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**purplepegasus** · 03-09-2011, 05:12 PM

(03-09-2011, 01:43 PM)JsMom Wrote:
(03-09-2011, 12:51 PM)mamabear Wrote: I just wanted to add, since I haven't read it yet on this thread, has anyone noticed Lisa's new "badge" on myspace? If Tiffany is telling the truth, which everyone doubts, she was on the phone with Johnny around 11 pm 1/30. So, if she heard a commotion at that time, how did Lisa earn a profile searching badge on 1/31? I have to admit, I am not very familiar with myspace, so I am not sure if it posts automatically or not. But still, someone should have seen that.

http://www.myspace.com/_lisababii_

OMG! GOOD ONE! ILL BE DAMNED! GOOD EYE! I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYONE BRING THAT UP! SO NOW IM REALLY QUESTIONING THE TIMELINE! ALSO ARE U SURE THAT WAS IN 2011??

Actually, this was discussed. It was determined that this was something myspace automatically added to people's accounts when they did an upgrade. I don't think Lisa or anyone else has been on the account in years.

**RaisingAPrince** · 03-09-2011, 05:15 PM

(03-09-2011, 05:12 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: Actually, this was discussed. It was determined that this was something myspace automatically added to people's accounts when they did an upgrade. I don't think Lisa or anyone else has been on the account in years.

I agree with that. I checked it out today and all the pictures she has on it are from 3-5 years ago. Nothing recent that I could see.

**RaisingAPrince** · 03-09-2011, 05:21 PM

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
All you people speculating on beautiful lisa and my gorgeous johnny are way off people please stop with your mocking lies the only one that seen our kids besides law enforcement is my husband johhnys dad and we will not share or say what he encountered at lisas house that night...just so you know you are all way off on your theories stop spreading so many lies woahhhhhh let our poor kids rest in peace and just pray for justice to prevail
about an hour ago via iPhone

I know this was mentioned earlier but her tone/writing seems to be changing from post to post.

**Lady Cop** · 03-09-2011, 05:24 PM

i don't understand Maytee's latest:

All you people speculating on beautiful lisa and my gorgeous johnny are way off people please stop with your mocking lies the only one that seen our kids besides law enforcement is my husband johhnys dad and we will not share or say what he encountered at lisas house that night...just so you know you are all way off on your theories stop spreading so many lies woahhhhhh let our poor kids rest in peace and just pray for justice to prevail.

nobody here is saying they saw anything. or lying about anything. Maytee, whoever reports to you about us is twisting up what is said here. or you are misunderstanding the intent of this place. we're not going to stop discussing the case, we want arrests, and nobody is disrespecting Johnny or Lisa. we are one of many online forums, although we may be the forum of record from what i have seen. if you feel we torment you, perhaps don't read here. or join and give your view. but we won't be silenced. we are rational and sympathetic people, nobody here is cruel. nobody is abusive. i also have rules against vicious gossip and wrongful accusations which everyone abides by. what is public record is public record, it can't be hidden. it's all going to be part of the case record and hopefully a trial. i personally wish you healing.

**JsMom** · 03-09-2011, 05:30 PM

(03-09-2011, 05:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i don't understand Maytee's latest:

All you people speculating on beautiful lisa and my gorgeous johnny are way off people please stop with your mocking lies the only one that seen our kids besides law enforcement is my husband johhnys dad and we will not share or say what he encountered at lisas house that night...just so you know you are all way off on your theories stop spreading so many lies woahhhhhh let our poor kids rest in peace and just pray for justice to prevail.

nobody here is saying they saw anything. or lying about anything. Maytee, whoever reports to you about us is twisting up what is said here. or you are misunderstanding the intent of this place. we're not going to stop discussing the case, we want arrests, and nobody is disrespecting Johnny or Lisa. we are one of many online forums, although we may be the forum of record from what i have seen. if you feel we torment you, perhaps don't read here. or join and give your view. but we won't be silenced. we are rational and sympathetic people, nobody here is cruel. nobody is abusive. i also have rules against vicious gossip and wrongful accusations which everyone abides by. what is public record is public record, it can't be hidden. it's all going to be part of the case record and hopefully a trial. i personally wish you healing.

So True

**mamabear** · 03-09-2011, 05:44 PM

(02-08-2011, 11:20 PM)rotten_cotton Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 11:10 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 10:36 PM)notsure Wrote: where does it say the fb message was sent at 1am. The news video on thread #4 only says yesterday. btw, Ive been reading mock for many days here and have noticed no one has mentioned the fact that it was very cold that sunday night. I can speculate that b/c of the extreme cold no one was hanging outside walking the streets looking for and waiting for a random opportunity to rob someone. I think were all in agreement this was an "inside job" in some form.

toledo on the move.watch the video, once the girl talks the the news person talks but she is in the back still talking watch her lips, the very first time it aired you heard her say at 1 am, now the news is talking over that, me and my spouse heard it now they will have something come of this , she said it and now they are taking it out watch the lips, you can see.

