKat]

Hi fellow Mockers, missed you

One thing that has always nagged at me is the choice of photos that TW posted on fb days after the murder. The one with DC flipping a bird ... and then TW, BA, VD and one other guy. That other guy moved to North Carolina right around the pivotal time. North Carolina? Just one of those things that make me go hmmmm.....

Yeah you are talking about JB, correct? His new FB page is pretty weird with the gun and then 2 40oz's DUCT taped to his hands! He was also in the original pixs of the "southside boys" partying with LS and her friends in those Summer pictures. He is also in many of the pictures from VD's girlfriends pictures.

why does it seem that every one talk's alott of bs about t.w and what she has been threw in her life has nothing to do with this case people do make mistakes in their life & need guidance my focus is on m.c and the fact that she is nt telling the whole truth wich is having every one go crazy over this case 1)ok tw called jc mom and said she was un able to reach him after a hr after they talked ok fine may be phone did go dead why did m.c just jump to a conclusion that some thing was wrong did she know what her son was in to ? did she know what was going to happen ? dont get me wrong i do feel sorry for what happend im just trying to get the truth and nothing but the truth

1. She has changed her version as to what exactly happened and was said on the phone between her and JC (like adding that JC said he would call her back) and what she said she heard the man saying changed every so slightly also then she changed the story about the car she used, the "friends mother's car", waking the mother up or waiting for the mother to come home to use the car, very different versions of the story.

2. Tiffany NEVER called JC's mom, after about 2hrs she called a friend who called JC's mother, so you have that wrong.

3. Tiffany is a proven liar, and she has the criminal record to prove it.

So, I am not sure as to who is talking BS and what you are considering bullshit? As, these are facts, that we have proven here on Mock, through criminal records, transcripts and Tiffany's own Mock interview.

4. Now, Maytee, well being a mother of 2 adult children in this insane world, I would have been just as worried as Maytee! I have a son who answers the phone no matter what, even if it is only to tell me he is busy and will call back, but if I received a phone call from a friend who received a phone call from somebody else who said my son was suppose to pick them up and they hadn't been able but were repeatedly trying to reach him for over 2 hrs and nothing, you can bet your ass I would be definitely worried, and my son is a straight A student in Grad School, and still I would be on high alert that something was wrong! So, there is nothing cryptic about Maytee's reaction at all! Johnny was barely 22yrs old, to a mother that's a baby out in the world, when you know all the horrible things that could go wrong! Whether she knew about the drugs or not is irrelevant, she may have and so what, or she may have just thought it was a robbery of sorts, or a home invasion and we are not even considering a mother's intuition here!

I think I'm caught up ?

[Lady Cop]

Hi Kat, nice to see you again!

[kitty1]

I'm glad your'e back Kat. We missed you and your good posts. Did u just take a break from all this? I know that some other posters did because there was NO news.

[EastCoastKat]

Wrong! No one seemed to doubt DCTim or Unknown?? Why is everyone doubting me?? Why should I post if I'm not gonna be believed? I didn't intentionally "dangle bait" like someone mentioned. I just decided at the last minute to edit, that's all. I'm in a difficult spot so I think I will just lurk if that is OK with LC and Duchess.

don't be a LURKER....I love your posts!

DITTO!

+ Ditto!

[EastCoastKat]

I'm glad your'e back Kat. We missed you and your good posts. Did u just take a break from all this? I know that some other posters did because there was NO news.

Thanks for asking kitty1!

Went to my daughter's house for awhile, it was my granddaughter's birthday and my daughter's father's side of the family was coming up from NYC and she had lots to do and needed me to take care of my Minime, everyone says she's a dead ringer for Grammie, lol! My daughter was holding the birthday party in a rented hall, you know the whole shebang the Bouncie Bounce thing and Pinata !! Totatlly insane for a 3yr. old as far as I'm concerned, but it's her only child and it's a different generation (I was #4 out of 5, and if I got new birthday candles on my cake I was ecstatic, my family always saved the old birthday candles and reused them ) got back home late last night, after the party and was beat to hell, lol, a 3yr. old can really run an old Grammie ragged, but I wouldn't have it any other way! My first grandchild, lol!

BACK ON TOPIC:
I will definitely keep up on this case until there is nothing to hold on to, I am going to email Lucas County again and keep asking for public updates, and send emails to anybody that will listen. In my heart I know that if this happened to one of my children I would want the public to keep the pressure on LE to not let this case fall by the wayside, to let LE know that we, the public, are interested in Justice for Johnny and Lisa and will stay interested until every possible lead is exhausted! I'm pretty tenacious when I need to be, and I think everyone here on Mock feels the same way about finding Justice for these kids. Glad to be back!