Lisa Irwin 10 Mos. missing. MO

[soothsayer]

I still think it's possible that baby Lisa was let out of her crib by the other kids while the mom was outside drinking.

Ok, but then where is she?

[sharit]

Could the call to megans phone have been for purchase of drugs?

[Cheyne]

Megan Wright looking for her 15 minutes.

"When the police first told me that the Irwin's phone [never specified if it was Deborah's or another family member's number] was the number that had called me, I went into panic mode," Megan said in a private Facebook message Monday.

"I knew I didn't have my phone at the times they told me the call was made, and I was trying my best to ask everyone around that may have had my phone that night: who had my phone, who answered the call [if it was answered, I guess there is a possibility that the 50 second call was a voicemail left on my phone] and what may have been said, as well as who the caller was," she said.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-...tioned-her

[Lady Cop]

poor little baby would have been 1 year old tomorrow.

i agree with Mark Fuhrman...she's probably in the river.

my opinion is maybe one day some skeletal remains will snag on a branch or something on the river bank.


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Police say they have run out of places to look for a Kansas City baby who disappeared from her crib more than five weeks ago and whose first birthday is Friday, but the hunt for Lisa Irwin continues behind the scenes.

The frantic search that began when Lisa was reported missing Oct. 4 has morphed into a less visible review of evidence. Investigators have received 1,271 tips and cleared 966 of them. Law enforcement officers initially combed the neighborhood, nearby wooded areas, industrial sites and landfills but those searches ended weeks ago. Police said that doesn't mean the investigation has lost its steam.

"We are not doing any physical field searching just to do it," Kansas City Police Capt. Steve Young said Thursday. "If we have another idea, thought or piece of information on where to do that, we will do it before you can blink. But we aren't going to do it just to do it. We're not going to close our eyes and start throwing darts."

The baby's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, haven't spoken publicly since allowing a national news show's television crew to follow them around while their two sons trick-or-treated on Halloween night. They also haven't been as open with investigators as police would like, further complicating the search, Young said.

"I'm not saying they're not cooperating," he said. "They have met some of our needs. What I've been talking about specifically is sitting down, separate from each other, to be interviewed by detectives. In regard to that, no, that hasn't happen since the 8^th of October."

Joe Tacopina, the New York attorney representing the parents, refused to comment for this story but suggested he may issue a statement about the case on Friday. Before then, Tacopina has said neither the family nor attorneys would be doing interviews so that they could focus on the search for Lisa.

[lawheeze]

i'll eat my combat boots if taco allows kids to be interviewed. i don't care what Fox reports. nothing but crap reporting everywhere on this case, i believe NOTHING unless LE says it.

Hungry?

Missing Baby's Brothers Being Interviewed By KCPD

POSTED: 4:34 pm CST November 10, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The brothers of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin were being interviewed by Kansas City police on Thursday, police said.

Read more.

[Lady Cop]

well they are tough. and chewy. need A1 sauce.

but i have to wonder about what they remember accurately at this late date. and how well they've been coached/brainwashed.

[lawheeze]

but i have to wonder about what they remember accurately at this late date. and how well they've been coached/brainwashed. [/b]

Agree. I'm not very hopeful. So much misinformation may have been planted in them by now.

[chinchillas2cool]

but i have to wonder about what they remember accurately at this late date. and how well they've been coached/brainwashed. [/b]

Agree. I'm not very hopeful. So much misinformation may have been planted in them by now.

Yes, sadly I bet they have coached them quite a bit. Hopefully not well enough. Fingers crossed!

[Lady Cop]

you can bet taco et al were faced with this or a subpoena. so they look better if they "volunteer" the kids to be interviewed. i wouldn't be shocked to find out this interview was court-ordered.

my question is WHY IN HELL DO THOSE PARENTS TRY TO THWART ANYTHING THAT COULD HELP FIND LISA??


The young brothers of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin are being interviewed by authorities over what they saw the night that the child went missing from her crib in her family’s Northland home.

Irwin family attorney John Picerno has confirmed for FOX 4 News that the children are being interviewed by a forensic interviewer flown in to Kansas City from Washington, D.C. by the FBI.

The boys were scheduled to be interviewed two weeks ago, but those interviews were cancelled by the family at the last-minute.

Picerno would not elaborate on the questioning, except to confirm that it is underway at an undisclosed location.