I wonder why they edited it out? And why the story with her in it has been removed from The Blade. IMO she is not involved, but may have some info that LE wants to keep quiet.

If the police think that something is relevant and key to a case, they will have the news stations edit their videos. If what Sarah said is true, then obviously Tiffany is lying about her speaking with Johnny at 11 pm and hearing a commotion. Maybe the police are hoping to get more information out of Tiffany? This is the first I have heard of Sarah mentioning a message, and I am local. I must have missed the news that day, lol!

**ToledoNative** · 03-09-2011, 05:45 PM

(03-09-2011, 12:55 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: how sad to see her myspace, full of life, fun and hopes.

I know, LC. It really makes it hit home.

**ToledoNative** · 03-09-2011, 05:48 PM

(03-09-2011, 03:58 PM)Duchess Wrote:

You guys could pick apart a grain of sand.

I don't say that meanly.

Let's hope law enforcement is doing the same thing...

**ToledoNative** · 03-09-2011, 05:50 PM

(03-09-2011, 05:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i don't understand Maytee's latest:

All you people speculating on beautiful lisa and my gorgeous johnny are way off people please stop with your mocking lies the only one that seen our kids besides law enforcement is my husband johhnys dad and we will not share or say what he encountered at lisas house that night...just so you know you are all way off on your theories stop spreading so many lies woahhhhhh let our poor kids rest in peace and just pray for justice to prevail.

nobody here is saying they saw anything. or lying about anything. Maytee, whoever reports to you about us is twisting up what is said here. or you are misunderstanding the intent of this place. we're not going to stop discussing the case, we want arrests, and nobody is disrespecting Johnny or Lisa. we are one of many online forums, although we may be the forum of record from what i have seen. if you feel we torment you, perhaps don't read here. or join and give your view. but we won't be silenced. we are rational and sympathetic people, nobody here is cruel. nobody is abusive. i also have rules against vicious gossip and wrongful accusations which everyone abides by. what is public record is public record, it can't be hidden. it's all going to be part of the case record and hopefully a trial. i personally wish you healing.

Silence causes cases like this to be swept under the rug. We aren't going to shut up until justice is served for Johnny and Lisa.

**mamabear** · 03-09-2011, 05:57 PM

(02-09-2011, 12:07 AM)LabRat Wrote: I really wish I had ANY faith in the Toledo Police Dept. at all... I guarantee when I get off work tonight there will be 3 marked police cars sitting at their usual Speedway here on the south side, I'm sure they already have all the information they need on this case so no need to do any real investigative work.... I would bet that most of us on this forum know more than some of the officers working the case. Last year Toledo had 11 murders unsolved out of 26 total... that's a 58% solve rate, or 42% of the murders remain unsolved.... not very good chance that this one will be solved IMHO.

Lol, true about local police; they are getting better though, thanks to the Chief weeding out the bad seeds. And, usually the police just patrol and respond; detectives do the sleuthing.

**fabulous** · 03-09-2011, 06:15 PM

someone told me at work today that if you go to the "WTOL" -local tv station- fb page there was some comments about the case that were posted on the newsfeed...and that Maytee piped in as well and responded to what people were saying...did anyone see this?

I am not able to access FB at work, so I haven't checked yet.

**trixie** · 03-09-2011, 06:18 PM

(03-09-2011, 05:44 PM)mamabear Wrote: If the police think that something is relevant and key to a case, they will have the news stations edit their videos. If what Sarah said is true, then obviously Tiffany is lying about her speaking with Johnny at 11 pm and hearing a commotion. Maybe the police are hoping to get more information out of Tiffany? This is the first I have heard of Sarah mentioning a message, and I am local. I must have missed the news that day, lol!

Page 299 #4184...

**Adub** · 03-09-2011, 06:23 PM

(03-09-2011, 05:44 PM)mamabear Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 11:20 PM)rotten_cotton Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 11:10 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 10:36 PM)notsure Wrote: where does it say the fb message was sent at 1am. The news video on thread #4 only says yesterday. btw, Ive been reading mock for many days here and have noticed no one has mentioned the fact that it was very cold that sunday night. I can speculate that b/c of the extreme cold no one was hanging outside walking the streets looking for and waiting for a random opportunity to rob someone. I think were all in agreement this was an "inside job" in some form.

toledo on the move.watch the video, once the girl talks the the news person talks but she is in the back still talking watch her lips, the very first time it aired you heard her say at 1 am, now the news is talking over that, me and my spouse heard it now they will have something come of this , she said it and now they are taking it out watch the lips, you can see.

