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		All I care about is justice for the crimes committed. Do you think the police/prosecutor will have a word with Maytee about the golden virtue of silence? Are they watching, and if so why are they allowing her to continue if it is jeopardizing this case?
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		they can't gag her until a judge issues a gag order. 
	 
	
	
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 04:37 PM)Nina Wrote:  More cuntiness from Maytee today. I know the Straubs are classy people that are mourning with dignity but if I was Mrs. Straub I would have to lower myself just one time and go bitch slap Maytee...... 
 
Justice for Johnny & Lisa 
I wish you never went there and were left alone unprotected to watch her house GOD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ;,,,((( 
 
.Justice for Johnny & Lisa 
Dear johnny and lisa i know for a fact if you both wouldnt of gone to watch her parents house you would both be alive today ;,,((( im sorry you both went there and endured the most evil heinous sickest worst nightmare of any of our lives.im sorry we are the only ones at all the hearings so far but i promise we will be there for both at every one we love you both and miss you forever 
Id like to place my vote too... 
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		Sorry if this is a stupid question but, is there a way that the Straubs can file a motion with the court to have their trial separate? I know that it's the same case, but I was just curious if there was a way for them to go through this process with Maytee and her clan.
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		the defendant can only be tried once. i know it's 2 separate murders. but the same criminal enterprise. things like this have been bifurcated, but i'd be pretty surprised. severance of a case is usually between guilt and insanity phases.  
 
there is a good chance the Judge won't let any families attend since they are material witnesses. especially the clarkes since they were involved that night. 
	 
	
	
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Ok, thanks. I just feel horrible for the Straubs. As if this situation isn't bad enough on its own, Maytee has to down talk Lisa and her parents. She really is a miserable cunt. 
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 06:01 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:  they can't gag her until a judge issues a gag order.  
What's the soonest this can happen?
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		This is from big John's cousin DC from The Toledo Blade comments. 
Below are his words my question is where was big John for 10 years? 
that is a long time for a father to be gone IMO 
 
"johnny was the man of the house for 10 years her closest friend and firstborn while my cousin was away."
	 
	
	
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		 (09-28-2011, 06:59 PM)Sean69 Wrote:   (09-28-2011, 06:01 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:  they can't gag her until a judge issues a gag order.   
What's the soonest this can happen? 
not soon enough!   
 
whenever this gets assigned to a court and the Judge who will be presiding is known. then that Judge will probably hear motions from the Prosecution to shut maytee the fuck up and not to allow her to sit in trial.   
this may not go to trial for many months.
	 
	
	
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 07:04 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:  this may not go to trial for many months. 
  
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		I would love to see a gag order.  
I bet she gets contempt of court for violating the  
gag order at least once.  
I cant believe she doesnt realize the consequences of  
running her mouth the way she has/is. 
Just because your child was murdered (in the most disgusting 
and diabolical of ways, I might add), it doesnt give you license 
to say whatever you want about who/whomever you want.  
	 
	
	
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		 (09-28-2011, 07:03 PM)NightOwl Wrote:  This is from big John's cousin DC from The Toledo Blade comments. 
Below are his words my question is where was big John for 10 years? 
that is a long time for a father to be gone IMO 
 
"johnny was the man of the house for 10 years her closest friend and firstborn while my cousin was away." 
Owl, i touched on this a bit in post #1317. i don't think he was "away" 10 years however. not sure. 
	 
	
	
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 07:14 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:   (09-28-2011, 07:03 PM)NightOwl Wrote:  This is from big John's cousin DC from The Toledo Blade comments. 
Below are his words my question is where was big John for 10 years? 
that is a long time for a father to be gone IMO 
 
"johnny was the man of the house for 10 years her closest friend and firstborn while my cousin was away."  
Owl, i touched on this a bit in post #1317. i don't think he was "away" 10 years however. not sure.  
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		After reading the posts today about what Maytee has said regarding the Straubs...   No doubt about it, she IS A CUNT.   
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		unless a defendant requests a speedy trial, which is his/her right, this could take a long time. i have seen people await trial in jail for years. intentionally. especially when it could be a death penalty case. time going by is to their benefit. witnesses forget. change their minds. drift away. whatever. i would not count on seeing this anytime soon, especially since more arrests are anticipated. there will be bargaining, psychiatric exams, all kinds of pre-trial strategy. the name of the game for a defense lawyer is delay delay delay.  
 
note: sometimes a speedy trial is to the defendant's benefit, if it is thought that the Prosecution does not have sufficient evidence/witnesses to win in quick order. that is determined through discovery process.
	 
