(08-18-2012, 08:52 AM)shell52486 Wrote: Cameo has stepped up as much as I will allow. He loves his children unconditionally but I can't let him take my kids alone with the Clarke's acting crazy. Not sure if they are all talk or not but I'm not going to risk it. He does help support them if I tell him we need something he gives it.

Since I don't believe he works at a real job, how is he able to support you and your children? Where does he get the money?

(08-21-2012, 09:45 PM)NightOwl Wrote: FEDERAL GRAND JURY INDICTS 2 ON DRUG COUNTS
Blade, The (Toledo, OH) - Friday, July 3, 1998
Author: BLADE
Two Toledo men were indicted by a federal grand jury on drug charges after drug enforcment agents recovered about 500 pounds of marijuana, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Toledo reported.

John P . Clarke , 28, of 944 Colburn St., and Shimone D. Maxwell, 23, of 1918 North Superior St., were charged with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute.

If convicted, the men could face 5 to 40 years in prison or up to $2 million in fines or both.

This is Big John with the Federal charges. Does anyone know if Shimone Maxwell aka "Smooth" is dead or alive? they did a death verification research on Shimon Maxwell on Discovery.

500lbs of hash? that a lot...Even by UK sentencing (which is not as harsh as the sentencing in the USA) big John would still have been looking at a lengthy sentence for that!

Do we know how long he actually served on those charges?

(08-21-2012, 11:13 PM)YourOtherLeft Wrote: Maxwell is in Federal prison in Minersville, PA currently with release date of 9/15/2014 for participation in child trafficking/ prostitution ring and money laundering...

Hmmmm. They associate with some real choice people don't they? Then Maytee had the nerve to suggest that the murders had to be down to someone Lisa knew.

YourOtherLeft, did you see my post 224458? do you have any idea who Johnny was texting & who was Lisa texting they both seemed upset with some guy, was a name mentioned in Court?

Any idea who Ruelas-Cruz & Javier-Diaz are? Ruelas-Cruz is a last name and Javier is a first name were they mentioned in Court?

I appreciate you being able to grasp most of their names or initials above what a job! I did not see Mike or Vic Dominguez Johnny's friends names and they were with him that night earlier on.

Interesting that good old Billy Joe Cutcher was tested.

An email I received yesterday from the VINE (Victim Information and Notification Everyday) Service, which is set up to allow the public to track incarcerated individuals:

8/22/2012

This e-mail is to inform you that TIFFANY WILLIAMS has been transferred from Lucas Co. Jail to another agency. The transfer took place on 8/22/2012. As a result, you will no longer receive notifications concerning this offender under your current registration with VINE.

For more information, contact the former holding facility by calling (419)213-4960.

This notification is sponsored by the Ohio State VINE Service. It is our hope that this information has been helpful to you.

Thank you,

The VINE Service

(08-23-2012, 02:03 PM)Love Hippos Wrote: An email I received yesterday from the VINE (Victim Information and Notification Everyday) Service, which is set up to allow the public to track incarcerated individuals:

8/22/2012

This e-mail is to inform you that TIFFANY WILLIAMS has been transferred from Lucas Co. Jail to another agency. The transfer took place on 8/22/2012. As a result, you will no longer receive notifications concerning this offender under your current registration with VINE.

For more information, contact the former holding facility by calling (419)213-4960.

This notification is sponsored by the Ohio State VINE Service. It is our hope that this information has been helpful to you.

Thank you,

The VINE Service

This is Tiffany Yvonne Williams a black woman they shipped her over to CCNO temporarily I believe until her hearing end of August - she failed to pay $41.00 bill owed to Yellow Cab Company after services were provided.

The VINE Service you mentioned above is very interesting & thanks!
I wonder if Samuel Williams has been shipped out of Toledo?

I saw the booking report on Tiffany Williams. She is not our Tiffany. This caused some confusion for us Mockers from the very beginning. The Tiffany that was recently jailed is a black woman who looked demented (IMO). I think this one has been institutionalized in the past.

