Lisa Irwin 10 Mos. missing. MO

[Harvest Moon]

No photo of SB in the media, yet...

However, an interesting bit here. The video shows that John "Jersey" Tanko now has a shaved head. So could he be the bald man seen walking that night? http://fox4kc.com/2011/11/01/womans-cell...stigation/

And this report seems to imply that Deborah's brother was in the house the whole night that Lisa disappeared?? http://www.kspr.com/news/local/kspr-the-...2838.story

I read someplace that her brother was living in the trailer behind the house, but that has not been confirmed.

[Lady Cop]

i am simply not buying all the sideshows to the circus. and that includes 'jersey' who Capt. Young said was not a player. he is merely one of the village idiots.

my faith in eyewitnesses is usually nil.

the brother Phillip Netz obviously may be a key person/witness/player however.


i see the parents are moving back into the home they decamped friday night. i guess the trick-or-treat gig is no longer being paid for.

[Lady Cop]

John Picerno, the new attorney for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, arrives at the home on Walrond to meet with the family.


this guy is known for attacking the police.

yep. criminal defense lawyer needed to search for missing baby.

[blueberryhill]

Harvest Moon, I appreciate your comment re Megan Wright (who probably has nothing to do with this case)but curious to how you found out that Megan Wright referenced in some of our posts was
African American. Posters on abc news website connected pink haired MW with SL and i warned that it could be just gossip. However, when you go to Spokeo, it shows MW lives (or did) with SL.
It lists MW as a caucasian and posters on abc website said SL was African American. Both listed on
Cypress St. I wonder when we pass on information how we can determine fact from fiction. I think
that is why this is so fascinating because you have to discern the truth from all the fiction, gossip, misinformation, etc. I so appreciate all of you (on Mack) for your research, insights, and humor so
thanks for making my life a little more interesting.

[Harvest Moon]

Harvest Moon, I appreciate your comment re Megan Wright (who probably has nothing to do with this case)but curious to how you found out that Megan Wright referenced in some of our posts was
African American. Posters on abc news website connected pink haired MW with SL and i warned that it could be just gossip. However, when you go to Spokeo, it shows MW lives (or did) with SL.
It lists MW as a caucasian and posters on abc website said SL was African American. Both listed on
Cypress St. I wonder when we pass on information how we can determine fact from fiction. I think
that is why this is so fascinating because you have to discern the truth from all the fiction, gossip, misinformation, etc. I so appreciate all of you (on Mack) for your research, insights, and humor so
thanks for making my life a little more interesting.

Hi Blueberry, First off, I never trust the rumors/gossip/comments posted on news reports on the internet.

Since we are talking about somebody who is not involved with this case, I don't want to publish too much information. My investigation included the middle name, which went around about 10 twists and turns until I found a few old online profiles. That information was confirmed by a some people that I know from the area.

[Lady Cop]

and a lot of stuff gets dragged over here from...er...other sites.

[Cheyne]

So now the story changes yet again:

http://www.kspr.com/news/local/kspr-the-...2838.story

RE: Deborah's brother

He was with Bradley October third, the night her baby disappeared and said the mom had drank enough that night to pass out drunk, as she maintains. The family believe a kidnapper snatched the baby from her crib while the dad was working, the uncle was sleeping and the mom was passed out.

So was the brother there that night or not? It sounds like there could have been more than just the neighbor drinking on the front porch that night.

[flcraxr]

Nancy Grace "Breaking NEWS" (again).. will get transcript when it's up.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html

so far:

hubby of Brando interviewed by CNN/HLN reporter (not on air) Mr B. said he had just separated from the neighbor that drank with mom and moved out of his home the night Lisa went missing. This is the house Jeremy went to before he called 911.

Thompson, who saw man with baby at 4:30 am, ID'd a man who is a resident of area, name not released at this time. Id'd man has been questioned by LE and CNN, he denies he is the man Thompson saw. LE says he is not a POI.

50 sec 2:30 am phone call is now being said to have been made between 8pm and 8:30pm.

Call log was deleted when Megan got the phone that was shared by the 8 people living with her, among these was her ex, the handyman, who is in custody for federal charges of burglary now.

Edited to add: CNN asked LE re: brother being at the house later than the shopping trip, LE said that was the first time they had heard that.

Mary Hurt 5 houses down spoke with LE and footprint molds were taken from her neighbor's yard.

[flcraxr]

New timeline in the disappearance of Baby Lisa Irwin, according to a source
Posted: 11/02/2011
Last Updated: 37 minutes ago

Russ Ptacek, nbcactionnews.com

KANSAS CITY, Missouri - A source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, is now detailing the hours that led up to the disappearance of Baby Lisa Irwin.

NBC Action News has confirmed the source has had direct contact with multiple family members, including the parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin.

Events of October 3, 2011, according to source.

2:30 p.m.
-Jeremy Irwin arrives home from work as an electrician, but must return later to work overtime.

4:30 p.m.
-Neighbor checks in on Baby Lisa’s crib and finds her apparently fine.