	
	
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 08:38 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:  unless a defendant requests a speedy trial, which is his/her right, this could take a long time. i have seen people await trial in jail for years. intentionally. especially when it could be a death penalty case. time going by is to their benefit. witnesses forget. change their minds. drift away. whatever. i would not count on seeing this anytime soon, especially since more arrests are anticipated. there will be bargaining, psychiatric exams, all kinds of pre-trial strategy. the name of the game for a defense lawyer is delay delay delay.  
 
note: sometimes a speedy trial is to the defendant's benefit, if it is thought that the Prosecution does not have sufficient evidence/witnesses to win in quick order. that is determined through discovery process. 
Will we atleast hear something before then, like a motive or whatever else or do we have to wait until it goes to trial? Honestly, if we have to wait until it goes to trial it might kind of suck because I doubt this case will be on TV and the media only tells a tiny bit of details when they report and I hate that!
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 04:37 PM)Nina Wrote:  More cuntiness from Maytee today. I know the Straubs are classy people that are mourning with dignity but if I was Mrs. Straub I would have to lower myself just one time and go bitch slap Maytee...... 
 
Justice for Johnny & Lisa 
I wish you never went there and were left alone unprotected to watch her house GOD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ;,,,((( 
 
.Justice for Johnny & Lisa 
Dear johnny and lisa i know for a fact if you both wouldnt of gone to watch her parents house you would both be alive today ;,,((( im sorry you both went there and endured the most evil heinous sickest worst nightmare of any of our lives.im sorry we are the only ones at all the hearings so far but i promise we will be there for both at every one we love you both and miss you forever 
	 
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 04:37 PM)Nina Wrote:  .Justice for Johnny & Lisa 
Dear johnny and lisa i know for a fact if you both wouldnt of gone to watch her parents house you would both be alive today ;,,((( im sorry you both went there and endured the most evil heinous sickest worst nightmare of any of our lives.im sorry we are the only ones at all the hearings so far but i promise we will be there for both at every one we love you both and miss you forever[/color] 
Maytee needs to be bitch slapped!  I have, on occasion, expressed hatred for her, but on others I have been empathic and even commented that I would be willing to forgive her. I attributed some of her behavior to grief and/or a mental health disorder.  I was just so elated with the arrest that I was willing to forgive.  But, I have come to my senses again and I know that Maytee, is indeed, just a cold-hearted CUNT!  I almost never use that vulgar word and have reserved it for only one other woman I know.  I despise that other woman and I dream of grabbing the back of her neck and dragging her face across a brick wall.  I despise Maytee.  She is traumatizing the Straubs and her very own family all over again.  How dare she throw Lisa and her family under the bus again!  I hate that fucking CUNT!  She acts as though she gave birth to Lisa.  She refers to Lisa almost as if she belongs to her and only she can honor her memory.  She implies that Lisa's family didn't and still doesn't care about Lisa or her memory.  What's next?  Is she going to set up a gravesite for Lisa?  We don't need a bunch of cheezy, tacky, knick-knackery tchotchkes to remember Lisa!  Our memories keep Lisa present in our hearts and minds..not an acrylic plaque with air-brushed angel wings.  We know Lisa is gone because of Johnny's big fucking mouth.  He lived what he learned and he had a couple of fucked up teachers.   Maytee has herself to thank for that!  She is shitting in her pants about what will come out in court.  I hate that fucking bitch.  She is hurting people that have done nothing to her.  Does she forget there is another hurting family involved?  She is making this worse for everyone.  It just doesn't have to be this way.
	  
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (09-28-2011, 10:03 PM)pplrcrazy Wrote:  Will we atleast hear something before then, like a motive or whatever else or do we have to wait until it goes to trial? Honestly, if we have to wait until it goes to trial it might kind of suck because I doubt this case will be on TV and the media only tells a tiny bit of details when they report and I hate that! 
pplrcrazy, Happy Fall to you also I like your quaint avatar!
 
Toledo needs a damn good news investigator thats what.  People out here are starving for information who is Samuel Todd Williams? Where are his family? does this fellow have a family? we know absolutely nothing about him except his height and weight - we are waiting on a motive and possibly more arrests, in the meantime while we wait a news man should be bringing us information about the bastard that was arrested.  This is  one of the worst crimes ever committed in the state of Ohio and we need first class reporting thats what!
	  
	
	
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		 (09-28-2011, 04:37 PM)Nina Wrote:  .Justice for Johnny & Lisa 
 
Dear johnny and lisa i know for a fact if you both wouldnt of gone to watch her parents house you would both be alive today 
Allow me to translate:
 "If only you, your father and I didn't have criminal records, we could be living together and you wouldn't have had a decent  girlfriend.   
 
And if I wasn't so damned angry with you, Lisa and that dog, I wouldn't be wearing PJ bottoms and blowing wads of cash at the Dollar Store, for tribute decorations. 
 
I blame her for your death."
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