I got a phone call in the middle of posting. Sorry for sort of double posting.

OlderThanDirt, do you recall the Cuban Cartel Bust back in the 1980's front page story in the Toledo Blade?

A snippet below about Maytee:-


MORE THAN 70 PLEDGE TO ASSUME RIGHTS, OBLIGATIONS OF CITIZENSHIP
Blade, The (Toledo, OH) - Saturday, June 27, 1998
Author: MIKE SIGOV BLADE STAFF WRITER
For several minutes yesterday, U.S. District Judge David Katz became emotional.

Noting that the Fourth of July was just a few days away, he congratulated a large group of newly naturalized U.S. citizens.

``It's a privilege and a great emotional high for me to be among the first to address you as fellow citizens,'' said the judge, who was presiding at the 40-minute naturalization ceremony at the Owen-Illinois world headquarters yesterday.

``You will now be able to participate fully in all of the rights, privileges, and perform all the obligations that cometh upon you as citizens of these United States of America.''

Maytee Carmen Vazquez-Clarke , formerly of Cuba

(08-20-2012, 04:57 PM)Sphincter Cop Wrote: I'd put more faith in the defense, prosecutors, or detectives answering these questions pertaining to this case. Rather than these so called friends, lovers, and baby mamas.

Has any news outlet in Toledo contacted Detective Kozak for an interview after the outcome of this case?

I've been waiting patiently hoping the Toledo Blade would interview the Detective again. Hopefully someone will read this post in the news media!

We need action!

(08-22-2012, 09:30 PM)NightOwl Wrote: YourOtherLeft, did you see my post 224458? do you have any idea who Johnny was texting & who was Lisa texting they both seemed upset with some guy, was a name mentioned in Court?

Any idea who Ruelas-Cruz & Javier-Diaz are? Ruelas-Cruz is a last name and Javier is a first name were they mentioned in Court?

I appreciate you being able to grasp most of their names or initials above what a job! I did not see Mike or Vic Dominguez Johnny's friends names and they were with him that night earlier on.

Interesting that good old Billy Joe Cutcher was tested.

Nightowl, my notes on the text messages aren't very good, it was hard to follow, and the language was pretty bad - they handed Det K the transcript and he read straight through without indicating who sent what, so sorry if this isn't too helpful, these are not word for word, just as much as I could get down on paper as he read ..
Text transcript from JC phone records was defense exhibit L...
You stupid a** mf-er told Lisa I slept with that chick.
N**** you dumb.....lucky I don't tell Lisa wtf you did

Then the defense atty asked Det who sent that to Johnny and Det said he forgot. Defense said he told johnny they were enemies, can you tell me his name. Det said he didn't know his name.

Then he read text messages between Lisa and a Sarah from ¹⁄₃₀ at 1:09 am.
Damn, man just got the message. I know it's scary Sarah not knowing what other person is doing when you think they'd never hurt you.
I know its nuts I just want to beat his f-ing ass.

Then there was an objection which was overruled. And then Det continued reading...

I would too if I was you.
Have you talked to him at all?
Just been texting mean...told him I was gonna see someone.

Asked if DNA sample from texts, Det said "I don't believe so"

On re-direct, prosecutor said can you tell who is texting who. Det said no. Then said All the boyfriend/girlfriend stuff was thoroughly investigated? And Det said yes.

They never said the names from the texts.

As for the names you mentioned, they weren't discussed the day I was there. I'll look through everything I have when I get a chance and see if I have anything on them.

When they asked the Det. who Cutcher was he couldn't really remember, I knew he was and figured a lot of mockers would have remembered him too.

I noticed today(Thurs.) that for about five hours the reward money that Maytee is offering went up to $85,0000. Then went back to $75,000. She must have had second thoughts.

