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(12-11-2015, 01:02 AM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]Didn't Gore invent Global Warming too? Pretty talented guy

Not as good as when Newton invented gravity. Before that we were flying all over the place.

Gravity, not just a good idea, its the Law

They and a bunch of others will just never get it will they.

President Barack Obama's spokesman Josh Earnest said on Thursday that the White House is flabbergasted by the record number of Americans seeking to buy guns in recent weeks.


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I think the train left without the driver.

(12-21-2015, 03:16 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

Is there anything special about a Mossberg shotgun? I'm curious simply because I saw it was seized as evidence in a case some of us are watching in here.

Not really.

(12-21-2015, 03:16 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

Is there anything special about a Mossberg shotgun? I'm curious simply because I saw it was seized as evidence in a case some of us are watching in here.

No, they are just a manufacturer of firearms. They do make a pretty dependable inexpensive line of home defence shotguns and bird busters.
I have a Mossberg 500, its a 12 gauge pump with a short barrel and pistol grip

(12-21-2015, 06:24 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-21-2015, 03:16 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

Is there anything special about a Mossberg shotgun? I'm curious simply because I saw it was seized as evidence in a case some of us are watching in here.

No, they are just a manufacturer of firearms. They do make a pretty dependable inexpensive line of home defence shotguns and bird busters.
I have a Mossberg 500, its a 12 gauge pump with a short barrel and pistol grip

That's my fave.

(10-31-2015, 07:17 PM)F.U. Wrote: [ -> ]As I was working on a shotgun at work today I thought about making this post [now this place is even in my head at work Geez, lol]. I was thinking about the psychological effects on people when it comes to different looks of the same gun. So I thought I would throw my thought out there for discussion.
What I did was take a hunting shotgun and turn it into a home defense shotgun. As I was doing so I thought about how some peoples opinion of the gun would change just because of a few hundred dollars worth of accessories. I am not saying they are wrong, I am just saying that I can see how my adjustments would alter their opinions. I even had a friend comment on the gun as I was working on it. Saying , Oh, you building a assault shotgun? I corrected him by saying No, I am building a short barreled, adjustable stock, vertical forward grip, side saddle shell holder, with heatshield, shotgun. Anyway , again, just throwing this out here for discussion.



This is what I started with [stock photo]






And this was about $300 and 30 minutes later,

Duch, these are 2 examples of Mossberg 500 shotguns.

(12-21-2015, 07:22 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

I do believe a felon was found to have one of those in his home.

That will cost him. A Brother of mine got caught with one of my Mossberg 500's about 10 years ago. He did 3 years fed time because he was a felon in position. Fed time sucks because its almost day for day. Very little good time given out there.

Its the same gun. One looks meaner, thus the fear. Same as a suicide knob.

Responsible Gun Owners? and Gun Safety Education?

There are several stories of firearms instructors and police officers accidentally shooting themselves or others (or their children shooting themselves or others) posted upthread. I've read two more such ironic stories just this week.


^ Phillip Rushing of Modesto, California is a firearms instructor and martial arts expert. He was teaching a class in gun safety and self protection last week.

Well, during a demonstration on how to use one's gun to fend off a knife-wielder, Rushing shot and seriously wounded Pastor Tom Smith. Luckily, Smith survived after surgery and is recovering. http://www.modbee.com/news/article49744900.html


^ Josmel Herrera of Miami, Florida was not so fortunate. The gun enthusiast was demonstrating how to safely clean a gun to a relative by video call.

In the process, Herrera accidentally shot himself in the chest and died later in the hospital. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/josm..._ref=crime

No doubt there are some darwin award contestants in that bunch. I am pretty sure ALL gun "accidents" are committed by idiots that do something Stupid. I think they should be called "Stupids" instead of accidents. I can't speak for anyone else but If I had been using a rubber gun for demos during a class, same as this guy blah, blah...I might be the weird one here, but when I reach for a tool, weapon, whatever...I expect a particular tactile feel when I touch it whether I am looking at it or not. The slightest thing that is off about that contact sets off an alarm in my head and I stop and deal with it. I can also just Not see ever a time or place that I would "forget" that I had just swapped weapons...WTF? This guy is a dumbass.
The other guy, I would Love to see the webcam footage..It is quite clear that he violated rule #1 and pointed the thing at himself for what the fuck ever reason. I handle a couple of my guns every fucking day and I just cannot see this being me.
There is no denying the fact that there will be some idiots slipping into the ranks of us "Responsible, Trained" gun owners, I don't have a solution for that. All I can do is my best to make sure that me and mine do it correctly.

