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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-19-2011, 05:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.


That's not a big bust as far as drug dealing goes BUT it did allow them to get their hands on some people. Smiley_emoticons_fies

I agree. Dang I could make $64,000 in a month if I was willing to travel east, and felt comfortable that no one was going to rat on me. Maybe Maytee is talking, though. I hear that she is snitch. Ooops! I only heard that hear on mock Police

jmoo
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IMO I think if they took that chance of robbing them they might have intended on kiliing them so why wear ski mask. I dont know you could be right. Who knows..
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(02-19-2011, 05:35 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:06 PM)stoof725 Wrote: this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth
These are on the board:
"johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. " Post 3098

"i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. " Post 3111

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Read these post anyway you want, BUT IF YOU THINK THAT THE LAST WORDS OUT OF SOMEONE'S MOUTH ISN'T IMPORTANT...I don't know what to tell ya. All I know is what I thought and still do! Her parents left on Friday this is Sunday night

that's why I'm not sure if he really knew them or not. "bro, wut are you doing?" doesn't tell me much. And if he really said "bro, who are you?", that makes me think even more, he didn't know these people. UNLESS they had ski masks on ..

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(02-19-2011, 05:32 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

WTF!!! a registry ? Is this true or another rumor?

It's just a witty joke people.
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(02-19-2011, 05:34 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.


That's not a big bust as far as drug dealing goes BUT it did allow them to get their hands on some people. Smiley_emoticons_fies

Yeah, my thinking too, considering there were 29 arrests and a single arrest could easily net more than that!

If it is in South Toledo then it is definetly Game On!!!!!
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(02-19-2011, 05:37 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

huh ???

Yeah so the dummkopf "perps" that all signed-in are asking a question of a dead guy. Makes sense to me.

jmoo

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I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION!!!!!THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!
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(02-19-2011, 05:07 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:01 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)heyyou Wrote: this is just a rumor 2 i do kno alot of people who know jc personally and i heard that key that says 544 is for i guess a storage unit that held a large quanity of marijuana and alot of people wanted it i just heard this so i thought i would put it out there but this is just a rumor that i heard

OMG, who friggen rents a 5 x 10 to store marijuana. It is all about moving it. I don't know, I'm from the west coast and it is plentiful here. Easy come, easy go. Is weed harder to get in Toledo? Does Ohio have medical marijuana? Nevermind, I'll google it.

very good point! "it's all about moving it"

Yes....Of Course....Unless that Charles Schwabb investment agent has really impessed you when he said "JC, you gotta start thinking about your future. Open a saving or investment account. We all know he was trying to turn his life around...
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(02-19-2011, 05:43 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: I WAS ANSWERING A QUESTION!!!!!THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!

who are you replying to? use quote button please. Smiley_emoticons_smile


















































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(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:32 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

WTF!!! a registry ? Is this true or another rumor?

It's just a witty joke people.

It's called 'comic relief' and so needed here right now.
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"johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. " Post 3098

"i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. " Post 3111


I'm glad you posted these comments again, EC! ... See, Tiffany says, "AFTER an hour of him not answering or showing up, that's when I drove there" .. so that tells me she DID try to call him back, like she said on the 911 call. I may be WAAAAAY off base, & that's ok, but I honestly believe her answers that were posted here, the other night. IMO, they jibe with the 911 call. I believe her when she says she never said the house was ransacked. I think Maytee said all of that stuff, maybe knowing Johnny was in trouble. JMO
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(02-19-2011, 05:44 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:32 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote: How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

WTF!!! a registry ? Is this true or another rumor?

It's just a witty joke people.

It's called 'comic relief' and so needed here right now.
hahah! cool, I was like :O

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(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:35 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:06 PM)stoof725 Wrote: this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth
These are on the board:
"johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. " Post 3098

"i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. " Post 3111

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Read these post anyway you want, BUT IF YOU THINK THAT THE LAST WORDS OUT OF SOMEONE'S MOUTH ISN'T IMPORTANT...I don't know what to tell ya. All I know is what I thought and still do! Her parents left on Friday this is Sunday night

that's why I'm not sure if he really knew them or not. "bro, wut are you doing?" doesn't tell me much. And if he really said "bro, who are you?", that makes me think even more, he didn't know these people. UNLESS they had ski masks on ..

IMO the word "bro" when talking to someone is used amongst friends not someone being met with an intruder
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The key is to the mainframe of the alarm system that is in a locked box in the basement of the straubs home. It was in the package of security documents that was in the kitchen just IMO.
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(02-19-2011, 05:32 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

WTF!!! a registry ? Is this true or another rumor?


Smiley_emoticons_shockedSmiley_emoticons_shockedSmiley_emoticons_shocked
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(02-19-2011, 05:22 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:10 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:07 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:03 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:59 PM)Jane Wrote: But Tiffany has not been named a suspect.
IMO how could she not be a suspect... Think about it .... her story doesnt make sense. I will rephrase her as a "person of interest"
This seems so much bigger than Tiffany.

Was there a recent big drug bust in the area?

I agree. Seems way out of her league, IMO

I don't even know how this changes things.... A SOCIOPATH DID THIS.....and I have been saying that from the begining! I thought TW was over her head with whatever her involvement is, that she didn't know something like this was going to happen because when you play with psychos and sociopaths this is what happens, not just a plain old robbery, they are SADISTS! This doesn't change anything for my way of thinking, as I thought there would be more to this, the rape for sure! Look at the manner of death, this information changes nothing for me, except makes me mad as hell!!

Who better to have as your "Enforcer" than a malevolent sociopathic saddist who loves their work. its a perfect fit
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(02-19-2011, 05:46 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:35 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:06 PM)stoof725 Wrote: this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth
These are on the board:
"johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. " Post 3098

"i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. " Post 3111

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Read these post anyway you want, BUT IF YOU THINK THAT THE LAST WORDS OUT OF SOMEONE'S MOUTH ISN'T IMPORTANT...I don't know what to tell ya. All I know is what I thought and still do! Her parents left on Friday this is Sunday night

that's why I'm not sure if he really knew them or not. "bro, wut are you doing?" doesn't tell me much. And if he really said "bro, who are you?", that makes me think even more, he didn't know these people. UNLESS they had ski masks on ..

IMO the word "bro" when talking to someone is used amongst friends not someone being met with an intruder

"bro" is like "dude" IMO

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(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Unknown Wrote: The key is to the mainframe of the alarm system that is in a locked box in the basement of the straubs home. It was in the package of security documents that was in the kitchen just IMO.

Thank You Unknown!!
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(02-19-2011, 05:49 PM)Unknown Wrote: The key is to the mainframe of the alarm system that is in a locked box in the basement of the straubs home. It was in the package of security documents that was in the kitchen just IMO.

hmmm, the word "basement" again..

edited to add - Maytee said, on the 911 call, the bodies were in the basement..

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:B
(02-19-2011, 05:44 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:40 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:32 PM)concerned Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote: How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

WTF!!! a registry ? Is this true or another rumor?

It's just a witty joke people.

It's called 'comic relief' and so needed here right now.

I get it.... :B
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