[poemofpeace]

Why is the FBI involved? How customary is this? When is it normal for FBI to step in alongside the police? Anyone knows?

My enduring intuition is that there is some under the surface ugly stuff going on in this case that may stay hidden for a while.

[Lady Cop]

Why is the FBI involved? How customary is this? When is it normal for FBI to step in alongside the police? Anyone knows?

My enduring intuition is that there is some under the surface ugly stuff going on in this case that may stay hidden for a while.

the FBI was involved from the start, and i am sure all parties agreed they have the most experienced unassailable people for the job.

[lawheeze]

my question is WHY IN HELL DO THOSE PARENTS TRY TO THWART ANYTHING THAT COULD HELP FIND LISA??

Because it's not really a kidnapping?

Did I get the right answer.

Seriously though, it's truly sad and their behavior is baffling. I don't know how anyone in their camp can keep a straight face when they say some of this stuff...like no public comments right now because they're too busy looking for Baby Lisa.

[poemofpeace]

Hmm... I recall that the FBI was involved from the start, but how typical is this? In other words, when is the FBI joining the police in investigating a crime/problem?

For example, is it a matter of jurisdiction, such that the police is dealing with matters of local import, but the FBI is 'federal,' hence it intervenes when the issue transcends the bounds a given state or at least locality?

Or, is it a matter of expertise superiority, such that when a case seems more complex, or plain tough to crack, the police calls in the better equipped people?

Or a combination of these?

Or something else?

[Lady Cop]

FBI has been called in on missing child cases for some time. the FBI has been involved with kidnapping since the Lindbergh baby. but CARD was formed in 2006.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/...s/cac/card


Child Abduction Rapid Deployment (CARD) Teams


It is the mission of the FBI's Crimes Against Children Unit to provide a quick and effective response to all incidents of crimes against children. The first few hours after a child is abducted are critical, and that is why we have established the Child Abduction Rapid Deployment (CARD) Teams.

The CARD Teams are designed to deploy teams of 4-6 experienced personnel to provide on-the-ground investigative, technical, and resource assistance to state and local law enforcement. The CARD Teams consist of Crimes Against Children investigators who have in-depth experience in child abduction cases. The nationwide CARD Team consists of 60 members, with two full teams serving each region of the country. They work closely with FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit representatives, National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime Coordinators, and Crimes Against Children Coordinators.

In addition to their unique expertise, CARD Teams are capable of quickly establishing an on-site command post to centralize investigative efforts and operations. Other assets they bring to the table include a new mapping tool to identify and locate registered sex offenders in the area, national and international lead coverage, and the Child Abduction Response Plan to guide investigative efforts.

CARD Teams are primarily involved in non-family child abductions, ransom child abductions, and mysterious disappearances of children. They work with state and local law enforcement to protect and save the lives of innocent children.

[chinchillas2cool]

Got a question for anyone to answer. So are the parents in the room with the kids when they are doing these types of interviews? I know I probably won't find out if they where on this one. But is it common for them to be present? I guess I'm curious because I want to know if the parents can stop them from saying something they don't like. ( Like a coached question)

[Lady Cop]

no they wouldn't be. it would defeat the entire purpose.

[chinchillas2cool]

no they wouldn't be. it would defeat the entire purpose.

I figured but didn't know if they could request to be there as part of an agreement to have this interview. But of course it makes more sense not to let them be apart of it.
Now let's keep are fingers crossed those boys give them something to go off of.

[poemofpeace]

I am curious about something here... perhaps a bit naive, but hey, I really don't know. So, these guys (the parents) have managed to avoid being interviewed individually by the police, in a cover-all-ground manner.

How did they do this? If the police summons a person for questions, can such a person just say no, thank you??

[Lady Cop]

to Chinch:
The specialist interviewed the brothers individually. Each interview was videotaped. According to police, the lawyers, family and detectives were in another room while the interviews were conducted.

A police spokesman described the development a "baby step," saying detectives still want to test the boys for DNA and bring in both parents for new interviews.

to Poem:

the Miranda warning "you have the right to remain silent" is not just empty words. nobody has to talk to the police or incriminate themselves. it is an absolute right. yes, the subject can say NO. right through an arrest and trial if they wish.

[nrkerr]

Today is her 1^st birthday