I wonder why they edited it out? And why the story with her in it has been removed from The Blade. IMO she is not involved, but may have some info that LE wants to keep quiet.

If the police think that something is relevant and key to a case, they will have the news stations edit their videos. If what Sarah said is true, then obviously Tiffany is lying about her speaking with Johnny at 11 pm and hearing a commotion. Maybe the police are hoping to get more information out of Tiffany? This is the first I have heard of Sarah mentioning a message, and I am local. I must have missed the news that day, lol!

Thanks, you made me go back and read Boogy Woogy. After the Springfield Township Trustees fiasco....taking a step back might be a good idea. Unfortunately, fb had me consumed for weeks. And I realize that everyone does not keep time in the same zone. But no way was Lisa on fb at 1:00 am on the morning of her murder, or the morning after. The 1^st 911 came in @ 1:21. Hmmmm, and JCsr said the bodies were cold @ 3:40. 2+ hrs vs 4+ hrs.

**4shannon4** · 03-09-2011, 06:29 PM

(03-09-2011, 05:44 PM)mamabear Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 11:20 PM)rotten_cotton Wrote:
(02-08-2011, 11:10 PM)BoogyWoogy Wrote: [quote='notsure' pid='125429' dateline='1297218982']
where does it say the fb message was sent at 1am. The news video on thread #4 only says yesterday. btw, Ive been reading mock for many days here and have noticed no one has mentioned the fact that it was very cold that sunday night. I can speculate that b/c of the extreme cold no one was hanging outside walking the streets looking for and waiting for a random opportunity to rob someone. I think were all in agreement this was an "inside job" in some form.

toledo on the move.watch the video, once the girl talks the the news person talks but she is in the back still talking watch her lips, the very first time it aired you heard her say at 1 am, now the news is talking over that, me and my spouse heard it now they will have something come of this , she said it and now they are taking it out watch the lips, you can see.

I wonder why they edited it out? And why the story with her in it has been removed from The Blade. IMO she is not involved, but may have some info that LE wants to keep quiet.

If the police think that something is relevant and key to a case, they will have the news stations edit their videos. If what Sarah said is true, then obviously Tiffany is lying about her speaking with Johnny at 11 pm and hearing a commotion. Maybe the police are hoping to get more information out of Tiffany? This is the first I have heard of Sarah mentioning a message, and I am local. I must have missed the news that day, lol!
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who is sarah?I have been at workj all day please update me

**trixie** · 03-09-2011, 06:31 PM

Sarah is Lisa's best friend that she grew up with. I posted what Lisa wrote on her Facebook wall on page 299 post # 4184.

**Adub** · 03-09-2011, 06:35 PM

(02-18-2011, 03:21 PM)trixie Wrote:
(02-18-2011, 03:14 PM)HeartBreaker Wrote:
(02-18-2011, 02:56 PM)JustSayin... Wrote: SM is a dear friend who is devastated by the loss of her friend. The message you are referring to told SM that LS missed her and wanted to get together soon. SM is a nice girl, and college student. I think she would have avoided the crowd JC had brought into her friends life.

if this comment was directed at my question earlier... i was never insinuating that SM was involved. i agree that from what i read and saw of her in the news she seemed like a nice girl and truly grieving the loss of her friend. i just thought that if what i had read early in the case was accurate that it could help add to the possible timeline of what went down the night of the murder. from what i read, it sounded like the FB message was possible sent the night everything happened. it would be interesting to me to know if that's true and if so, what time was it sent... it could give us a little more insight into some of the timing details.

sarbear.. i misss you! can we hang out soon!!
January 30 at 1:40pm

Well that was irritating...click..click..click....

**kitty1** · 03-09-2011, 06:36 PM

(03-09-2011, 06:15 PM)fabulous Wrote: someone told me at work today that if you go to the "WTOL" -local tv station- fb page there was some comments about the case that were posted on the newsfeed...and that Maytee piped in as well and responded to what people were saying...did anyone see this?

I am not able to access FB at work, so I haven't checked yet.

Yes. I just checked it out. She is on there a few times. She is saying about the same things she usually says. I also saw on FB i think j will prevail that she has talked to her lawyer becuz MOCK has illegally posted pictures from FB to this site!!!

**Lady Cop** · 03-09-2011, 06:40 PM

pictures in the public domain are not illegal to post.

**Adub** · 03-09-2011, 07:08 PM

(03-09-2011, 06:40 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: pictures in the public domain are not illegal to post.

And you can bank on private photos, if msm be willing that is.... sucks for Maytee that she didn't take the main photo being put up on the billboards. Which msm attributes to fb.....

**aileen** · 03-09-2011, 07:09 PM

sarbear.. i misss you! can we hang out soon!!
January 30 at 1:40pm

This was posted on Sunday AFTERNOON, not 1:40 AM

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