Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Freshbait78]

Has this really gotten to this?
Its ridiculous.
Im pretty sure NO ONE in their right mind would be
thinking about pussy when they think their childs life or
well being are at stake.
Good Lord.
Thats about as far reaching as it gets. No wonder Maytee gets
so pissed.

You just summed up my whole point

[Jane]

As in, all local stores are saying they haven't sold duct tape in X amount of months? Maybe LE needs to ask, "Has anyone stolen duct tape from your store?"

I'm not getting this either. No one bought any duct tape, what so ever, anytime around the murders? Not that it really means anything, they could have taken it from their own home. I just find it hard to believe but maybe that's because about a week ago I bought 10 rolls of the shit

I'm guessing the type of duct tape used, wasn't sold around the time of the murders ?? Maybe Kitty can go into a bit more detail of what she meant?

[Jane]

I still say MAYBE Lisa was arrested, as a juvenile, for some weed, or paraphernalia. If that's the case, no one will find those records. From what I understand, juvenile records are not open to the public.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Damn, anal beads would explain SO much! J/K, and I agree, it is just so damn frustrating the lack of clear explanations in this case. This reminds me of "interband pants"

yes, I agree about the "interband pants"

I agree Jane...Just What are Interband Pants? I was imagining the Wicked Witch of the West when I heard the term

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[Jane]

I agree Jane...Just What are Interband Pants? I was imagining the Wicked Witch of the West when I heard the term

LOL, I've read several thoughts on these pants, & most say it was a brand name "Interband" ??? I have no idea, but it's stuff like that, that bugs me, lol ... just like no real info on what kind of beads were supposedly placed on the angel, at JC's grave.

[ZEROSPHERES]

If she treated all the hocus pocus stuff like a religion I would probably be swayed from making snarky remarks. I know Godly people & they would never wish horrible things on another even in their worst moments. That's not how they roll.

you & me both! (in bold above)

But do you think she really believes this stuff? Or is she just spewing and frothing like an angry dog?

[purplepegasus]

I may have mentioned this before but the police have checked out all the local places for duct tape sales. No luck

Thanks for the info, Kitty! I don't remember you mentioning this before now.

As in, all local stores are saying they haven't sold duct tape in X amount of months? Maybe LE needs to ask, "Has anyone stolen duct tape from your store?"

I know for a fact that home depot and menards submitted all their records for duct tape sales that the police requested. I'm guessing there just wasn't a lead that came out of it.

[Jane]

If she treated all the hocus pocus stuff like a religion I would probably be swayed from making snarky remarks. I know Godly people & they would never wish horrible things on another even in their worst moments. That's not how they roll.

you & me both! (in bold above)

But do you think she really believes this stuff? Or is she just spewing and frothing like an angry dog?

Who knows? Probably a bit of both, LOL

[onefortheroad]

Has this really gotten to this?
Its ridiculous.
Im pretty sure NO ONE in their right mind would be
thinking about pussy when they think their childs life or
well being are at stake.
Good Lord.
Thats about as far reaching as it gets. No wonder Maytee gets
so pissed.

You just summed up my whole point

+1

[NightOwl]

I may have mentioned this before but the police have checked out all the local places for duct tape sales. No luck

Thanks for the info, Kitty! I don't remember you mentioning this before now.

Thanks Kitty! Maybe this bastard uses the tape on his job.

[Jane]

I don't know about anyone else, but I think Sgt Schiavone knew what he was talking about, during that meeting with the Holland residents. My guess is, he went over the line, with what he knew about the case, & therefore the Sheriff had to cover his ass, or else it would look like 'tunnel vision', OR it would make residents feel like LE doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, type thing, as in they don't have a clue what happened. If you think about it, that's pretty much what the Sgt made it sound like, with "the perps have probably left the area" , etc..... leaving it too cut & dry. I know I'm not wording this all right, but in MY mind, I know what I'm talking about, LOL. You have to remember, the Sgt knows how the crime scene looked, knows what all the interviews consisted of, etc ... There's a reason he stated everything he stated to those residents, & I don't think it was ONLY to make them feel safe. jmo

[Jane]

I know for a fact that home depot and menards submitted all their records for duct tape sales that the police requested. I'm guessing there just wasn't a lead that came out of it.