OlderThanDirt, do you recall the Cuban Cartel Bust back in the 1980's front page story in the Toledo Blade?
I DON'T REMEMBER IF I ATE TODAY!!!!!!!!!

(08-24-2012, 01:02 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: OlderThanDirt, do you recall the Cuban Cartel Bust back in the 1980's front page story in the Toledo Blade?
I DON'T REMEMBER IF I ATE TODAY!!!!!!!!!

At least you remembered to answer me.....

(08-23-2012, 04:02 PM)NightOwl Wrote: I've been waiting patiently hoping the Toledo Blade would interview the Detective again. Hopefully someone will read this post in the news media!

We need action!

I know a Mocker who knows a lot of Toledo media. I'll ask him if he has talked to anyone about this. I don't believe he's been on here in the last week so.

(08-24-2012, 01:18 AM)MikeyA Wrote:

(08-23-2012, 04:02 PM)NightOwl Wrote: I've been waiting patiently hoping the Toledo Blade would interview the Detective again. Hopefully someone will read this post in the news media!

We need action!

I know a Mocker who knows a lot of Toledo media. I'll ask him if he has talked to anyone about this. I don't believe he's been on here in the last week so.

Very cool!

(08-15-2012, 09:15 AM)MikeyA Wrote:

(08-15-2012, 07:53 AM)greenfrog1437 Wrote: Actually maybe u should of asked if Sam said ever into trouble or the street when we were married and my answer would of been no he was not. ..he was a stay at home dad and as far as me sticking around him no as it was stated before I had left the whole situation before it got worse than it was so I did take my son out the picture of bring around the violence but I try my daamn hardest to show my son the right way in life and respect. ...so in my eyes I do a damn great job as being a mother to him

Well I can't ask Sam, he is in jail, and I've found people don't just suddenly become murderers one day, it's generally a process and although you're probably in denial he was on that path already when you were married. You are entitled to your opinion though.

My guess is him being a stay at home Dad was probably a clue. He was a grown ass man of working age yet he allowed his wife to provide for his family. I've seen the transcripts. Sam bought into the machismo way of life, I know this because he was a pimp. What grown ass man like that allows his wife to provide for his family?

Now if you're a college educated executive and him an artist I'd support the decision but I'm guessing from what I know about him and what I know about the area I'd put money it was a decision that was forced upon the two of you because of a lack of education, work ethic, or both.

In your eyes you maybe do a damn *good job but as a taxpayer and citizen I could give a damn about your opinion. Your son is now the son of a convicted murderer and pimp. Most likely I have paid for him and will pay for him. If not I applaud you I'm just going by the statistics. According to which, he will be lucky to graduate high school, he will most likely become a drug user, he will most likely become a convicted felon as well. Again just using the law of probabilities. So if you choose to stay in the Toledo area I think you are supporting those probabilities.

Again I'm sorry if you think I'm being mean. I don't intend to. I see your son as another victim of this crime because he's not a victim of his own choices. You and Sam are victims of your own choices. Because neither of you seemed like you have a job that could will have you retiring in Ottawa Hills, or even Monclova for that matter, then those choices are almost always the wrong ones.

sorry took so long to reply but just was able to get to a computer to type this all out...but the agreement between me and him if u must know was he try to find employment but with him not having a diploma at that time it was a problem....and yes i did work two jobs to make ends meet but thats one thing i was raised not to depend on a man even if we was together as one because you never know when all of a sudden that man who you became depending on may not be there tomorrow and as it was when we seperated i still took care of my responsiblity as i did from day 1.....so anyone can have their own opinions about it but to me i was self independent as my mom had taught me to be....and i knew when i was at work making money my son was well taken care of.....and as for your opinions about what my son may have in his future is a waste of your typing skills because i know and as u have read from people who has been in my son present he is very respectful and kind and sociable and as far as u being a tax payer I am a tax payer also and i was taught not to take the easy way of life so no u will not be supporting my son .....and weather i still reside in toledo or not their is crime and drugs and drug dealers and actually wanna be pimps everywhere but if you are not aware of the things that go on around you then u may not know or maybe not even wanna know but trust and believe their is bad things and bad people everywhere so no i am not residing no where else the episode that happen with my sons father is unfortunate but the only thing it affected was the relationship my son had with his father and my son not knowing what the real situation is ....but you can bet ur last penny i will make sure me and my son get through the rainy days together and i will always be by his side![/color]

