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(11-04-2024, 08:19 PM)rothschild Wrote: (11-04-2024, 07:43 PM)username Wrote: (11-04-2024, 06:21 PM)rothschild Wrote: (11-04-2024, 05:35 PM)username Wrote: (11-04-2024, 05:25 PM)rothschild Wrote: What is the principle that legitimized Ukrainian independence, bearing in mind that it had never been a sovereign state?
Pull up the oldest world map u can find. Is that what ur looking for? Many countries didn’t exist (or exist as they are today) until they did. The U.S. included. Ya’ want everyone to just give back the land and sovereignty they’ve fought and died for over the last centuries? What’s ur point?
I'll simplify it: what is the principle that legitimizes independence?
Shut up. If you want to make a point, spit it out. I don’t have time, interest or inclination to answer ur stupid questions. This isn’t RC’s quiz show FFS.
If you can't answer a simple question that's fundamental to independence, what males you think you're capable of forming an educated opinion with respect to who violated Ukraine's sovereignty?
Why do you think I have any interest in answering your questions? As I said, spit out your opinions and I might or might not respond. Ur not a fucking teacher here and last time I checked I didn’t sign up for quizzes on Mock. It’s pretty fucking simple anyway. Of course Russia violated Ukraine’s sovereignty when they launched their invasion. Whether or not u think Ukraine deserved independence in the first place isn’t terribly relevant to me in this moment. So if u want to extrapolate on why u think they didn’t, by all means, post it up.
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(11-04-2024, 08:42 PM)username Wrote: (11-04-2024, 08:19 PM)rothschild Wrote: (11-04-2024, 07:43 PM)username Wrote: (11-04-2024, 06:21 PM)rothschild Wrote: (11-04-2024, 05:35 PM)username Wrote: Pull up the oldest world map u can find. Is that what ur looking for? Many countries didn’t exist (or exist as they are today) until they did. The U.S. included. Ya’ want everyone to just give back the land and sovereignty they’ve fought and died for over the last centuries? What’s ur point?
I'll simplify it: what is the principle that legitimizes independence?
Shut up. If you want to make a point, spit it out. I don’t have time, interest or inclination to answer ur stupid questions. This isn’t RC’s quiz show FFS.
If you can't answer a simple question that's fundamental to independence, what males you think you're capable of forming an educated opinion with respect to who violated Ukraine's sovereignty?
Why do you think I have any interest in answering your questions? As I said, spit out your opinions and I might or might not respond. Ur not a fucking teacher here and last time I checked I didn’t sign up for quizzes on Mock. It’s pretty fucking simple anyway. Of course Russia violated Ukraine’s sovereignty when they launched their invasion. Whether or not u think Ukraine deserved independence in the first place isn’t terribly relevant to me in this moment. So if u want to extrapolate on why u think they didn’t, by all means, post it up.
Have you never heard of self-determination?
Ukraine gained independence in 1991. It had self-determination until the coup in 2014, at which point it became a puppet state having no sovereignty. The new government was dependent on foreign economic and military support.
Euromaidan was the result of billions of US dollars that were invested in Ukraine since about 2004 for the purpose of bringing about a "color revolution". There were appr. 50 Western NGO's in Ukraine during the Euromaidan uprising. It was not the byproduct of self-determination, it was the result of foreign subversion of Ukraine's sovereignty. The conversation between Nuland and Pyatt Makes perfectly clear where Washington stands with respect to democracy, no ifs, ands or buts. This sorry chapter is indicative of Machiavellian ideals, not democratic ideals. It's indicative of a nation that's as morally contemptable as any other superpower.
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Just give up, User. You can't logically explain or justify the US committing billions of dollars to Ukraine.
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into Robust "Political Sides", for at least a Century!
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Sally are you really going to vote for that paedophile rapist? It's been wall to wall coverage here in Australia. They have been analyzing everything.
Regarding the Ukranian thing, they did talk about that and said that the Ukraine support is justified because it was a land grab by Russia. You can't have a country like that just invading a country like Ukraine, they said he is after European dominance. So Poland is next. No they had to stop him and unfortunately Ukraine is in the middle. Look at what he has done to Navalny. What about sending those agents over the the UK and poisoning people. No this kind of Trump supporting outrageousness has to stop. Too many people are getting murdered. It's really horrible.
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The court documents have dropped and are out there. He raped a 13 year old girl repeatedly with Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not making this up. I would never do that. It's a horrible reality but it's the truth.
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I voted. My state has early voting but I like doing it on actual Election Day. I'm feeling super excited & very positive.
I very much appreciate some of the media showing trump's rallies the past few days. I think it was important for the still undecided to see that unhinged bullshit. I couldn't possibly know this, but I feel like trump and his team have known for days he was going to lose. Each day has been crazier than the day before.
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(11-05-2024, 08:13 AM)aussiefriend Wrote: Sally are you really going to vote for that paedophile rapist? It's been wall to wall coverage here in Australia. They have been analyzing everything.
Regarding the Ukranian thing, they did talk about that and said that the Ukraine support is justified because it was a land grab by Russia. You can't have a country like that just invading a country like Ukraine, they said he is after European dominance. So Poland is next. No they had to stop him and unfortunately Ukraine is in the middle. Look at what he has done to Navalny. What about sending those agents over the the UK and poisoning people. No this kind of Trump supporting outrageousness has to stop. Too many people are getting murdered. It's really horrible. It's ok. I voted like 10 times Harris. Shhhhhh!
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Ms D
How was your voting place, crowded?
We voted by mail 10-14-24. It was easy.
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(11-05-2024, 04:45 AM)BigMark Wrote:
I saw that on instagram and the post from a woman was something like “if Trump noticed me in a crowd”. A lot of the comments were also from women swooning and saying how good looking he is. ?
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(11-05-2024, 11:26 AM)Carsman Wrote: Ms D
How was your voting place, crowded?
We voted by mail 10-14-24. It was easy.
Not crowded at all. There has already been several days of early voting. I left and was back home within a half hour. One can vote by mail here, but there is criteria for that, not just anyone can do so.
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(11-05-2024, 12:11 PM)username Wrote: A lot of the comments were also from women swooning and saying how good looking he is. ?
Ewwww. Barf.
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(11-05-2024, 12:56 PM)rothschild Wrote: Is it over yet?
I'll let you know when it's safe to come out.
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(11-04-2024, 09:37 AM)Duchess Wrote: I'm not the only person who has put policy aside this election cycle. There are millions of people just like me who are voting to keep trump's grubby little paws off the presidency and a good number of those people are republicans, traditional republicans, not maga. There is a difference.
They counted on that, that's why your only alternative was a senile old man and now an unqualified twit who can't even answer a question while made out to be a strong black woman. They are/ were presidential candidates for stupid people.
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