Some people are dumb, but firearms are more dangerous for dumb people than say, scissors. It's relevant to recognize the risk.

To me though, it's not gun accidents you have to worry about. Most firearm deaths per year are intentional. You're way more likely to die in a car accident than a gun accident. Less vehicle deaths per year are intentional. But hey, Cars don't kill people (or does he?).

(12-24-2015, 04:50 AM)Cutz Wrote: [ -> ]Some people are dumb, but firearms are more dangerous for dumb people than say, scissors. It's relevant to recognize the risk.

To me though, it's not gun accidents you have to worry about. Most firearm deaths per year are intentional. You're way more likely to die in a car accident than a gun accident. Less vehicle deaths per year are intentional. But hey, Cars don't kill people (or does he?).

BUT GUNS ARE MADE FOR KILLING!!! Omaigawdz how many times will we have this discussion!!!1111

For me, vehicle safety and gun safety aren't in competition, regardless as to whether one views guns as fatal weapons or tools.

Guns and vehicles aren't contextually related, and I have the capacity to be concerned/interested about more than one type of public safety at a time instead of trying to stuff them into the same bag.

Anyway, I read about 3 teens dying during a drivers ed class in New York earlier this year, very sad. The instructor wasn't driving the car and a truck driver side swiped the drivers ed vehicle and caused the accident. But, I'd find it ironic and worthy of a separate discussion if I started reading story after story about drivers ed teachers causing vehicular injury/death to themselves and their students too.

(12-24-2015, 04:50 AM)Cutz Wrote: [ -> ]But hey, Cars don't kill people (or does he?).

Cars don't kill people.

But, Cars would murder a snake first effin' chance he got.

That would be no sweat off hiss ass, I'm sure of it.

President Obama will be hosting a town hall meeting in Virginia on Thursday.

He will be addressing guns in America as he pushes to get gun safety and control measures enacted before the end of his presidency.

Thursday is the 5^th anniversary of the Arizona shooting in which Gabby Giffords was shot.

CNN will be televising the meeting at 8 pm ET.

Anyone with common sense, knows our gun culture is out of control and even the state of Texas writes "we haven't had open carry since 1871," or words to that effect.....well we should get rid of those dangerous vehicles, too and revert to tying our ponies in front of the friendly neighborhood salon......No more drunk driving fatalities, only deaths by gunfire.....See, we are making progress....

To own and drive a vehicle in the U.S., you must first register it, then to drive it, you have to take a test......if you violate any of the "rules," you sometimes have to give up that right to drive that vehicle, and finally, you have to maintain insurance on that vehicle just in case it kills, maims, a person or property.....Well maybe those of you who compare guns to vehicles as a weapon are on to something.. I concur that a gun should be registered and to use it, I should have to pass a shooting test, and if I use that gun in an irresponsible way, that gun will taken from me, and if my gun maims or kills someone, I pay all damages through my gun insurance......all I am asking is for a more in depth background check for those gun owners to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't own guns. I shouldn't have to list those types here, cuz you are all very smart here on Mock.....We have more requirements to obtain pain medications for bona fide pain than we do to purchase a gun....I have to hand carry my prescription to Pharmacy but no problem getting a gun, just a local call.....or a drive to my local gun dealer.....

Guns have one purpose, i.e, to kill......and although vehicles do kill, that is not the main function of said machines. They were designed to get us from point A to point B....but continue to compare them as I know you will......till the cows come home...

I think common sense has left this country and those of you who fear the Government will confiscate your precious guns, seriously need to be taking meds for paranoia.

Most responsible gun owners (in my family) support tighter gun controls and to hear the tired old arguments of "it won't stop mass killings, the bad guys will still get their weapons, etc. (the list goes on) is a cop out...

If tighter legislation and better enforcement saves one child, then it is worth it. Enough of comparing vehicles to guns, and all of the other useless, outdated excuses gun nuts make to defend their rights to carry automatic weapons and magazines, bullets, etc to kill every one in their hometown....Do some research and find out just how many lives are saved in a given year because someone in the crowd had a weapon......this is rare.....but does happen occasionally. There are more innocents killed in a given year because of irresponsible gun owners, mentally ill people, bad guys, burglars/robbers, etc.....Sure, some of them will find a gun, but we need to make it tougher to get that gun....Why allow them to push the "easy" button.

I also disagree with you who say this will never change. The power of grass roots groups, paper wars and voting out the old coots and replacing with people who still retain some common sense, will go a long way in improving our "violent" culture. Keep signing those petitions for a more sensible legislative body and get out and vote....in Nov....

For the rest of you, run, hide, "they" are coming for your guns.....