Same here Purple. There's no leads with the duct tape. At least nothing they've come across yet.

[Snoopy]

As in, all local stores are saying they haven't sold duct tape in X amount of months? Maybe LE needs to ask, "Has anyone stolen duct tape from your store?"

I'm not getting this either. No one bought any duct tape, what so ever, anytime around the murders? Not that it really means anything, they could have taken it from their own home. I just find it hard to believe but maybe that's because about a week ago I bought 10 rolls of the shit

I'm guessing the type of duct tape used, wasn't sold around the time of the murders ?? Maybe Kitty can go into a bit more detail of what she meant?

In my home, 1 roll of duct tape could last me 3 years, easily. I seldom have any use for it, and on the rare occasion that I do need it, I usually only need a very small piece of it. It could very well of been purchased well before it was used in this crime. Just saying..

[ZEROSPHERES]

Agreed! If someone is going around telling Maytee just the negative then they are creating more hatred & chaos in that woman's life. Just an instigator, that wants to feel important IMO.

Its possible thats what Maytee wants to hear. She is looking to vent and this gives her the opportunity and excuse to be unreasonable. IMHO Maytee dosen't want to BE reasonable. So her "friends" are feeding into her torment. They should just leave her alone. I know if I experienced what she has I would want to be left alone to try to heal.

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[Jane]

In my home, 1 roll of duct tape could last me 3 years, easily. I seldom have any use for it, and on the rare occasion that I do need it, I usually only need a very small piece of it. It could very well of been purchased well before it was used in this crime. Just saying..

Same here. We have duct tape, but it's rarely used. I can't even remember the last time I used it. For all we know, the tape may have been purchased ages ago, out of the area, for that matter.

[purplepegasus]

I was also told by someone who lives in the neighborhood that they saw the kind of people that would hang out at lisa's and they aren't scared at all that this is something that could happen to them. I feel bad that these kids got themselves caught up in such a lifestyle.

[Jane]

Its possible thats what Maytee wants to hear. She is looking to vent and this gives her the opportunity and excuse to be unreasonable. IMHO Maytee dosen't want to BE reasonable. So her "friends" are feeding into her torment. They should just leave her alone. I know if I experienced what she has I would want to be left alone to try to heal.

We see eye to eye on this, pretty much, Zero!

[WolfHouse]

In my home, 1 roll of duct tape could last me 3 years, easily. I seldom have any use for it, and on the rare occasion that I do need it, I usually only need a very small piece of it. It could very well of been purchased well before it was used in this crime. Just saying..
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Or it could have been stolen, purchased online, purchased in bulk, or
from a house where drugs are packaged. The tv series DEA shows the
different methods of packaging different drugs at their source and
some utilize bags covered with black duct tape, others shrink wrap,
others very large clear baggies, bagged twice, etc.

[NightOwl]

As in, all local stores are saying they haven't sold duct tape in X amount of months? Maybe LE needs to ask, "Has anyone stolen duct tape from your store?"

I'm not getting this either. No one bought any duct tape, what so ever, anytime around the murders? Not that it really means anything, they could have taken it from their own home. I just find it hard to believe but maybe that's because about a week ago I bought 10 rolls of the shit

I'm guessing the type of duct tape used, wasn't sold around the time of the murders ?? Maybe Kitty can go into a bit more detail of what she meant?

Sam's Club sells Duct Tape. Was it black or silver or grey?

[ZEROSPHERES]

More & more, I'm thinking LE doesn't have a thing, as far as who the perps are.

It's always darkest before the dawn....Something's going to break, I am sure LE feels as intensely as we do and wants an see an arrest. They have to play by the rules and give the DA a successful case for prosecution. Remember the FBI and BCI are involved and I think that makes for even tighter lips.