I know I'm always bitching about this...

[IMaDick]

I think it's funny when Duchess calls you Paco. heheeee

It's the name she gave me in her dreams, I'm pretty sure that I fulfill a very significant and erotic fantasy for her.

[Duchess]

don't have the balls to go back and read

That might not be the dumbest comment you've ever made in here but it ranks in the top 10.

[IMaDick]

don't have the balls to go back and read

That might not be the dumbest comment you've ever made in here but it ranks in the top 10.

At least you knew I was referring to you and every other interjecting over reacting emotionally fragile female on Mock.

[ramseycat]

I think it's funny when Duchess calls you Paco. heheeee

It's the name she gave me in her dreams, I'm pretty sure that I fulfill a very significant and erotic fantasy for her.

THIS is the dumbest comment he has ever made in here.

[Duchess]

Holy shit! I missed THAT one.

You stop talking about my dreams & erotic fantasies right now!

[Duchess]

At least you knew I was referring to you

Why would you say that...because I commented on it? You should know by now that I don't need a post directed at me in order to comment on it. That's entirely irrelevant to me, I say what I want when I want to.

[Cracker]

You didn't answer my question, so let me rephrase. How long - how many years or generations - do you feel is long enough for a race previously enslaved then widely discriminated against to become just as "successful" as their oppressors?

Not sure. Ask a Catholic, Irish person (what's a bad name for them?), redneck, Chinaman, Jap, or Wop. They can tell you. Any West Virginia coal miner could tell you, too.

You are a couple wars behind on your reasoning. If anybody has a right to bitch, it is the Jews. But they don't bitch too much, they just got back to living... The right way.

It takes two generations to get out of generational poverty. That is proven. That is about 20 years in black person years. hahaha

[Cracker]

I wasn't being PC, that was my theory as to why their socioeconomic status is the way it is. Whats your theory, are they just inherently a race of lazy scumbags?

They are lazy because we pay them to be lazy. It is that simple. There is no other reason for them to lay around the hizzy all day and spend rent money on new shoes.

[Middle Finger]

Take for instance the native peoples, anyone who claims that the blacks had it harder than the natives is intellectually dishonest, but yet those people who suffered so miserably at the hands of oppression have taken responsibility for their own future, they have fought and won many battles since the decimation which was brought upon their ancestors, and much of it during the same period of time as the blacks were held as slaves.

Dude, the American Indians are mostly too drunk to complain. Or they're taking money from gambling institutions. Or, if they're lucky, they're drunk and collecting from their casinos.


I wouldn't hold American Indians up as a shining example of success.

ignorant and your stereotyping generalization shows me have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I know what they have actually achieved.

When you're done defending your lame comparison example, you too can answer this:

How long - how many years or generations - do you feel is long enough for a race previously enslaved then widely discriminated against to become just as "successful" as their oppressors?

It's entirely up to those people how long it takes them, they can sit their asses on welfare,and deal drugs and be thugs for generations or they can actually do something of worth and shorten the time which it will take.

Society as a whole cannot speed up or slow down the process it's not our fault if they choose to remain oppressed.

That's a lame non-answer basically since you keep acting like it's been too long. Would you still be saying this one generation after it was illegal for Blacks to get an equal education and at least not be outwardly denied jobs due to skin color? You keep acting like they have no excuse because it has been long enough or something. As if you are surprised by how that lot turned out even given the past. That implies you expected them to be over it by now. If you can't come up with a time frame, or can't say two generations is too long, you should probably stop pretending that they are tardy or unreasonable in having great systemic difficulty and dysfunction. Unless, of course, it just makes you feel better.

[Middle Finger]

You didn't answer my question, so let me rephrase. How long - how many years or generations - do you feel is long enough for a race previously enslaved then widely discriminated against to become just as "successful" as their oppressors?

Not sure.

Well why don't you and a neighborhood made up of people like you, try getting enslaved and oppressed wholesale for a few centuries followed by some severe widespread discrimination and abuse, raised in that culture as a less-than, then denied jobs and access? That way, you can tell us first hand how quick your entire neighborhood snapped out of that silly laziness.

Until then, your "not sure" doesn't reflect your racist zeal and pretending.

Stop pretending you are surprised by how dysfunctional Blacks are in some ways since you are "not sure." Or do you want to still keep pretending you are surprised?

[Cracker]

You didn't answer my question, so let me rephrase. How long - how many years or generations - do you feel is long enough for a race previously enslaved then widely discriminated against to become just as "successful" as their oppressors?

Not sure.

Well why don't you and a neighborhood made up of people like you, try getting enslaved and oppressed wholesale for a few centuries followed by some severe widespread discrimination and abuse, raised in that culture as a less-than, then denied jobs and access? That way, you can tell us first hand how quick your entire neighborhood snapped out of that silly laziness.

Until then, your "not sure" doesn't reflect your racist zeal and pretending.

Stop pretending you are surprised by how dysfunctional Blacks are in some ways since you are "not sure." Or do you want to still keep pretending you are surprised?

I like how you butchered my answer. I very plainly said TWO GENERATIONS. That is how long it takes to not be a piece of shit forever.

I deal in facts. You deal in grade school equality. That is fine for little kids, but when you grow into adulthood you need to include reality in your belief system.

My people did suffer enslavement for years at the hands of a king and his church. They decided that was bullshit and got on a boat and came here. Instead of being forever-nutfuck-victim-separatists, we morphed into hard-working normal people. Black people should try that. It worked for white people.

