ELECTION 2020

[BigMark]

mom, HE SAID BRING IT YOU'RE NOT BEING FAIR!

[BigMark]

Lovechild, you little vixen. AYE FUCKING CARUMBA.

[HairOfTheDog]

I don't think there should be super delegates either,  especially after what happened in 2016,  but I have a question for you,  HOTD,  say Bernie does come in just under,  and the super delegates give the nomination to someone else  ( I'm thinking either Warren or Biden)  do you think that it'll cause the majority of Democrats in this country to try and write in Bernie, effectively causing a split in the democratic vote?  

Bernie tried to make sure his followers supported Hillary in 2016, but I'm not sure if he's going to be able to get them to support whoever the super delegates choose this time around.

I don't know cannongal.

I remember Bernie and Trump were in similar positions as Bernie is today during the 2016 election cycle......... in terms of beating their competitors in some early primaries and caucuses, losing in others, and in both cases splitting votes/delegates from state to state with their competitors. 

There was a lot of talk about contested Republican and Democratic conventions at this point in 2016 too, but neither party's convention ended up being contested. 

After winning in early primary/caucus states this year, Bernie could wind up losing too many big-delegates states and being overtaken by one of the other candidates running under the Democrat umbrella -- same as in 2016. 

In that case, I think he would do everything he could to get his supporters to vote for the Democratic nominee again, like he did for Hillary Clinton (who is still bitching that Bernie didn't do enough for her and 'nobody in government likes Bernie').  

Or, he could get to the convention with a clear plurality but not a majority of delegates, and the Democratic party's superdelegates and brokers could decide that denying Bernie the nomination would be more problematic for the party and the country than green-lighting his nomination (similar to what the Republican establishment relented and did with Trump in 2016).

[HairOfTheDog]

Anyway, I think Bernie has a better chance of having the delegate lead going into the convention this year than he did in 2016.  

As a result of the rule change, there is no longer a chance that Bernie (or other Democratic candidates) can win the popular vote in a primary/caucus state and yet get fewer of its allocated delegates than his/her competitors due to early superdelegate votes.  

Plus, much of Bernie's 2016 campaign platform which was deemed 'radical' by both establishment Democrats and Republicans back then...... has since been incorporated into the Democratic party's platform and (in part or full) his 2020 competitors' campaigns.

But, to answer your question, if Bernie doesn't hit 1,991 delegates but has a clear plurality of delegates when the Democratic convention rolls around, and the superdelegates deny him the nomination.............I think Bernie would have a harder time getting the majority of his base to vote for the Democratic nominee than he did four years ago.  I don't know how hard he could reasonably be expected to try.

[Clang McFly]

The building has four sides and I just happen to get your exact window?

I don't know if it's my exact window, but it is my apartment building. It must be close to my window though since I live on the first floor.

[HairOfTheDog]

Just caught up on this thread.  It's really creepy and uncool to post members' personal information Biggie.   

Whether the location information is accurate or not, it could be problematic for the resident and Mock, even if the member being trolled with it doesn't mind.  

Don't do it, please.

[BigMark]

i got that pic from the albany next door, that black guy was warning the neighborhood about clang.

[Clang McFly]

i got that pic from the albany next door, that black guy was warning the neighborhood about clang.

He wasn't warning people about me. He was advertising for my new nipple rubbing side business. $20 bucks. $30 if you want me to use lubes or oil. $100 for a happy ending.

[HairOfTheDog]

Joe Biden kicked ass in the South Carolina Democratic primary tonight, where there was a very large turn out.



Most of the votes have been counted and Biden has earned nearly 50% of them, followed by Bernie Sanders with nearly 20%.

With 54 delegates, SC is the richest delegate state thus far in the race, making it a very good night for Biden.

Biden will likely end the night only a few delegates behind Bernie going into Super Tuesday next week, and Biden's now surpassed Bernie in terms of cumulative popular votes from Iowa + New Hampshire + Nevada + SC.

[HairOfTheDog]

Tom Steyer spent a lot of time and money in SC and finished third with about 11% of the vote thus far, which isn't enough to win any delegates.  He officially suspended his campaign tonight.

Buttigieg came in 4^th, followed by Elizabeth Warren, then Amy Klobuchar, and lastly Tulsi Gabbard.  

Like Steyer, none of them hit 15% of the popular vote in SC, thus, they didn't earn any delegates.  Unlike Steyer, however, none of them have thrown in the towel yet.

[HairOfTheDog]

Anyway, it looks like all eyes will be on Bernie, Biden and possibly Bloomberg when 13 states with more than ¹⁄₃ of the total delegates hold their primaries on (Super) Tuesday.

Bloomberg will be on the ballot for the first time on Tuesday.

The Super Tuesday (March 3^rd) states:

[MirahM]

So is Warren out of the picture then? : (
I am holding on to my ballot until after Tue.

[Clang McFly]

Tom Steyer spent a lot of time and money in SC and finished third with about 11% of the vote thus far, which isn't enough to win any delegates.  He officially suspended his campaign tonight.

Buttigieg came in 4^th, followed by Elizabeth Warren, then Amy Klobuchar, and lastly Tulsi Gabbard.  

Like Steyer, none of them hit 15% of the popular vote in SC, thus, they didn't earn any delegates.  Unlike Steyer, however, none of them have thrown in the towel yet.

What? No! Tom Steyer is cool. I was so going to vote for him.

https://youtu.be/4lNH4ei8uyc

[Duchess]

Mayor Pete is out. I hope a couple of others will do the same.

[Rootilda]

Why is Tulsi Gabbard still in?

[cannongal]

Mayor Pete is out. I hope a couple of others will do the same.

I was just going to post that the butt guy dropped out.   Damn shame,  too, I had high hopes for him.

[Duchess]

Why is Tulsi Gabbard still in?

I've seen some speculate that she enjoys the role of spoiler. I'm not sure how that could be given she consistently polls very, VERY low.

[Duchess]

I had high hopes for him.

We haven't seen the last of him and it wouldn't surprise me at all to one day see him as president. He's very young, 37/38, he has a future in politics. Him and his team ran an amazing campaign, I hope they all feel proud of themselves.

[cannongal]

I had high hopes for him.

We haven't seen the last of him and it wouldn't surprise me at all to one day see him as president. He's very young, 37/38, he has a future in politics. Him and his team ran an amazing campaign, I hope they all feel proud of themselves.

Meh- I like his youth.  I read an article about him in time magazine.   It talked about his successes and failures/shortcomings as mayor.    I'm sure he'll be just another politician to me by the time he's elected.   If I'm even alive in 20 to 30 years,  that is.

[HairOfTheDog]

So is Warren out of the picture then? : (
I am holding on to my ballot until after Tue.

Warren's still in the race and she might win her home state of Massachusetts on Tuesday.

I hope she does; she's so smart and competent and fights very hard for working people / consumers.  She really deserves a win, in my opinion.

She just hasn't been able to garner enough votes thus far to earn a significant number of delegates.  Buttigieg was far ahead of Warren in earned delegates, and still far enough behind after SC to call it quits. 

Anyway, it's difficult to imagine that Elizabeth Warren will be able to change the current voting trend and overtake her competitors.  But,  it could happen.