Australian exchange student gunned down

[Midwest Spy]

When Al says one of the suspects was 'white' he means the same kind of 'white' that Zimmerman was, right?

[Duchess]

When Al says one of the suspects was 'white' he means the same kind of 'white' that Zimmerman was, right?

I think so. They are what is called a "more" here. More black than white.

[HairOfTheDog]

An online memorial fund set up by one of Lane's US baseball team-mates has raised a staggering $155,000 ($A173,000) in just three days.


Memorial near spot where Lane was killed

It was hoped the fund would raise $US15,000 to help pay for funeral expenses and take Lane's body back to Melbourne; the extra funds will be used by Lane's parents to set up a foundation to make donations to organizations Lane was passionate about.

LE addresses racism and gang speculation:

Chris Lane was not shot in the back and left to die on the side of a road in Oklahoma because he was white or the victim of a gang initiation, the lead prosecutor and police chief investigating the Australian's murder believes.

Inflammatory, race-based comments on Twitter by the youngest accused, 15-year-old James "Bug" Edwards, before last week's drive-by murder in the city of Duncan led to speculation Lane, 22, from Melbourne, was targeted because of his race.

In one Twitter post Edwards wrote: "90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM".

In another post Edwards, a champion junior wrestler who hoped to represent the US at the Olympics, wrote "Ayeee I knocced out 5 woods since Zimmerman court!," Edwards posted, using the derogatory word "woods" to describe whites.

Stephens County district attorney Jason Hicks said there was not enough evidence collected so far in the investigation to indicate Lane's killing was motivated by race.

"At this point, the evidence does not support the theory that Christopher Lane was targeted based upon his race or nationality; the evidence is insufficient to establish that race was the primary motive in the murder of Christopher Lane."

Hicks noted Luna's mother and Jones were both white.

Duncan police chief Danny Ford has also hosed down speculation the three boys were members of a gang and the targeting of Lane as he jogged along a road was part of a gang initiation. Ford believes it is possible the boys were "wannabe gangsters".

Full story:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/au...not-factor

[JsMom]

Nihilistic little pricks.

No conscience, no empathy and I bet no remorse about what they've done either.

3 scumbags going nowhere in life end the life of someone with real potential, no justice, no karma.

I couldn't agree more.

[JsMom]

I hope this gets national attention.

It's being reported that some in Australia are calling for a boycott on tourism in America; big story that's generating a lot of anger there.

"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," former Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer told CNN's Piers Morgan.

"People thinking of going to the USA for business or tourists trips should think carefully about it given the statistical fact you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in Australia per capita per million people."

Story:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/au...-oklahoma/

I'm sorry but I don't blame them. We as Americans would do the same damn thing if this was happening to our people in thier country......Js

[JsMom]

It's only racial when it's a minority who is deceased or victimized. It doesn't work the other way around unfortunately.

I am all about Justice where it is deserved, but this is getting out of hand! Just this week "young African males" killed an innocent white males. The president coming on National TV speaking like he did, IN YOUNG minds, he is saying it is okay to be an angry "young black American". In MY Opinion!

How disgusting that after all of this the douche bag HAS NOT even made a statement, BUT HE WAS right in front of the cameras after the Martin shooting!!

Usually I do not get heated about murders/race issues, its an endless battle. I am at my breaking point with this and can not keep quite any longer! Absolutely DISGUSTING! Embarrassed to be an American!

I couldn't have said it better. It's a damn shame.

[HairOfTheDog]

I hope this gets national attention.

It's being reported that some in Australia are calling for a boycott on tourism in America; big story that's generating a lot of anger there.

"It is another example of murder mayhem on Main Street," former Australian deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer told CNN's Piers Morgan.

"People thinking of going to the USA for business or tourists trips should think carefully about it given the statistical fact you are 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the USA than in Australia per capita per million people."

Story:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/au...-oklahoma/

I'm sorry but I don't blame them. We as Americans would do the same damn thing if this was happening to our people in thier country......Js

Why are you sorry?

Nobody said they blamed some of the Australian leaders and public for their reaction to such a senseless tragedy.

Nobody said that they don't have the right to boycott tourism to the US if they feel it's too dangerous.

The killing of this promising Australian man in the US is maddening and saddening; I've seen nobody express otherwise.

I will say that your "just saying" suggestion that this is happening to "their people" over here is off-base, JsMom. Their people, Australians specifically, getting murdered in the US isn't an ongoing problem or trend. Crime and murder in general is the issue.

I, as an American, would not boycott or avoid travel to another country based on one US citizen being killed there in a random crime. But, I completely understand why some tourists don't want to visit countries with crime rates higher than their own or beyond what they consider safe.

[username]

I am pretty damn tired of the disparities between public outcry regarding white (or near white) violence against minorities as opposed to minority violence against whites or other minorities. Sharpton and his like should take a hint from Bill Cosby and rant equally about black youth shooting one another and/or anyone else.

