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Her FB page is entitled "Jamie Gilt For Gun Sense". Ain't that rich. hah
(03-09-2016, 04:09 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: [ -> ]There goes the theory that all gun zealots train their kids in gun safety.

Mom shoulda bought the kid the candy bar, he wanted, at the checkout stand.

If he was 7, it would have been a head shot for denying him candy.
(03-09-2016, 05:17 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-09-2016, 04:09 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: [ -> ]There goes the theory that all gun zealots train their kids in gun safety.

Mom shoulda bought the kid the candy bar, he wanted, at the checkout stand.

If he was 7, it would have been a head shot for denying him candy.
The kid is 4 years old and squeezed off a torso shot from a .45. Granted it was close range but a .45 packs a powerful kick. I'm impressed.


I read that she posted earlier today that her 4 yr. old gets jacked up when he knows she's taking him to target practice. hah Could that be for real?
Hell yes!

They're quick little fuckers.

Takes skill to hit them on the run.
I Still do not see how in the hell you do not know where your weapon is at all times, WTF?
You can shoot people how to shoot a gun, but you can't teach children when not to shoot a gun. (said in Joey voice from friends).
Penetration.
(03-09-2016, 08:06 PM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]I Still do not see how in the hell you do not know where your weapon is at all times, WTF?

If my wallet was gone I would not be as concerned as a missing gun. A person knows where it is at all times. At least a responsible person.
It's a dangerous tool, if you often carry it must be a pain in the ass to go about your normal life and keep it secure and it's obviously important enough to responsible gun owners to accept the hassle and feel safe.
Would you leave a primed chainsaw next to your bored nine year old?
(03-09-2016, 04:09 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: [ -> ]There goes the theory that all gun zealots train their kids in gun safety.

That theory flew out the window a long time ago. Even if the little ones are trained (as much as they can be) and reminded all the time not to touch the guns, their brains aren't developed enough to hold that responsibility.

I'm still waiting for the legal outcome to the below story I posted back in November 2014, post #1283.

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This little cutie is 3-year-old Michael Holzworth. His dad, Jon Holzworth, loves his arsenal of guns; even touts them on his bumper stickers. When his wife was fighting for custody of the kids a year ago, court docs show she was afraid to leave the kids alone with him for any length of time because of the guns (they've since reconciled). Jon's response: "My (gun) hobby is no more dangerous than if I were to collect stamps," he wrote. What a crock of shit.

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^ Michael was shot in the mouth/face at his home by a 4-year-old neighbor 3 days ago when the neighbor got a hold of Michael's dad's gun. Michael's mom was at a funeral and his dad was supposed to be watching the boys.

Miraculously, Michael survived -- he is getting set for reconstructive nasal and plastic surgery this week. I hope Michael and the neighbor boy get through the trauma alright and I hope Jon Holzworth is held responsible legally for his negligent idiocy.

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I was glad to read that ^ Jon Holzworth was ultimately charged with reckless endangerment last year, accused of leaving his gun within reach of his son.

Jon Holzwarth was not held in jail. He pleaded not guilty. He can not visit his son without supervision. He could face up to a year behind bars and $5,000 in fines if he’s convicted.

(Michael continues to recover and will require surgeries and therapy for the rest of his life. Holzwarth's wife filed for separation shortly after the shooting.)
(03-10-2016, 11:33 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]Jon's response: "My (gun) hobby is no more dangerous than if I were to collect stamps," he wrote.


They all have their own variation of that response. Every last one of them.

I'm still laughing about the twat from yesterday. Apparently she is one of those who can dish it out but can't take it as her FB page is now gone. HaHaFuckinHa. Stupid cow.
(03-10-2016, 02:51 AM)BigMark Wrote: [ -> ]Would you leave a primed chainsaw next to your bored nine year old?


Just tell 'em not to touch it, right?
(03-10-2016, 11:41 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-10-2016, 11:33 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]Jon's response: "My (gun) hobby is no more dangerous than if I were to collect stamps," he wrote.
They all have their own variation of that response. Every last one of them.

I'm still laughing about the twat from yesterday. Apparently she is one of those who can dish it out but can't take it as her FB page is now gone. HaHaFuckinHa. Stupid cow.

Yeah, similar asinine bullshit spewed by negligent parents who are too ignorant or lazy to put locks on their guns or lock them up; parents who put their guns before the safety of their children.

At least some of those parents are being charged and prosecuted under existing negligence laws now, even if there aren't laws requiring safe storage in their states. It's negligence to leave loaded guns in reach of small children, no doubt about it.

Anyway, I read this morning that the dipshit mom who got shot by her 4-year-old yesterday will be questioned in the hospital shortly and may be charged. Good.

I very much hope she's charged. She would face a year in jail and a fine, just like Jon Holzworth. If she's an otherwise good mother, I'd think it reasonable to consider she be prosecuted and given a probation plea deal which requires her to forfeit her guns and take parenting classes or something like that. She should not get off scot free, in my opinion.

So, I hope the current prosecutor doesn't have the mindset of the former prosecutor. This is what the former prosecutor had to say: You have to put great weight on the fact that the person who is criminally liable is the one who was shot. I’d be very reluctant to prosecute in this situation,' said former Jacksonville state attorney Harry Shorstein. Shorstein is definitely no Einstein. Ref: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z42WcsfLBg
(03-10-2016, 02:20 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]This is what the former prosecutor had to say: You have to put great weight on the fact that the person who is criminally liable is the one who was shot. I’d be very reluctant to prosecute in this situation,' said former Jacksonville state attorney Harry Shorstein.


Smiley_emoticons_skeptisch I'd sure like to know his reasoning behind that stupid comment. What the hell! Who gives a shit, her negligence caused this. Not only wasn't her gun secured, neither was her kid. Many won't share this opinion but I think if she were a homely, poor nigger her junky ass would have already been charged with something.

I read many of the comments left on her page yesterday. People were rippin' her to shreds and a great deal of them were up front about being gun owners. They blame her and others like her for all the anti gun bs going on these days.
^ His reasoning is that dipshit mom "has already suffered enough".

It's the same reasoning used by hundreds of prosecutors across the country not to charge negligent parents who leave loaded guns in reach of little ones, and then are shocked and devastated when their kid shoots/kills himself or someone else.

It used to be that most such parents weren't prosecuted because of that type of enabling rationale, but it appears to me the tide is changing (based on the more recent child shooter stories I've read).


Already suffered enough is as disgusting to me as calling these type of incidents "accidents".
I want to see what happens as these kids grow up.


That woman's mother is offended that her daughter is being treated so badly on social media. She said she's not a criminal, she's a victim of a freak accident.

I fricken hate it when this type of thing is termed an accident. It's not an accident. Jesus.