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You can open carry in my state and a bunch of people do. Concealed is a non-issue most anywhere for a person with a license too. But there are places I would not carry. A school is not one of them, but if they request you not to you should be courteous and respect their wishes or turn around and leave.

Many people are afraid of guns and you have to respect that issue also.

(04-24-2014, 04:19 PM)Duchess Wrote: [ -> ]

I wouldn't have a problem with that bill if the people who carried were all like our Members who do but we know they are not. I feel like the majority of them are just like that twat George Zimmerman.

Well then hopefully you have a law abiding one there when he gets road rage.

Bringing guns into a bar is just asking for trouble.

Carrying in a bar in not legal, it is legal to carry in a restaurant and there area a bunch of laws that define what that is.
Duchess your right, that was a fucktard move to be carrying long arms into those places, it was attention whoreing and it didn't do anything except enflame folks.
I don't think "Most" of the CCW folks out there are like GZ, but there are enough to cause concern, even to me.
Had I been in a chilis and some ass clown brought his long arm in "To Exercise His Rights" I probably would not have left, I may have changed seats and would definitely have adjusted my piece to make sure its easy to get to. I may have even called the police just to make sure they are on top of things . I think business owners Still can and Should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. That said, I would carry (concealed just like the law says) anywhere I go including chilis.

(05-31-2014, 07:48 AM)SIXFOOTERsez Wrote: [ -> ]Carrying in a bar in not legal, it is legal to carry in a restaurant and there area a bunch of laws that define what that is.
Duchess your right, that was a fucktard move to be carrying long arms into those places, it was attention whoreing and it didn't do anything except enflame folks.
I don't think "Most" of the CCW folks out there are like GZ, but there are enough to cause concern, even to me.
Had I been in a chilis and some ass clown brought his long arm in "To Exercise His Rights" I probably would not have left, I may have changed seats and would definitely have adjusted my piece to make sure its easy to get to. I may have even called the police just to make sure they are on top of things . I think business owners Still can and Should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. That said, I would carry (concealed just like the law says) anywhere I go including chilis.

Many establishments currently have signs: No shirt, no shoes, no service. Sign certainly could be revised to include "carrying rifles", no service.

I've stopped posting these stories of toddlers being accidentally shot to death -- sometimes it's just too damned depressing. Other times, it makes me really mad that something so avoidable continues to happen hundreds of times a year -- today is one of those days. So, here are the latest unforgivable incidents.

Yesterday in Ohio:

A man fatally shot his 2-year-old son in the head when he fired into the window of a home during a dispute with the child's mother, Cleveland police said.



Police said the boy, identified as Derrice Alexander (RIP) ^, was standing on a landing when he was struck early Tuesday.

The toddler was rushed to Lutheran Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

The little boy's mother was apparently unhurt. The couple also has a 1-year-old child who was not home at the time, WOIO reported.

Police said the father threw the gun into a nearby garbage can and then fled in a car. He was taken into custody later but not immediately charged.

Police Chief Calvin Williams said the man is a convicted felon and should not have had a weapon. He declined to give details about that criminal record but WOIO said the man had faced assault and domestic violence charges in the past.

This asshole needs to be convicted of an aggravated charge and locked away for life, IMO.
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Week before last in Arizona:

An 18-month-old Arizona boy was killed on Tuesday after his 3-year-old brother accidentally shot him with a gun they found while visiting a family friend.

Authorities said the shooting happened around noon while the two children and their mother were visiting the friend, an unidentified 78-year-old man. The children, their mother and the man all lived in the same apartment complex in Payson, about 90 miles away from Phoenix.

The older boy shot his younger sibling with a semi-automatic handgun he found in the apartment after they “slipped into another room unobserved by the mother.”

The childrens’ mother reportedly entered the room as the gun went off, hitting the younger boy in the head. The victim was pronounced dead at a local hospital.

Reportedly (but not confirmed by police), there were several unsecured loaded weapons in the man's house. Too bad the mother didn't check the environment before letting her little ones run around unsupervised. Neglect? IDK -- so far no charges have been filed.

Yes its neglect
Why would you just let your kids run wild in someone els' house?
Did she know there were guns in the house?
The owner presumably knew, why didn't he secure them when he Knew there to be kids in the house?
Just fucking stupid

Its these kind of inconsiderate bastards that make headlines and turns dummies into gun shy blathering idiots.

(06-11-2014, 04:43 PM)Maggot Wrote: [ -> ]Its these kind of inconsiderate bastards that make headlines and turns dummies into gun shy blathering idiots.