I have seen Real Housewives of New Jersey, so I'm not sure it would work for you, though.

You make excuses for black people like I make excuses for my Chihuahua when he pees in the house: He's just a dog. They are just slaves.

Yeah, I think the homeys are better off with me. I hope they can do better, you just excuse the behavior that makes them a mostly fucked up culture.

[Cracker]

You didn't answer my question, so let me rephrase. How long - how many years or generations - do you feel is long enough for a race previously enslaved then widely discriminated against to become just as "successful" as their oppressors?

Not sure. Ask a Catholic, Irish person (what's a bad name for them?), redneck, Chinaman, Jap, or Wop. They can tell you. Any West Virginia coal miner could tell you, too.

You are a couple wars behind on your reasoning. If anybody has a right to bitch, it is the Jews. But they don't bitch too much, they just got back to living... The right way.

It takes two generations to get out of generational poverty. That is proven. That is about 20 years in black person years. hahaha

Yes, I wasn't dreaming. Here ^^^^^ is the post.

[Middle Finger]

OK, so let me get this straight. You are surprised that Blacks haven't been able to get as successful as Whites in two generations?

[pspence]

Poverty is much more complicated in today's world. The poles of the rich and poor are getting wider and wider.

[Cracker]

OK, so let me get this straight. You are surprised that Blacks haven't been able to get as successful as Whites in two generations?

Jesus Christ, MF. I either have to assume you are joking or that you really do have the social intelligence of a 4^th grader.

This is a big world. There are lots of countries in the world. Blacks are the OLDEST civilizations. They have been around as modern humans for around 100,000 years. That is about 30,000 generations (because they fuck like monkeys). Hardly two generations, dumbass.

Most American blacks are NOT FROM SLAVE FAMILIES, they are from immigrant stock that came from other black countries that are tens of thousands of years old. Again, not two generations.

American slavery has been gone for a long time, about 150 years. Because blacks reproduce like rats, that is at least 5 generations, probably way more.

It only takes two generations to learn not to live like an animal. There is no excuse for how they behave except for the fact that stupid people who can't do basic math allow them to behave that way so they can feel superior. If you are going to feel sorry for people, feel sorry for white trash. They act that way because they want to even though they have zero excuse for it.

[Cracker]

Poverty is much more complicated in today's world. The poles of the rich and poor are getting wider and wider.

Yes, it is much worse than when there were kings and peasants and slaves and slave owners.

Jesus people, get an education. The world is much older than you are. Think outside your own town sometime.

[Middle Finger]

OK, so let me get this straight. You are surprised that Blacks haven't been able to get as successful as Whites in two generations?

This is a big world. There are lots of countries in the world.

American slavery has been gone for a long time, about 150 years.

It only takes two generations to learn not to live like an animal.

I am talking about Blacks in America and I was not asking about how long until you don't have to live like an animal. I was asking about how long do you think it should take the stereotypical Black and poor community to be as successful as the successful White communities. As I've explained, the wholesale discrimination that took place AFTER slavery up until and (in many areas) well past civil rights legislation is more relevant than you repeating when slavery ended. Stop pretending not to see validity in the points of others.

[Middle Finger]

Poverty is much more complicated in today's world. The poles of the rich and poor are getting wider and wider.

Yes, it is much worse than when there were kings and peasants and slaves and slave owners.

Jesus people, get an education. The world is much older than you are. Think outside your own town sometime.

You should know that when you indicate how old the world is and how long Blacks have been around you are, in a pompous and ignorant fashion, pretending that we aren't talking about modern changes that wipe out or trump past tribal accomplishments and lifestyles. For example, it doesn't matter how old or long Blacks have been around if we are talking about the culture within America that had them enslaved, the discriminated against, and entrenched in widespread abuse and second-class status until recently.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Discrimination did persist in some places in this country well past the civil war and on into the 1960's, in some places, not a foot deep and coast to coast. For the most part in this country they were free to go do whatever they wanted, get a free education, get a job, buy a house..I grew up in Dallas and East Texas, there the "African Americans" had many more advantages than I did (white trash) They got welfare for nothng, drove better cars and dressed better than I did. Yet still acted like niggers in school and on he street and here they are today running around with their pants hanging off their ass, a mop head on their head and 3 gold teef and make out like they are down trodden by whitey that won't give them a job. As with all generalizations this one has exceptions and I know a lot of them. They are not the ones that anyone has a problem with. Same now as always, pos house with 2 cabbillacs in front, one with 22" wheels, looking for the welfare check in the mailbox

[IMaDick]

OK, so let me get this straight. You are surprised that Blacks haven't been able to get as successful as Whites in two generations?

This is a big world. There are lots of countries in the world.

American slavery has been gone for a long time, about 150 years.

It only takes two generations to learn not to live like an animal.

I am talking about Blacks in America and I was not asking about how long until you don't have to live like an animal. I was asking about how long do you think it should take the stereotypical Black and poor community to be as successful as the successful White communities. As I've explained, the wholesale discrimination that took place AFTER slavery up until and (in many areas) well past civil rights legislation is more relevant than you repeating when slavery ended. Stop pretending not to see validity in the points of others.

you are still trying to avoid the fact that not all whites are successful in this country.

Those who work for it are, those who don't work for aren't.

seems equal to me.