(04-14-2020, 08:40 PM)Maggot Wrote: I'm voting for Biden if he picks Americas Princess.

(04-14-2020, 08:41 PM)BigMark Wrote: Melania and Paris...

(04-14-2020, 09:57 PM)Maggot Wrote: I hope they only give press conferences on windy days.

The proud-to-be-idiots that represent Trump's America.  Derp.

I'm leaning more towards the Trump train and I'm not an idiot. I'm pretty sensible. I'm not voting, but I'm holding my opinion that trump was ill advised on this whole thing. Please show proof that he wasnt if you care to. I've asked about the testing fiasco and if it was his decision, no solid answers. You fucks just run your mouths and I dont think you have any business calling people that dont agree with you idiots.

Witness

(04-14-2020, 11:37 PM)sally Wrote: I'm leaning more towards the Trump train and I'm not an idiot. I'm pretty sensible.  I'm not voting, but I'm holding my opinion that trump was ill advised on this whole thing. Please show proof that he wasnt if you care to. I've asked about the testing fiasco and if it was his decision, no solid answers. You fucks just run your mouths and I dont think you have any business calling people that dont agree with you idiots.

You are full of shit, Sal.

You're so afraid of being perceived to be part of a "herd" that you will  often object to a majority opinion (even when you shared that opinion before it became a clear majority) -- no matter if that consensus is based on nothing but facts and common sense. 

That's almost always the case and I'm never surprised by it, in matters big and small.  It makes for good some back and forth at times, so there's that.

My opinions don't change based on how many people agree or disagree with them.  So, I sometimes agree with you and sometimes don't.

In any case, you can blame the CDC for the testing failure. Fair enough.  But, the CDC is under the jurisdiction of the federal government led by the President of the United States.  And, all of the promises that President Trump has made either falsely or wrongly, which have been detailed and cited on the board, obviously lie at his feet unless you're simply playing dumb devil's advocate.

I've always told you that I don't care who you vote for.  And, as I've told you more than once before, I'm not one to believe that  you have no right to weigh in just because you say that you don't vote (though you did say that you voted for Trump under pressure from your husband, and later said and you're sticking with him and the Republicans because you got a tax break). 

Whatever the case, I still don't care if you vote for Trump or don't vote at all.  I do think you're an idiot if you insist that a leader (Trump or anyone else) who won't take responsibility for his/her own administration, own decisions, and own statements is somehow just a perpetual victim and there's always someone else to blame.

(04-15-2020, 12:11 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(04-14-2020, 11:37 PM)sally Wrote: I'm leaning more towards the Trump train and I'm not an idiot. I'm pretty sensible.  I'm not voting, but I'm holding my opinion that trump was ill advised on this whole thing. Please show proof that he wasnt if you care to. I've asked about the testing fiasco and if it was his decision, no solid answers. You fucks just run your mouths and I dont think you have any business calling people that dont agree with you idiots.

You are full of shit, Sal.

You're so afraid of being perceived to be part of a "herd" that you will  often object to a majority opinion (even when you shared that opinion before it became a clear majority) -- no matter if that consensus is based on nothing but facts and common sense. 

That's almost always the case and I'm never surprised by it, in matters big and small.  It makes for good some back and forth at times, so there's that.

My opinions don't change based on how many people agree or disagree with them.  So, I sometimes agree with you and sometimes don't.

In any case, you can blame the CDC for the testing failure. Fair enough.  But, the CDC is under the jurisdiction of the federal government led by the President of the United States.  And, all of the promises that President Trump has made either falsely or wrongly, which have been detailed and cited on the board, obviously lie at his feet unless you're simply playing dumb devil's advocate.

I've always told you that I don't care who you vote for.  And, as I've  told you more than once before, I'm not one to believe that  you have no right to weigh in just because you say that you don't vote (though you did say that you voted for Trump under pressure from your husband, and later said and you're sticking with him and the Republicans because you got a tax break). 

Whatever the case, I still don't care if you vote for Trump or don't vote at all.  I do think you're an idiot if you insist that a leader (Trump or anyone else) who won't take responsibility for his/her own administration, own decisions, and own statements is somehow just a perpetual victim and there's always someone else to blame.

Oh God put a sock in it. You are now admitting that the WHO and the CDC mislead him, something you wouldnt admit a month ago when I asked.

Again, you are so clearly full of shit, Sal.

I don't know if China misled the WHO or not.  I know that Trump has praised China, blamed China, praised China again, blamed China again, etc...

I know that the initial CDC tests were flawed. I also know that President Trump decided not to use the WHO testing protocols when that happened. Both of which I shared with you in the 'Coronavirus' thread. Read back.

I also know that the WHO declared a global emergency long before President Trump did anything but downplay the virus.  Just look at the first posts in that thread.

And, I know that neither China nor the WHO told President Trump to downplay the seriousness of the virus, to contradict his own medical experts, to make multiple false/wrong commitments regarding tests, PPE, etc...