I disagree, Mr. Mags.

That may be true in some cases, but I don't think it holds true in general.

Most of the anti-gun extremists (some dummies, some not, IMO) focus more on intentional rather than accidental gun deaths -- by a long shot, based on my readings.

Though I don't consider myself an extremists, don't fuck with my right to defend and protect myself or my family. I am a responsible weapon owner and have the expectation of others to do likewise.

I regularly carry concealed and have and continue to be educated and proficient with any weapon in my possession. I ensure that my family, including my children, are also educated. I take responsibility to make sure that all weapons are secure within my own home. However, keep in mind that I do not see the ability for me to defend or protect my family when I need to find a key to unlock my means of protection. If a lock is necessary to protect myself or my family, I have no business being in possession of that weapon.

On the occasion that I have company over to my house, I can assure you they will not be allowed to wander unattended; and that is not just due to my right and choice to own a weapon (s).

As for my soapbox on responsible parenthood, which could be a thread all its own, why the Fuck are children out of the line of sight in ANY environment that you are not personally intimate with? Where do people get off thinking that it is acceptable for their kids to be disrespectful of others' privacy, property, or personal space in public or not.

Tragedy happens... because people choose to act irresponsibly. Actually choosing to be disrespectful on some level.

MISSOURI TRAINING TEACHERS FOR CONCEALED CARRY IN THE CLASSROOM



School districts in Missouri have started sending staffers to firearms training so they can become an effective first line of defense in the case of a school shooting.

For a $17,500 fee, districts that opt in to the 40-hour program receive training for two staffers from current law enforcement officers through the Shield Solutions training school. Teachers are required to spend five hours in a classroom and 35 hours on the range with the required firearm, a Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol.

Ten Missouri school districts have taken the training so far and three more have signed contracts.

Warsaw School District officials said they felt pressured to take action after Adam Lanza, 20, killed 26 people, including 20 young children, at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012. “That was the catalyst for us,” said Tim Thomas, the district’s director of instruction and facilities. “We knew we had to do something.”

Only school district administrators and local law enforcement will know which teachers are carrying a weapon on campus.

In an effort to avoid harming the wrong students, teachers will also be armed with a special type of bullet designed to lodge inside the first body it makes contact with.

Young school children will also be prohibited from hugging their teachers if they are carrying concealed weapons in order to avoid detection of the firearm.

“Kids in elementary age like to hug their teachers, but students cannot put their hands on you,” said Dan Crowley, training supervisor for Shield Solutions. “They can knuckle bump, they can shake hands, but hugs are no longer appropriate.”

G.A. Buie, principal of Eudora High School in Kansas and president-elect of the National Association of Secondary School Principals, opposes arming teachers.

“We would be asking school officials, trained as educators, to make a quick transition from teacher to SWAT member, arrive on the scene, assess the situation, overcome the severe nervousness that naturally accompanies a deadly force incident and take immediate action before blood is shed,” he told the Star on Sunday. “It’s a bit more than you can cover in a typical teacher in-service.”

Sources:
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article595097.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...z35ZNbX9Mv
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/23...22708.html

True, some sad shit that this has to be an issue, but there it is. I would sure rather know that any teacher carrying in the school no shit knows what they are doing. Most states requirements for CCC are woefully short of a real education on the subject. Here in Fl the class focusses entirely on the law, range and handling time is not required.
Some gun training offer actual training, but nowhere near all of them.
I think it should be required that in order to get a CCC you should have a minimum of 8 hrs hands on training. I got my Expert ribbon in one day in the military, but that was a long day of pretty intense training.

GUN SAFETY / DILDO AD GETS PEOPLE TALKING

Over 100 children have been killed since Newtown in accidental shooting deaths.

Evolve is a gun safety advocacy group -- they don't push for legislation, but instead for responsible gun ownership.

This is the most talked about ad during gun safety month -- over 900,000 hits in two days.



I like the message and think it's important. If it takes invoking sex and humor to get people focused on it, that's alright. IMO.

The ad is being hailed as "brilliant" and "hilarious" by analysts and talking heads. I don't personally consider it either of those things, but if it raises awareness and prompts adults to be responsible with guns in their own homes, and to make sure the same is true of the adults in homes that their children visit, that's all that matters.

Lately I've been wanting to get a pistol and a carry permit.

It isn't hard at all. Do yourself a favor and go get some range time with an instructor, shoot as many different weapons as you can.
Take the class and get your carry After the training and after you have made the decision to kill.
Otherwise your buying an expensive rock