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(06-18-2013, 08:59 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks, Six.

I still haven't read what I consider a valid reason for opposing the bill on universal background checks by those who claimed to support the concept before the legislation was drafted. Separate issue from enforcement of current laws (which were as they are now when the alleged support for UBC was expressed).

I only see fear and personal inconvenience cited as reasons for backing off of the support, just worded in different ways repeatedly. I think the backing off would have occurred no matter what the bill included or excluded because by the time the bill was drafted, it was pretty clear that the fear that some bans might get passed was an unnecessary fear. And, so, there was no longer a need for the pro-gun advocates to continue feigning support of something for the sake of society as a compromise position; it was instead time for excuses to back peddle.

Imo, it comes down to any new law or change that makes sense and would benefit society getting a shallow verbal commitment of consideration from the NRA and pro-gun advocates, as a "show" that there's a willingness to reason. However, the same re-worked excuses will be used to oppose it when it comes down to putting their money where their collective mouth is.

Why? IMO, because the pro-gun side considers anything that's proposed or supported by the middle or the left, even if it's the right thing and the best thing for the collective of individuals known as society, as a "loss" and that's just not acceptable and scary to the gun enthusiasts. It's unreasonable group-think at an extreme level, and very discouraging.

We're not gonna agree on the reasonableness or lack thereof on full display by the NRA and pro-gun advocates; I've been paying too much attention.

But, I really do appreciate reading the view points shared by you and others here and have learned a lot from the gun enthusiasts among us.

(06-18-2013, 09:19 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]I bet criminals will skip that town and go to the next one though.

(06-18-2013, 09:19 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]I think what HOTD is trying to say in the nicest and most diplomatic way possible is that you gun nuts are a bunch of stubborn, unreasonable, selfish motherfuckers.

(06-18-2013, 09:13 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]Then I hate to say this but you are deluded and 100% incorrect.

Vigilante - noun - one who takes the law or advocates taking the law into their own hands.

By refusing to call the police and all arming themselves they are taking the law into their own hands ergo vigilantism.

There really is no way of getting around that.

(06-18-2013, 09:19 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]I bet criminals will skip that town and go to the next one though.

(06-18-2013, 09:33 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]I don't sanction vigilantism.

(06-18-2013, 09:43 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]Erm yes you do.

(06-18-2013, 09:43 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: [ -> ]Skipping through that town wouldn't be wise for anyone.

I'd drive through it, real fast, sunk low behind the wheel, doors locked.

There's reasonably protecting yourself and your property and there's full-on public bravado that screams, "simpletons!".

The townsfolk with them thar catchy slogans, signs and purdy pictures of guns ain't in the former category. But, hey, they made the news. That may well just have been the point. Maybe they're not so simple after all.

(06-18-2013, 09:32 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, of old age.

(06-18-2013, 08:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2013, 08:32 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]Vigilantism

I don't see it that way. I see it as a community being proactive. They are depending on themselves to protect themselves, their families and their property. I applaud them.

(06-18-2013, 10:41 AM)Midwest Spy Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2013, 08:40 AM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-18-2013, 08:32 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: [ -> ]Vigilantism

I don't see it that way. I see it as a community being proactive. They are depending on themselves to protect themselves, their families and their property. I applaud them.

Isn't this exactly what GZ was attempting to do?

(06-18-2013, 10:18 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]Its like putting a sign on your front lawn saying pro-gun.

(06-18-2013, 10:41 AM)Midwest Spy Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't this exactly what GZ was attempting to do?

(06-18-2013, 10:43 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]No, he went looking for trouble.....That town is just saying they will shoot your ass if you break into their home.

(06-18-2013, 11:37 AM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ] If its not extreme Left or extreme Right its not newsworthy.