The Trayvon case fascinated me because of the SYG/stalking aspect but all this bullshit about making it about race (because that works for the NAACP and such) pisses me off.

[Duchess]

I don't think this murder had anything to do with race.

[Jimbone]

I don't think this murder had anything to do with race.

Have this exact crime go down the exact same way, but just flip the race of the perps and victim. Imagine if one of the perps involved had tweeted about hating black people, and was shortly thereafter involved in 'randomly' killing a black person.

Would it have anything to do with race then? Would the reaction and the response to the incident be different then?

The narratives, reporting, and activism are certainly adjusted based on the race of the perps and victims. Anyone who denies it isn't being intellectually honest or just hasn't been paying attention.

Or someone will just label me a racist for stating the obvious.

Seems to me if it would have to do with race in one direction, it has to do with race in the other direction.

[Duchess]

My opinion in thinking it wasn't race related is because I believe they would have shot the jogger if he would have been black. I view them as thugs with no respect for life regardless of the color of their victim.

[Maggot]

In one Twitter post Edwards wrote: "90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM".

In another post Edwards, a champion junior wrestler who hoped to represent the US at the Olympics, wrote "Ayeee I knocced out 5 woods since Zimmerman court!," Edwards posted, using the derogatory word "woods" to describe whites.

Stephens County district attorney Jason Hicks said there was not enough evidence collected so far in the investigation to indicate Lane's killing was motivated by race.


Yeah........O.K. nothing racial here, please move along.

[Duchess]

I read all that a few days ago & my opinion remains the same.

[Jimbone]

I view them as thugs with no respect for life regardless of the color of their victim.

I agree with this 100%. Thugs be thuggin'.

But the gesticulation everyone goes through to make sure black on white crime is not about race is very peculiar to me... because when the reverse is true, the usual immediate reaction is that it is somehow connected to race.

[Duchess]

But the gesticulation everyone goes through to make sure black on white crime is not about race is very peculiar to me... because when the reverse is true, the immediate reaction is that it is someone connected to race.

Meh. You know everyone has an opinion & most people think their opinion is the only right opinion. All rational people can do is stand by what they believe. We see this kind of thing going on with every black/white crime and there will always be those who want to make it be about race when it's nothing more than fucked up individuals doing fucked up things.

[Jimbone]

Meh. You know everyone has an opinion & most people think their opinion is the only right opinion. All rational people can do is stand by what they believe. We see this kind of thing going on with every black/white crime and there will always be those who want to make it be about race when it's nothing more than fucked up individuals doing fucked up things.

I do agree with this too. I guess I wish our media was rational and not sensational. I wish they called out or at the very least ignored racial agitators on either side.

Honestly all the intimation of racial discourse only serves to create actual racial discourse. It is frustrating.

[aussiefriend]

Jimmy, you are an appalling racist. Your real transgression though lies in your denial of it's existance. Maybe you are not just lying to the world but also yourself. I wouldn't even call your comments overt, just pure hate based. Bye now.

[Jimbone]

Jimmy, you are an appalling racist. Your real transgression though lies in your denial of it's existance. Maybe you are not just lying to the world but also yourself. I wouldn't even call your comments overt, just pure hate based. Bye now.

Someone's off their meds apparently.

Saussie, you've once again made a claim that I am a racist. Either prove it and back it up, or stop your trolling.

And once again, if anyone else wants to help saussie out and show me how I am an 'appalling racist', please feel free.

[aussiefriend]

you've once again made a claim that I am a racist. Either prove it and back it up, or stop your trolling.

Where? Where? I don't see it. I'm not a racist.

I've made it again winner because you keep doing it, worse than that, you keep denying it. Or when you were talking about race did you mean the Asian community?

[aussiefriend]

Have this exact crime go down the exact same way, but just flip the race of the perps and victim. Imagine if one of the perps involved had tweeted about hating black people, and was shortly thereafter involved in 'randomly' killing a black person.

Would it have anything to do with race then? Would the reaction and the response to the incident be different then?

The narratives, reporting, and activism are certainly adjusted based on the race of the perps and victims. Anyone who denies it isn't being intellectually honest or just hasn't been paying attention.

Or someone will just label me a racist for stating the obvious.

Seems to me if it would have to do with race in one direction, it has to do with race in the other direction.

This post wreaks of racism. You don't need to be an academic to analyse the tone or the content to understand this. This is grade 1 stuff.

I tried to highlight which parts are specifically racist but the whole lot is hate based along with the disclaimer in the second last paragraph and the nonsense in the last bit. "race in one direction it has to do with race in the other direction" a statement like that comes from someone with limited understanding and insight into culture, ethnicity different communities and how the social structure works. The same of one community is not the same way in another. Different people have different experiences, expectations, fears, just like yours would be different to that of an englishman. That is very basic.