Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[ToledoNative]

RIP, maytee:

RIP Johnny Listen you evil demons that took my johnny n lisa from us...you want to dance with the devil i will make sure the ugliest of demons devour n feast on all your very existance n yours aahhh i cnt wait to hear n see the worst n most painfull of deaths on all of you remember " a witches curse" in full effect

The last time ugly demons feasted on me, it left me drained. I was too tired to even waltz with them.

[pspence]

Some guy wrote on the Justice for Johnny FB page...

It was on Mock. Somebody named BC (was arrested) I dont want to start rumors, but I heard that. Hope you're well.
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Wat was the names of people arrested??
17 minutes ago

I would think if the arrests were related to the crime - Maytee would have been informed by the LE as a courtesy, wouldn't she have?

I found it interesting the article said it was a professional hit because of something the victims did...not something JC did but the "victims"...ummm

[Jane]

I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks

Page 2, post 17 is where he starts, I believe

[Jane]

Very true Jane.
I've been reading Pink's old posts- interesting indeed. He/She was around from 2/3-2/7 & said quite a bit in that short time.

Same here, LOL .... & you're right!! He (don't know why, but I think Pink's a 'he') even stated if his theory is right, the perps are two white males, age 35-40 ... & they're probably from Chicago, Detroit, or possibly New York .... just very interesting, indeed, now looking back on all his posts, hmmm

[imsuchawildflower]

below is one of Pink's comments -

This was a pro saying loud and clear, "Johnny fucked me. This is what I do to to people who fuck me. This is what I do to the loved ones of the people who fuck me. Don't fuck me."

-pink

I remember when I read that, I got chills up my back.
I wonder if it was one of the players or someone close to them...
pretending to be a step away from the middle of it.

[kitty1]

I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks

Go to the navigation bar located at the top of every page and click on 'Members List' from there you can search by user name where it's lists the threads and posts that member has made.
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Thanks! I figured it out thanks to someone's PM!

[Miss Conspiracy]

"It wasn't random. It wasn't a robbery. It was professional," Lucas County Sheriff's Sergeant Jame Schiavone said.

Sgt. Schiavone said he believes the drug-related crime was a professional "hit," instigated by actions of the victims.

Reward money is being offered to help solve the crime.

The Lucas County sheriff's office is offering a $5000 reward for information for the arrest and conviction of those responsible for the murders.

some quotes that really caught my eye. So this was as a result of something "instigated by the actions of the victims." Wow! This makes me think it's more of a Johnny thing. I still think Lisa is an innocent bystander.. well maybe not completely innocent, she knew of Johnny's rep and what he was doing and probably did nothing to stop it. But I don't think anything was her fault.

I don't think when they say this was "professional" that they mean an actual professional hitman. I think it's more of, this was done by career criminals (so, not necessarily a professional hitman that can do a clean hit, but rather.. a criminal).

It's kind of weird to me, it doesn't sound like LE still really knows who all is involved. They are still offering a reward so I think they still need help in solving this. I don't think they know all the players. But how can they think they are not around any more too? I'm not too confident in what they have right now. Sounds like still speculation.

Also how can they say it's not a robbery, when the place was ransacked. This has confused me even more lol

[Miss Conspiracy]

oh and I really hope that snotty pink was not right.. LOL

[imsuchawildflower]

thanks for posting something that wasn't from facebook!!
i take issue with this from article:

"It wasn't random. It wasn't a robbery. It was professional," Lucas County Sheriff's Sergeant Jame Schiavone said.

The sergeant gave an update on the murder investigation to the Springfiled Township Trustees as part of his monthly sheriff's report at the February 22 meeting.

that was Feb 22. this is March 1. they may have changed their thinking by now. maybe.

no i don't believe it was random. but i also don't believe it was "professional". pros don't kill with plastic bags. they execute with head shots and leave.
they don't leave a mess and DNA behind.

"Sgt. Schiavone said he believes the drug-related crime was a professional "hit," instigated by actions of the victims."

I agree, this has me thinking that JC/LS must have fucked with somebody's money/drugs who's pretty established on the southside, that's exactly what I thought to begin with, that JC was on somebody else turf trying to do business, or somebody fronted him a big amount of drugs to sell and he fucked up, maybe blew the money!! So, no more speculation about drugs thats' for sure, and he literally said it wasn't a robbery!! Sorry, but I just can't see a professional running over there with duct tape and plastic bags in hand, that sounds more like a couple of chump punks, who may have been paid to do it, and maybe that's why the Sheriff is calling it professional because they were paid to kill them? JC should have stayed away from that southside, established drug pins do not like people trying to horn in on their business or don't like people who they front drugs to not to come through with the money for the drugs they were fronted, so they must have provoked some serious players! Whoever went there was probably looking for the drugs he was fronted (or his own drugs) or the money, and hey why not check the rest of the place too!