(08-23-2012, 11:07 PM)YourOtherLeft Wrote: Nightowl, my notes on the text messages aren't very good, it was hard to follow, and the language was pretty bad -

"they handed Det K the transcript and he read straight through without indicating who sent what, so sorry if this isn't too helpful, these are not word for word, just as much as I could get down on paper as he read ..
Text transcript from JC phone records was defense exhibit L...
You stupid a** mf-er told Lisa I slept with that chick.
N**** you dumb.....lucky I don't tell Lisa wtf you did" -YourOtherLeft, I understand! you would need to be proficient at shorthand to get all the details. It's very interesting to learn the Defense had the Detective read the transcript, you can see why with the vile language. How do you interpret some guy is jealous so wants to ruin their relationship?

"Then the defense atty asked Det who sent that to Johnny and Det said he forgot. Defense said he told johnny they were enemies, can you tell me his name. Det said he didn't know his name." - I think these questions were to agitate the Detective because all these people were thoroughly investigated, that was stated later on. The Defense naturally wants their client off the hook.

"Then he read text messages between Lisa and a Sarah from 1⁄30 at 1:09 am.
Damn, man just got the message. I know it's scary Sarah not knowing what other person is doing when you think they'd never hurt you.
I know its nuts I just want to beat his f-ing ass.

Then there was an objection which was overruled. And then Det continued reading...

I would too if I was you.
Have you talked to him at all?
Just been texting mean...told him I was gonna see someone." - There are a couple of Sarahs' Sarah H and Sarah M
Sarah H has a family with a fellow Ronnie G I'm ruling out that Sarah and ruling in Sarah M since she is single, it's single girl chit chat IMO and Patrick Guercio has a Mugshotonline for aggravated burglary could be they were texting about him, he has moved to Florida, he has records on Sylvania Court along with his sister and others. I think it's funny what Lisa said & it's another angry Bad boy deal, I think anger management is needed in the whole family! reading those court records is telling.

Well, I knew this was coming. Sarah M is my granddaughter! She is totally shattered about what happen to her friend from birth!!!!! She is a college graduate waiting to begin law school!! She has been through a lot because of this. Just wanted you to know.

(08-19-2012, 10:33 PM)shell52486 Wrote: The facts are there is no evidence saying he killed them. He passed a polygraph test I'm sure they asked him if he was there if he knew them so on. What facts do you know about cameo on a personal level and about this case. Please share your facts since I seem not to know the person I was with for 8 yrs.

You want facts, yet you just answered "I'm sure they asked him if he was there if he knew them so on. "
Please dont demand facts, and yet prove your point with less than
what standard you have set for us. Thanks.

(08-24-2012, 05:42 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Well, I knew this was coming. Sarah M is my granddaughter! She is totally shattered about what happen to her friend from birth!!!!! She is a college graduate waiting to begin law school!! She has been through a lot because of this. Just wanted you to know.

Your granddaughter is a lovely girl, I saw her interviewed on T.V. right after the murders' my gosh yes it would be a life shattering event! I wish we could find the rest of them OlderThanDirt and be done with it, it has to be bad enough being haunted by the event and worse yet some of the bastards are still out there. I don't read too much into this boyfriend girlfriend stuff, Lisa was going to kick his ass so she seemed to be sticking up for Sarah. I also don't believe the fellow Johnny was texting is the killer.

I wish your lovely granddaughter all the best for the future!