10-16-2011, 11:29 AM
Not according to the Bible they don't.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
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Time for the Rapture. Again.
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10-16-2011, 11:32 AM
It does in mine.
Of course I wrote it in the margin. In crayon. 
10-16-2011, 12:26 PM
(10-16-2011, 10:59 AM)Duchess Wrote: I will have a plethora of them waiting for me at the Rainbow Bridge when I get to heaven.  That POS poetry has to be ranked second, right after Footsteps. You have to love people and animals while they are still alive in case the Rainbow Bridge leads to a pot of gold and OP. If you leave stuff undone and things unsaid, you fucked up. If you try to do them after someone leaves, it is considered stalking. If you do it after they are dead, it is necrophelia. If God came now and took the people, they would be pissed off they didn't get to finish their Fantasy Football season. 
10-16-2011, 04:53 PM
The bible talks about the lion lying down with the lamb. There will be no more death, no more suffering, just peace. It also talks about heavenly creatures. Why wouldn't God have animals in heaven, he created them? Of course they will be there. My animals will be there.
Animals may or may not have souls, it depends on what you define as a soul. Some people say in fact that animals are spiritual. I have a hunch they know more than you do OP. 
10-16-2011, 05:01 PM
When the asteroid hits and everything above sea level dies, Dolphins will become the predominant species. All this will be forgotten.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
10-16-2011, 06:45 PM
(10-16-2011, 05:00 PM)Duchess Wrote:Sorry Duchess, but scripture is taken as a whole not piece mill as we sometimes would like to do. Heaven is a place created for the Saints in Christ, to get their a person must confess with their mouth that Christ is God, and place their faith in him as their savior. all things which animals cannot do. They are creatires which were put here for our enjoyment, they are long suffering just as every other created is under the curse, but they will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams 
10-16-2011, 06:51 PM
cute little chipmunks have souls Maggot, and they are all waiting for you. little chipmunk ghosts. you better bring peanuts.
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10-16-2011, 07:36 PM
Dick, animals have not sinned. I believe there are animals in heaven. God created them, why wouldn't they be there? Does not make sense. What do you think the new heaven and new earth will have on it? Just plants? Or are there no plants either? Just clouds? Come on. God said 'in my house there will be many mansions'. My mansion is going to have heaps of animals running around. That's it. No lama's though.
10-16-2011, 08:06 PM
(10-16-2011, 07:36 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: Dick, animals have not sinned. I believe there are animals in heaven. God created them, why wouldn't they be there? Does not make sense. What do you think the new heaven and new earth will have on it? Just plants? Or are there no plants either? Just clouds? Come on. God said 'in my house there will be many mansions'. My mansion is going to have heaps of animals running around. That's it. No lama's though. Sorry you don't get to make the rules. He also said that you have to confess with your mouth. and confess faith in Jesus Christ as your savior. When your puppy can do that then it can become a son of God. He also said all of creation groans under the curse of sin. He also said let He who is without sin cast the first stone. He also said that by faith are ye saved not of works lest any man should boast.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
10-16-2011, 08:23 PM
You are taking scripture out of context. What about the horsemen of the apocalypse? What about Elijah on his chariots of fire?
Isaiah 11.6 NIV The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. Job 5.23 For you will have a covenant with the stones of the field, and the wild animals will be at peace with you. Isaiah 65.25 The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be the serpent's food. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain," says the LORD Ezekial 34.25 'I will make a covenant of peace with them and rid the land of wild beasts so that they may live in the desert and sleep in the forests in safety. Hosea 2.18 In that day I will make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and the birds of the air and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land, so that all may lie down in safety. I am not a biblical scholar but I do have a personal relationship with God. The person I know is a nice person, a cool dude and of course he would have animals in heaven, separate from the fact that he said he would. I don't care what medievil religions say. I am not a fan of religion or puffed up religious leaders. 
10-16-2011, 08:29 PM
10-16-2011, 08:30 PM
7⁄11 go get a lil drinky .......then come back.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
10-16-2011, 08:33 PM
Aussie, try looking in the New Testament, we don't live under the law anymore.
well I don't anyway, there is no way I could fulfill the law just like no one else ever did. Without grace Im screwed. By the way, you do realise that old testament saits were not given access to heaven? it was not promised to them. Heaven is for the saints who are in Christ after His rapture. The first fruits? I taught second graders so I should be able to teach aussie, first graders are easier aren't they?
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams 
10-16-2011, 08:38 PM
I have faith I will see all my beloved animals that have passed when I (hopefully) get there!! Heaven is supposed to be the ultimate happiness for people that go there. I would not have my ultimate happiness without all the pets I have loved, plus my much-loved relatives who have gone before me!!
Besides, many people who have had NDE's say they see their deceased pets, along with relatives, the tunnel, the bright light, etc.
10-16-2011, 10:09 PM
Dick, I am quoting scripture, you are quoting from the 'Book of Dick'.
The old testament is still valid, I am not quoting law but prophesy that is still unfulfilled. Even in Daniel some of the scriptures matches up with what is in Revelation. Also, when Nebachadnezzar had his disturbing dream, Daniel said to him this relates to the 'end of days' or end times. The four horsemen of the apocalypse are Revelation 6,1-8. Also when Peter had a vision he saw 4 heavenly creatures for food consumption Acts 10.11-15. whats the name of your class 'the blind leading the blind'?
10-16-2011, 10:20 PM
(10-16-2011, 10:09 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: Dick, I am quoting scripture, you are quoting from the 'Book of Dick'. Aussie repeat the gospel to yourself and then tell me that an animal can do the same. Until then I guess you will just have to live with your delusion.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
10-16-2011, 10:25 PM
It's different for them, they didn't sin we did. Men are evil, not animals. Some animals are better than humans.
10-17-2011, 01:54 AM
I'm gonna be all devils advocate and say best tequila wins.
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