So, you put a sock in it, puta.

And you are very wrong about me worrying about being perceived as part of the herd. I dont normally care enough about politics to make an informed decision which is why I ask you assholes. Now I care a little bit because I've never seen anything like this and it's scary so I've paid more attention. And my conclusion is you guys are blinded by your hatred of Trump and wrapped up like a douche in the middle of the night.

(04-15-2020, 12:30 AM)sally Wrote: And you are very wrong about me worrying about being perceived as part of the herd. I dont normally care enough about politics to make an informed decision which is why I ask you assholes. Now I care a little bit because I've never seen anything like this and it's scary so I've paid more attention. And my conclusion is you guys are blinded by your hatred of Trump and wrapped up like a douche in the middle of the night.

That's not true, Sal.

Many times over the years you've gotten all riled about what you claimed was a "herd" mentality.

And, I'm not blinded by a hatred of Trump -- which I think you know full well.

I've given him credit where I think it's due and criticized him where I think it's due -- same as I did with Obama (who I never voted for).

It's my opinion that Trump has failed miserably in handling this very serious national emergency and made it worse by repreatedly lying, contradicting himself and his own experts, and trying to position himself as a misled victim to the extremely gullible.  I've already backed up those opinions in the 'Coronavirus' thread.

So, I'll put a sock in it now because I think you just want to fight, and this is one subject that's too serious and close to home for that to be of any fun for me.

I cant stand watching the news, I'd rather blow my brains out. So I rely on you for the news and look where it has gotten me. I'm stuck in my house like an apoplectic zombie questioning if Trump should die so that senile old pervert Biden can become president. Thanks.

(04-15-2020, 12:40 AM)HairOfTheDog. Wrote: So, I'll put a sock in it now because I think you just want to fight, and this is one subject that's too serious and close to home for that to be of any fun for me.

You just called Maggot and Mark dipshit idiots. I'm pretty sure you want to fight even if it is subconsciously. Please.

Anyhow, I just cant sleep and I dont want to go in and watch the stupid news with my husband. I hope everything is good for everyone, this sucks.

(04-15-2020, 12:57 AM)sally Wrote:

(04-15-2020, 12:40 AM)HairOfTheDog. Wrote: So, I'll put a sock in it now because I think you just want to fight, and this is one subject that's too serious and close to home for that to be of any fun for me.

You just called Maggot and Mark dipshit idiots. I'm pretty sure you want to fight even if it is subconsciously. Please.

No, I really feel that they are dipshit idiots on this subject (although I only called them idiots).  I don't think that's even debatable or fight-worthy, and I doubt it would be a surprise to either of them or anyone else.

Do you not think they're idiots in this regard?  Do you not think I'm an idiot in some regards? 

Because, as I said, I think you're an idiot sometimes.  Though, honestly, I never really think you're a dipshit like those two fools.

I suppose that's true.

(04-15-2020, 02:12 AM)sally Wrote: I suppose that's true.

Well, I'm glad we can agree on that.

I'd really be worried about you if you didn't think Paris Hilton would be an idiotic, even dipshit, choice for Vice President.  

I think (hope) Maggot and Biggie were being idiots on purpose.  However, having said that............they did vote a reality tv show personality into the presidency, so who knows.

(04-14-2020, 11:37 PM)sally Wrote: I'm leaning more towards the Trump train and I'm not an idiot.

 Oxymoron.

The more Trump pisses off the left the more I know he's doing the right thing. And I do not believe I have called anyone here an idiot,,,,,ever, it's the left wings forte to call people names and belittle anyone that disagrees with them. Everyone knows that.

(04-15-2020, 06:17 AM)Maggot Wrote:   I know he's doing the right thing. 

I thought you were someone who paid attention to current events. Sorry, I shouldn't have presumed.

Don't shoot the Psychiatrist for trying to explain the workings of the lunatics minds.

It's not just the left that resorts to name calling,    the right wing nuts do it as well.

I wouldn't mind the name calling so much,  except 'idiot' 'dumb trumpet ' and 'libtard'  get boring after a while. 

Then again,  nothing gets you kicked out of a Facebook group faster than calling the admin a knuckle dragging swamp lizard with a tiny dick.   

(04-15-2020, 06:17 AM)Maggot Wrote: The more Trump pisses off the left the more I know he's doing the right thing. And I do not believe I have called anyone here an idiot,,,,,ever, it's the left wings forte to call people names and belittle anyone that disagrees with them. Everyone knows that.

You label people and call people names all the time, Mags. 

You just typically do it in a passive aggressive way where you take swipes at everyone who doesn't agree with your politics or doesn't share your worship of Donald Trump -- "lunatics", "haters", "violent", and so on.    

In any case, if I proclaim that I'll vote for Trump if he ousts Pence and selects a hot young male celebrity VP who does press conferences in tight jeans, or something idiotic like that........I'd expect to be called an idiot or something similar (by a "lefty", a "righty" or anyone else) and wouldn't position myself as a "target".