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(05-19-2012, 10:36 AM)IMaDick Wrote: So you think that the Federal judge did not block part of that law?
Interesting.
You think that I can't post the same info from several different news sources?
Interesting.
To look at the source and discount the info is ignorant.
Dick, you can post info from any source you desire. My only comment was expressing my distaste for Fox news. My opinion is that particular news source embellishes its facts. I admit to not even much caring about what is in the news, I care about what is happening in my own little world & I could give a flying fuck about what is going on that doesn't have the ability to affect me & my life. I wasn't kidding when I said I am shallow, I simply don't give a fuck but I am entitled to my opinions as much as the next guy.
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(05-19-2012, 10:41 AM)IMaDick Wrote: Maybe you and your little dog will like this one better Duchess.
For the first time in my adult life I am without a dog but if you're referring to a Mocker you should probably take your link & shove it up your tight ass. Thanks!
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HotD was wondering about the loss of free speech, this is the legislation that was designed to begin that process in earnest.
it is all part of the dots that people have so much trouble connecting.
If a Government wants control they always go after the journalists and opinion agencies, Fox news is a target as is anyone who wishes to express any negatives.
The simple fact is this type of legislation does affect you and your world.
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(05-19-2012, 10:54 AM)Duchess Wrote: (05-19-2012, 10:41 AM)IMaDick Wrote: Maybe you and your little dog will like this one better Duchess.
For the first time in my adult life I am without a dog but if you're referring to a Mocker you should probably take your link & shove it up your tight ass. Thanks!
Hmmmm I wonder...
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People don't learn by hearing what they already know or think. Why only ingest news/opinions from the point of view you already have? They say the truth lies somewhere in the middle and you can only find the middle by being aware of the extremes.
I can't imagine going through life expecting to only have things my way and only hearing what I want to hear. It would deprive me of some of the richness of life, good and bad.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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The biggest laugh for me is when Fox News refer to themselves as "fair and balanced"!, how they have got the nerve to say that when every single one of their on screen contributors is a dyed in the wool conservative?
They got some nerve you have to give them that.
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It's a slogan. They don't even pretend to be a liberal news outlet. They love it when they piss the POTUS off enough for him to strike back. And it's a win every time they do it.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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Gotta love the media: http://web.archive.org/web/2004062714270...060403.htm
You know they always tell the truth...
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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(05-19-2012, 10:24 AM)Cracker Wrote: I am still amazed people think one news source is any different than another. Media is media.
JESUS!
That explains A LOT.
Keep looking for those WMDs in Iraq, Cracker. Fox said that they had been found.
You discriminate against people but not amongst news sources.
This just keeps getting better and better.
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I have to wonder what your definition of WMD's is?
I guess you are just stuck on nukes.
To me this is a weapon of mass destruction, and apparently there is no shortage of explosives in Iraq.
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_coo...ed_1678530
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(05-20-2012, 05:02 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have to wonder what your definition of WMD's is?
I guess you are just stuck on nukes.
To me this is a weapon of mass destruction, and apparently there is no shortage of explosives in Iraq.
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_coo...ed_1678530
Nice attempt at revisionist history.
As you will recall, the two reasons given by the Bush administration for the invasion of Iraq were the presence of NUCLEAR and CHEMICAL WMDS and Saddam's support of Al Qaeda.
Both reported by Fox as factual.
Both absolute lies.
We should hang our heads in shame. Both for the harm we have done to Iraq, a nation we illegally invaded, but also (and more particularly) for the majority of citizens in this nation who believed the lies told by their government. Lies that make the Reichstag fire look ingeniously.
P.S. Somehow I doubt very much that you would be sitting around with your thumb up your ass if someone invaded OUR nation ....
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(05-20-2012, 05:36 PM)Disciple Wrote: (05-20-2012, 05:02 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have to wonder what your definition of WMD's is?
I guess you are just stuck on nukes.
To me this is a weapon of mass destruction, and apparently there is no shortage of explosives in Iraq.
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_coo...ed_1678530
Nice attempt at revisionist history.
As you will recall, the two reasons given by the Bush administration for the invasion of Iraq were the presence of NUCLEAR and CHEMICAL WMDS and Saddam's support of Al Qaeda.
Both reported by Fox as factual.
Both absolute lies.
We should hang our heads in shame. Both for the harm we have done to Iraq, a nation we illegally invaded, but also (and more particularly) for the majority of citizens in this nation who believed the lies told by their government. Lies that make the Reichstag fire look ingeniously.
P.S. Somehow I doubt very much that you would be sitting around with your thumb up your ass if someone invaded OUR nation ....
Yeah I voted for the war before I voted against it.
Was it really just this nation? really?
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(05-20-2012, 05:42 PM)IMaDick Wrote: (05-20-2012, 05:36 PM)Disciple Wrote: (05-20-2012, 05:02 PM)IMaDick Wrote: I have to wonder what your definition of WMD's is?
I guess you are just stuck on nukes.
To me this is a weapon of mass destruction, and apparently there is no shortage of explosives in Iraq.
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_coo...ed_1678530
Nice attempt at revisionist history.
As you will recall, the two reasons given by the Bush administration for the invasion of Iraq were the presence of NUCLEAR and CHEMICAL WMDS and Saddam's support of Al Qaeda.
Both reported by Fox as factual.
Both absolute lies.
We should hang our heads in shame. Both for the harm we have done to Iraq, a nation we illegally invaded, but also (and more particularly) for the majority of citizens in this nation who believed the lies told by their government. Lies that make the Reichstag fire look ingeniously.
P.S. Somehow I doubt very much that you would be sitting around with your thumb up your ass if someone invaded OUR nation ....
Yeah I voted for the war before I voted against it.
Was it really just this nation? really?
Nice attempt at misdirection, you slippery devil!
Damned near.
A few small, mostly Eastern European nations, as I recall, joined the US. Certainly not the UN. The biggest exceptions I can think of are Spain (which pulled RIGHT THE FUCK OUT after their terrorist bombing) and Iceland.
Check it out, Dick. Post a list. Be sure to also let us know how many troops we sent and how many were from other nations.
If I'm wrong, I'm sure you'll let us know.
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Here's the list of troop deployments and withdrawls by nation for Iraq from 2003 to 2011 (DOD report). The US and the UK deployed over 90% of the total troops and were the only nations active in Iraq after mid 2009, according to the data.
TOTAL INVASION DEPLOYMENT - IRAQ
NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)
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and we were there why again?
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(05-20-2012, 06:43 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: and we were there why again?
Bush was told 69 times by different investigative sources that there was no evidence of WMD's, his response remained unchanged, "keep looking". One of the people that spoke out about this was that FBI agents husband & that opened a whole other can of worms, with her identity being outed, some would say as pay back. Whatta fuckin' mess.
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ah so we were there under completely false pretexts?
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(05-20-2012, 06:42 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Here's the list of troop deployments and withdrawls by nation for Iraq from 2003 to 2011 (DOD report). The US and the UK deployed over 90% of the total troops and were the only nations active in Iraq after mid 2009, according to the data.
TOTAL INVASION DEPLOYMENT - IRAQ
NATO: A contingent of around 150 advisers under the separate command NATO Training Mission - Iraq-(withdrawn 12/11)
United States: 150,000 invasion 165,000 peak-(withdrawn 12/11)
United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 5/11)
Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)
Thank you, HOTD.
OK, Dick, looking at the forest instead of the trees, do the facts support your position or mine?
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(05-20-2012, 06:43 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: and we were there why again?
If a consistent answer to that question was as available as the numbers, it would be nice, right? It's disturbing that it's not.
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