{SNIP}
Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/ne...z1cbDXc6Cf

[chinchillas2cool]

Harvest Moon, I appreciate your comment re Megan Wright (who probably has nothing to do with this case)but curious to how you found out that Megan Wright referenced in some of our posts was
African American. Posters on abc news website connected pink haired MW with SL and i warned that it could be just gossip. However, when you go to Spokeo, it shows MW lives (or did) with SL.
It lists MW as a caucasian and posters on abc website said SL was African American. Both listed on
Cypress St. I wonder when we pass on information how we can determine fact from fiction. I think
that is why this is so fascinating because you have to discern the truth from all the fiction, gossip, misinformation, etc. I so appreciate all of you (on Mack) for your research, insights, and humor so
thanks for making my life a little more interesting.

Hi Blueberry, First off, I never trust the rumors/gossip/comments posted on news reports on the internet.

Since we are talking about somebody who is not involved with this case, I don't want to publish too much information. My investigation included the middle name, which went around about 10 twists and turns until I found a few old online profiles. That information was confirmed by a some people that I know from the area.

I too am sorry for jumping to conclusions. The pieces seemed right. But I guess we were putting square pegs in round holes. Sorry too Blueberry.

[username]

I so appreciate all of you (on Mack) for your research, insights, and humor so
thanks for making my life a little more interesting.

[lawheeze]

RE: Deborah's brother

He was with Bradley October third, the night her baby disappeared and said the mom had drank enough that night to pass out drunk, as she maintains. The family believe a kidnapper snatched the baby from her crib while the dad was working, the uncle was sleeping and the mom was passed out.

Wow. If this is true, it further diminishes the possibility of the intruder story being true. The passed-out-drunk story was supposed to explain how she didn't hear the intruder. Now her brother was there and he was sleeping? But not passed out drunk as well?

Very interesting.

50 sec 2:30 am phone call is now being said to have been made between 8pm and 8:30pm.

Wow (again). So the call went out while DB was in possession of her phone since the "kidnapping" is supposed to have occurred after 10:30. Yet she says outbound calls were not possible at that time due to non-payment. hmm.

If these new things are true, I think the gig is up for the parents.

John Picerno, the new attorney for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, arrives at the home on Walrond to meet with the family.


this guy is known for attacking the police.

yep. criminal defense lawyer needed to search for missing baby.

Right. One can't make this shit up.

[blueberryhill]

~Oh geez..........I did type mack instead of mock; this browser just skips all over the place. You people are good.

[username]

~Oh geez..........I did type mack instead of mock; this browser just skips all over the place. You people are good.

Gasp. Mock is capitalized!

No worries. You'll probably solve the crime while those of us with ADD bicker about the spelling and grammar and stuff. It's a curse.

[Lady Cop]

just as a minor point of interest re: megan wright and the juggalos...
the FBI has placed the juggalos on their list of criminal gangs.
of course that does not mean all fans of insane clown posse are criminals. but an element is criminal.

[LytoMe]

Events of October 3, 2011, according to source.

2:30 p.m.
-Jeremy Irwin arrives home from work as an electrician, but must return later to work overtime.

4:30 p.m.
-Neighbor checks in on Baby Lisa’s crib and finds her apparently fine

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/ne...z1cbDXc6Cf

SO this NEW timeline...what version is this now of the events of a 10 hour timeline?
WHY the fuck is who checked on the baby, who was in the house, and who called who such HARD questions to answer...and keep straight IF YOUR INNOCENT!!!
I have lost faith in this family , video of the MINOR children on Halloween...??
QUESTION - Does the DB work? Or is this a State funded family??

[flcraxr]

Transcript from Nancy Grace show last night that I paraphrased parts of:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1...ng.01.html

[Lady Cop]

samantha brando continues to hang out with deb.

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

A man who lives next door to the home of baby Lisa Irwin says he has met repeatedly with detectives and passed a polygraph.

CNN interviewed Wednesday the husband of Samantha Brando, who is good friends with Debbie Bradley and spent much of the evening Oct. 3 drinking and smoking cigarettes with Bradley. CNN is not identifying the husband, who declined an on-camera interview.

Reporter Jim Spellman said a spokesman for the Kansas City Police Department confirmed that the neighbor has been cleared of any involvement in the disappearance of baby Lisa. The spokesperson said the department "has moved on from him," according to CNN.

Representatives for the Kansas City Police Department did not immediately respond to requests from KCTV for comment on Thursday.

The then 10-month-old infant was reported missing about 4 a.m. Oct. 4 when Jeremy Irwin arrived home from performing electrical work at a Kansas City Starbucks and discovered his daughter was not in her crib. Irwin and Bradley say that their daughter was kidnapped while she was sleeping.

However, Bradley has said she expects police to arrest her in connection with her daughter's disappearance.

Police focused on Brando's husband because he had moved out of his home just hours before Irwin went missing, CNN reported. The couple had marital problems.

Brando and her husband met with a marriage counselor in the early afternoon on Oct. 3. The counselor suggested that the couple attempt a trial separation and the husband left the home about 5 p.m. Oct. 3, CNN reported. He then went to a friend's home.

[Cracker]

If they killed her and are letting her decompose somwhere, they are evil. If she is truly missing, bless their hearts.

[Lady Cop]

Lisa is lost in all the bullshit and lies, lawyers and cast of characters. lost for a second time. somebody knows where this darling girl is, who vanished one month ago today. somebody has no heart or conscience. may they burn forever.