UMMMM, Wasn't there a change jar missing w/like $40 in it? Why in the hell would a "professional" take a change jar. I think good ole' SGT. meant to say "personal."

IMO....JC and LS used it...and were gonna put it back....

[DivineDragon]

if drug-dealing,low-rent local hoodrat gangsta wannabes are "pro" hit men, i'm tinkerbell.

So maybe (like somebody just said) the term "pro" is used to mean someone who is paid to do the crime.

Agree that the sarge took some liberties with the word "professional". It is however a pretty definitive statement on his part. Lends support to the theory that LE has this thing pretty much figured out and are just waiting on the details to close it out.

[Spalding]

if drug-dealing, low-rent local hoodrat gangsta wannabes are "pro" hit men, i'm tinkerbell.

If engaging in a double torture-murder doesn't remove the "wannabe" from one's description, what does?

Also, they may mean "professional" in the sense that it was done to send a message to others, like a "Columbian necktie" would. It was definitely not surgical, but I get the sense that if someone is capable of killing in this manner, they could easily have killed before. This method required a strong stomach, a lot of balls, and a certain degree of strength and confidence. In that sense, it could be construed as "professional."

[ZEROSPHERES]

some quotes that really caught my eye. So this was as a result of something "instigated by the actions of the victims." Wow! This makes me think it's more of a Johnny thing. I still think Lisa is an innocent bystander.. well maybe not completely innocent, she knew of Johnny's rep and what he was doing and probably did nothing to stop it. But I don't think anything was her fault.

The instigation could have been a rebuff of her previous bf who didn't take it well and LS and JC may have become more harsh and dismissive as time passed; of course until they passed.

[truth be told]

John Sr. was busted for pot (a lot of it!)...served nearly 5 years. Maytee should have been sitting in a cell herself because she was really the kingpin. Finding info about John Sr. is a bit tricky because of the fact that he was sentenced to a Federal prison. Federal prisons are harder to get info. on prisoners.

[blueyes]

I don't think Cabrini Green is there anymore??
Ahhhh, I even miss Cabrini Green!

its not. its gone.


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But you guys get my point these losers wouldn't survive a day there when it was! Hell they needed national guard there to film candy man! They are posers!

[ZEROSPHERES]

if drug-dealing,low-rent local hoodrat gangsta wannabes are "pro" hit men, i'm tinkerbell.

So maybe (like somebody just said) the term "pro" is used to mean someone who is paid to do the crime.

Agree that the sarge took some liberties with the word "processional". It is however a pretty definitive statement on his part. Lends support to the theory that LE has this thing pretty much figured out and are just waiting on the details to close it out.

seems that you're the one taking "liberties" with that "word"

What is a "processional hit"? Do you have information none of us has?

From google
"The Wedding Processional
The Order of Who Walks When During a Wedding Processional
.........."
maybe it wasn't a robbery but just a wedding ceremony gone bad.

[ToledoNative]

I don't think Cabrini Green is there anymore??
Ahhhh, I even miss Cabrini Green!

its not. its gone.

But you guys get my point these losers wouldn't survive a day there when it was! Hell they needed national guard there to film candy man! They are posers!
[/quote]


Yes! You would never see REAL Bloods hanging out with Crips. Only in Toledo, LOL!

[ZEROSPHERES]

John Sr. was busted for pot (a lot of it!)...served nearly 5 years. Maytee should have been sitting in a cell herself because she was really the kingpin. Finding info about John Sr. is a bit tricky because of the fact that he was sentenced to a Federal prison. Federal prisons are harder to get info. on prisoners.

So might you be implying that he was in with some really tough guys? And might I infere that if someone who is in with some really big criminals gets a reduced sentence he may look suspect. And the consequences for that could be severe?

[DivineDragon]

Processional? I don't see any processional

[DivineDragon]

John Sr. was busted for pot (a lot of it!)...served nearly 5 years. Maytee should have been sitting in a cell herself because she was really the kingpin. Finding info about John Sr. is a bit tricky because of the fact that he was sentenced to a Federal prison. Federal prisons are harder to get info. on prisoners.

So might you be implying that he was in with some really tough guys? And might I infere that if someone who is in with some really big criminals gets a reduced sentence he may look suspect. And the consequences for that could be severe?

Infere?

[curious]

Too bad we don't have any info from toxicology reports...thinking JC might have drugged in order to subdue him, possibly at his buddies house prior to picking up LS.